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PLS ATTEND! Espero meeting public re gun control - June 27 6:30pm at Room 229. (Read 151394 times)

Jl808

Please be advised that Will Espero will be having a public meeting on MONDAY June 27, 6:30pm at the Captiol Room 229. 

I got this from HiCarry and I just confirmed the meeting by calling Espero's office. 

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From Wil Espero's post in Civil Beat Politics: I met with this group of concerned residents who want to do more about gun violence and gun control in light of the Orlando massacre. We have a follow-up meeting June 27th at the State Capitol in room 229 at 6:30pm to work together, build a coalition, and develop a plan to have an impact on local and national conversations about guns. Public welcome.

This meeting will be open to the public.  Since it is in the evening, please make every effort to attend.  This coming one will be an important legislative year for us so it is even more important to stand together.

Remember that Espero is the guy responsible for introducing these oh-so-awesome bills this legislative session.

SB2954 SD2 HD1   Criminal History Record Checks; Police; Permits to Acquire Firearms; Hawaii Criminal Justice Data Center; Database Management
RELATING TO FIREARMS.   Authorizes county police departments to enroll firearms applicants and individuals who are registering their firearms into a criminal record monitoring service used to alert police when an owner of a firearm is arrested for a criminal offense anywhere in the country. Authorizes the Hawaii Criminal Justice Data Center to access firearm registration data. (SB2954 HD1)
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2954

SB2956 SD1   Firearms; Mental Illness; Surrender of Firearms   
RELATING TO FIREARMS.   Requires firearm owners who have been disqualified from owning a firearm due to mental illness and who underwent involuntary hospitalization to immediately surrender their firearms to the chief of police upon receiving written notification and authorizes the chief of police to take possession of the firearms if the owner fails to comply. Effective January 7, 2059. (SD1)
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2956

SB2314 SD1   Abuse Against a Family or Household Member; Deferred Acceptance of Guilty Plea; Nolo Contendere Plea   
RELATING TO THE OFFENSE OF ABUSE OF FAMILY OR HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS.   Makes a person ineligible for a deferred acceptance of guilty plea or deferred acceptance of nolo contendere plea in cases where the person was originally charged with the offense of abuse of a family or household member and the charge is subsequently reduced to a lesser included offense. Effective 1/7/2059. (SD1)
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2314

SB2204   Firearm Ownership; Restrictions; No Fly List   RELATING TO FIREARM RESTRICTIONS.   
Restricts anybody included on the terrorist screening center's no-fly list from owning, possessing, or controlling a firearm or ammunition therefor.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2204

SB674   Animal Cruelty; Import and Sale of Ivory and Rhinoceros Horn; Prohibitions; Penalties   
RELATING TO WILDLIFE PROTECTION.   Establishes the offense of the unlawful sale or trade of ivory or rhinoceros horn for any person who sells, offers to sell, possesses with the intent to sell, or imports with the intent to sell any ivory or rhinoceros horn. Creates exemptions for the sale or trade of ivory or rhinoceros horn. Effective 01/01/16.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=674

« Last Edit: June 21, 2016, 11:25:16 AM by Jl808 »
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z06psi

200-300 people need to show up to this if not more.  I am planning on going.

punaperson

Funny (not haha funny) that I mentioned Espero by name in a post two days ago as likely getting ready with a load of anti-firearm civil rights/civilian disarmament bills for next year. He must have read my post and wanted to get an extra early start. As I wrote there, I suspect he/they already have a boilerplate bill for an "assault weapons" and "high-capacity magazine" ban from Bloomberg, et. al. that they merely need to tailor to Hawaii's specific HRS language. I guess that means he probably won't be sponsoring my suggested bill: HRS 134 (repealed).

I hope there is a big turnout of 2A supporters on Oahu and that they are given "equal time" to present their views. Any bets? It'd be great if arrangements could be made to record the whole thing on video, or at least audio, so there is a record of just how the system works (and I use the word "works" loosely).

zippz

We need a lot of women to attend so bring your girlfriend, wife, and other friends along.

Inspector

Sorry Gents, I will be off island on that day and won't be able to attend.  >:( >:( >:(
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

HiCarry

Funny (not haha funny) that I mentioned Espero by name in a post two days ago as likely getting ready with a load of anti-firearm civil rights/civilian disarmament bills for next year. He must have read my post and wanted to get an extra early start. As I wrote there, I suspect he/they already have a boilerplate bill for an "assault weapons" and "high-capacity magazine" ban from Bloomberg, et. al. that they merely need to tailor to Hawaii's specific HRS language. I guess that means he probably won't be sponsoring my suggested bill: HRS 134 (repealed).

