http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/195889-sens-paul-mccain-clash-over-terrorist-detainee-amendment-?page=1#comments

This shit is just getting scarier and scarier. What was Department of Homeland Security's definition of terrorists and extremist groups again? Right wing parties, people who have guns, etc.

oh nooo there's a censor now =O(

How "funny"

The extreme left wants to lock all the potentially dangerous weapons away
The extreme right wants to lock all the potentially dangerous people away

D.C. is such a black hole.

^ Why's the hole gotta be black?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,380143,00.html

 

^ Why's the hole gotta be black?


 

  thanks for the laugh today.

Wow I see this as a huge gray area for the government to do as they please.

I wonder how Ruby Ridge and Waco would play out under these new rules. Instead of a big, staged attack, just send in a couple snipers?

How "funny"

The extreme left wants to lock all the potentially dangerous weapons away
The extreme right left(McCain) wants to lock all the potentially dangerous people away

D.C. is such a black hole.

Fixed it for you.

I think that old Victor Charles beat McCain so badly they turned him into a communist.  The guy's the very definition of a RINO, and his war record be damned.  Congrats, John, you got a plane shot out from under you, then failed to escape and evade capture.  Once you got home, you ditched the formerly smokin-hot wife who faithfully awaited your return for five or six years, because she had been involved in an auto accident fairly shortly before your sorry ass got out of your cage and wasn't hot any more.  You're a dirt bag, turncoat, pussy, John, and it's a sad state of affairs that we ever nominated your geriatric candy ass to be President. 

Not really a fan of the "distinguished" "gentleman" from Arizona.  (Gentleman and distinguished used very, very loosely)

I honestly don't give a flying tit ass **** **** cock motherfucker bitch which side he's on or representing or pretending to represent.

*sorry was testing the censorship mode lol*

I don't know if you guys have seen this vid.  A different view of Left & Right.

Thanks for posting that, Jay.

Great video, Jaydawg.  Does anybody else feel like they're watching the fall of Rome every time they watch the news or read a paper?  I sure do.

Im kinda over watching Hawaii news. You can watch the 5,6 and 10 o clock news and they all show the same thing. They don't even discuss world news or us news. I usually just watch one local news station then watch world news as well to learn whats going on in the world. But yea, it does seem to be falling apart.

Wow thanks for posting that. I might use that.

"... and the the Republic for which is stands..."

Right in front of our noses the whole time, yet we're still taught that we have a democracy.

We DO have a democratic republic, though. Democracy is how we elect our representatives. At the local level many things are decided more or less democratically. In this case it is a method of decision making more than it is a style of government. What the video doesn't neatly account for is that the laws of a republic don't write themselves. Were it not for the democratic elections we would have yet another oligarchy.

Very useful way of looking at Left and Right. Much better than the common one. Thanks.

I found this a while back: Political Compass Does a good job clarifying why the left and right are known as they are, but adds more dimensions. Specifically, they are conservative/liberal and libertarian/totalitarian. Check it out, you can take the quiz and figure out precisely what your political bent is, and even compare it to notable world leaders.

Interesting. I knew I leaned right, but I didn't expect to be as far as I turned out. I'm not as surprised that I didn't skew even lower toward anarchy. I describe myself as a libertarian who supports motorcycle helmet laws.

Upon further reading, I'm going to have to retract my commentary above. Left/Right in this graph doesn't mean at all what we think of as Left/Right, liberal/conservative in this country.

It's an informative site, and frankly, a much more useful and nuanced way to think about political beliefs than the mish-mashed l/r l/c spectrum we're used to.

Thanks for the link, Cougar. 

To continue arguing in terms of left and right is foolish. It's the way our corporate oligarchy keeps us divided so we are easier to control. You're falling for an advertising campaign.

^^^

That about sums it up. The oligarchy comes in the form of corporate influences in D.C. It is still a representative republic but the question is... WHO is being represented?

The political compass site is fun. I found out that I share political turf with the Dalai Lama and Ghandi. (1/2 left, 2/3 libertarian) I'm a little surprised at how far left I am but when it comes to economic policy (which is what this site is basing its left / right scale on) it makes sense.