http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/06/15/student-used-pepper-spray-take-down-seattle-campus-shooter/85958970/

Video released!

Jon Meis 22 year old student who subdued shotgun wielding gunman at Seattle Pacific University in 2014 with pepper spray and bare feet!

Aaron Ybarra killed 1 and injured several more before jon meis took him down with pepper spray and barefeet. He even un-knifed him after he wrestled the shotgun away!

It is possible to stop an active shooter! 

This made me think: how hard could it have been to tackle the Orlando shooter from behind with 2 guys and prevent further death and injury?

They say "run hide fight" when presented with active shooter situation

 but would it be better to "run fight hide"?
Or "fight run hide"?
Or "hide fight run"?

Your thoughts?

My opinion is, with enough sampling, anything is possible.

But the smart money is on armed citizens, if you're talking odds.

I just hope many 2a members and anybody on general are inspired by this and realize that protecting yourself is 100% possible and that you can save lives before the cops show up, before the cops are even called.

This guy Jon Meis is a real hero. He risked his life. He utilized an opportunity to stop a murderer. 

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This made me think: how hard could it have been to tackle the Orlando shooter from behind with 2 guys and prevent further death and injury?

I was thinking the same thing.  I read where he told people he either had bombs or maybe was wearing one.  I was thinking that that may have prevented some from trying to subdue him. 

Then, in hostage situations, I thought the old was of handling the situation was to comply with the terrorist/hostage taker's demands.  That's kind of what "helped" the 9/11 attackers succeed, at least for the first three planes.  Where flight crews were trained to go along with the hijackers, get their demands, etc.  I was thinking maybe that kind of "if we comply, it will be over" thinking prevented some from taking action.  I'm not saying that's what happened, just my thoughts.

I was thinking the same thing.  I read where he told people he either had bombs or maybe was wearing one.  I was thinking that that may have prevented some from trying to subdue him. 

Then, in hostage situations, I thought the old was of handling the situation was to comply with the terrorist/hostage taker's demands.  That's kind of what "helped" the 9/11 attackers succeed, at least for the first three planes.  Where flight crews were trained to go along with the hijackers, get their demands, etc.  I was thinking maybe that kind of "if we comply, it will be over" thinking prevented some from taking action.  I'm not saying that's what happened, just my thoughts.

Point taken, its difficult to subdue a suicidal maniac without sacraficing ones own life if say he did have a bomb on him.
I would hope though that at least someone threw a chair at him...
Of course its easy to say i would try to stop him having not being there... but honestly who knows what i would have done amidst the chaos when he first opened fire. 

But if i was in range and had an opportunity i would have tried

Point taken, its difficult to subdue a suicidal maniac without sacraficing ones own life if say he did have a bomb on him.
I would hope though that at least someone threw a chair at him...
Of course its easy to say i would try to stop him having not being there... but honestly who knows what i would have done amidst the chaos when he first opened fire. 

But if i was in range and had an opportunity i would have tried

Yeah, who knows how one would react in such a situation.  Easy to say that one would do something in that situation.  Some may very well go after the guy.  Some may get frozen with fear.  I do think that it would be reasonable to assume that a group of people could have subdued him, but who knows what really happened.  We only get reports and who knows what information those reports are based on and how they may be spun by those providing the report. 

I also hope that someone tried to resist.  Chair, bottle, whatever.   

I do think that stories like that of Jon Meis is that you can't depend on someone to defend/protect your life.  Like you mentioned, there's hope that sharing of the story inspires others to take action.  That if more people had that mindset, maybe a group of people (or at least one) can take action and prevent incidents from having a worse outcome.