I hope there is a big turnout of 2A supporters on Oahu and that they are given "equal time" to present their views. Any bets? It'd be great if arrangements could be made to record the whole thing on video, or at least audio, so there is a record of just how the system works (and I use the word "works" loosely).
Recording the event is a GREAT idea and one that could yield good stuff to use in future advocacy efforts.

556fun

Recording the event is a GREAT idea and one that could yield good stuff to use in future advocacy efforts.
Is it possible to submit written testimony - I will be in California - but willing to forward written testimony. 


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Jl808

You can have someone read a testimony for you.
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556fun

I'll try to find someone


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punaperson

I just talked to someone in his office and they said there will be no broadcast or recording of the event, as "it's only a meeting and it's in the evening so we don't have anyone to do that". I'm guessing it's therefore not an official government/legislative event that would also have rules, including about submitting testimony, etc. All the more reason for someone to get the whole thing recorded as I suspect someone might possibly say what they really mean rather than using the constant euphemisms of "gun safety regulations".  :shaka: Wish I had a recording of the original meeting that led to this follow-up publicly announced and open meeting...

HiCarry

I just talked to someone in his office and they said there will be no broadcast or recording of the event, as "it's only a meeting and it's in the evening so we don't have anyone to do that". I'm guessing it's therefore not an official government/legislative event that would also have rules, including about submitting testimony, etc. All the more reason for someone to get the whole thing recorded as I suspect someone might possibly say what they really mean rather than using the constant euphemisms of "gun safety regulations".  :shaka: Wish I had a recording of the original meeting that led to this follow-up publicly announced and open meeting...
Good thing Hawaii is a single party notification state with regards to recording....there is nothing they can do to prevent you from recording.....

Aegis808

I'll be there.

whynow?

I will show up.   Hope this is not a one way type meeting for only the concerned citizen's for gun control talking with Espero.
Since no bills being presented is some kind of testimony still needed, just in case? 
The mods should place this thread under general discussion also to get more publicity out to the forum members.   2016 and 2017, we will be in the fight of our lives.

punaperson

Aside: Espero has been in the legislature for 16 (sixteen) years, and prior to that was a mayoral political appointee for 8 (eight) years. Your tax dollars at work. Maybe someone could ask him a question about term limits so we can hear his "still lots of work to do for the people of Hawaii" canned response.

Duenas0326

It's disturbing to see the posting of this informal "meeting" be held at the Capitol, after hours and in the evening. It's also suspicious that there's no one available to record or take the meeting minutes of the topics to be discussed. Is this even for real?? Would this be a waste of time? The only thing I can see coming out of this is our testimony being heard in one ear and out the other. I can see this meeting not last any longer than an hour depending if the meetings climate tone is mellow which I highly doubt. Mr. Espero will try to keep the meeting on topic and not fall off track. I do hope however that everyone in attendance will speak and present a powerful stance on our 2A rights to the Constitution.

punaperson

I will show up.  Hope this is not a one way type meeting for only the concerned citizen's for gun control talking with Espero.
Since no bills being presented is some kind of testimony still needed, just in case? 
The mods should place this thread under general discussion also to get more publicity out to the forum members.   2016 and 2017, we will be in the fight of our lives.
I suspect that since the meeting was created by a "group of concerned residents who want to do more about gun violence and gun control" (have they assumed an unwarranted causal connection? Duh!) that those defending the natural fundamental individual enumerated Constitutionally-protected civil right to keep and bear arms will not receive a particularly warm welcome. I could be wrong, but when was the last time you spoke to a "gun control" advocate who was interested in having a discussion based on facts? Good luck folks!

eyeeatingfish

i think I can hit that meeting up on my way to work. Ill call a friend too.

whynow?

Well if this meeting is only for the gun control types, me as a general public member will listen to what is said and plotted, mean planned.   
Forewarned is forearmed as the old saying goes.  The Civil Beat archives for Espero don't even mention this meeting.

edster48

I'll be there.

I'm bringing the midget.   >:D
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macsak

I'll be there.

I'm bringing the midget.   >:D

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