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PLS ATTEND! Espero meeting public re gun control - June 27 6:30pm at Room 229. (Read 144648 times)

eyeeatingfish

Thank you to all those who came. I thought we maintained a pretty civil discourse given the passion on the issue. Interestingly, rap back became the big talking point but there was a little discussion on what could be done to reduce shootings. General ideas and desires but not much in the way of specifics.

I think Espero definitely learned he is going to have to reckon with us if we manage to keep up this level of representation at gun control meetings.

Props to ester who behaved himself, especially since he was sitting next to the most... vocal gun control advocate present!

Thanks to London who brought free name tags and all his research into the rap back system.
Thanks to JI808 who brought this to our attention!

Unfortunately we aren't the best looking crowd, mostly dudes present.

London808

My last experience with any sort of state or government entity was spent with UH Manoa and volunteering for fundraising and it does NOT surprise me how shallow and poorly educated our "leaders" in government are...

Not surprised with this revelation at all.

What did the Anti-gunners say with regards to what the Rap Back System was really all about? More yelling? More name calling?

Sorry, just got off of work. Thank you for sharing.

There was not much talk about rapback, I think i had more answers then the senator who pushed the bill.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

Kuleana


We did find out some information tho

The law was signed into effect on Friday and as such is the only method of background checks that can be implemented, Yet Hawaii has no way of implementing it and it will not be ready for 6 months.



If they are ready, like they think they will be in 6 months, was it revealed whether only new applicants or registrants at that time be enrolled in the Rap Back or will they retroactively enroll everyone from July 1, 2016 or earlier?

London808


Thanks to London who brought free name tags and all his research into the rap back system.


Your welcome, Out of 20 i had i got home with 3, Even gave one to the senator (technically he helped himself) We will have more of these for other event and meetings, You can write what you want on them with a sharpie just give it 20 seconds to dry before wearing it. The back has the 2A printed on it.



"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

PalisadesKid

HAHAHAHHAHA  they took it down.!!!!!

Typical.. BUT I think when an event is done, Facebook automatically erases it. I think ....

London808


If they are ready, like they think they will be in 6 months, was it revealed whether only new applicants or registrants at that time be enrolled in the Rap Back or will they retroactively enroll everyone from July 1, 2016 or earlier?

From a new understanding only new applicants will be enrolled, That being said they coul try and add old people and just deal with the consequences.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

London808

Typical.. BUT I think when an event is done, Facebook automatically erases it. I think ....

Nope it was manually removed,
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

z06psi

He was trying to deflect and go down his hate of religion.  There were two posts actually and both of them we on pure emotion.

He honestly believed that everything he was advocating for didn't violate the 2nd, 4th, or 10th Amendment.  I asked him how he would feel about his new found right of gay marriage being restricted to only civil unions again and that they all had to register themselves with the government.  Crickets.

z06psi

Nope it was manually removed,

Yeah I thought so the way it went down.  I wish I could have captured the other thread.

PalisadesKid

billflorig

« Last Edit: June 28, 2016, 07:57:04 AM by billflorig »

bass monkey

I was very proud to be there tonight and glad to meet all of you guys. We have to zealously defend our rights or they will try to take them. We need to keep our collective finger on the pulse of this debate and rally even stronger next time they have a meeting. Angry gay man will be back next time with a lot more fringers so we need to be prepared. What is the mechanism to rally folks? HRA, 2A? Please let me know and I'll bring more folks with me....thanks to all for defending the bill of rights tonight. Espero is a liar and a typical politician. He knew damn well what he was doing and did a lot of back pedaling tonight! Tell me again Will how I get myself out of RAP Back when I leave the state permanently after de-registering my guns??? He could never answer that. He is a shill for secular progressives that look a lot like Nobama and Billary!

Where were you sitting? I don't think we had a chance to introduce

billflorig

Back row, middle, shaved head, blue and yellow Aloha shirt.....

bass monkey

Oh ok I remember seeing you

z06psi

I was very proud to be there tonight and glad to meet all of you guys. We have to zealously defend our rights or they will try to take them. We need to keep our collective finger on the pulse of this debate and rally even stronger next time they have a meeting. Angry gay man will be back next time with a lot more fringers so we need to be prepared. What is the mechanism to rally folks? HRA, 2A? Please let me know and I'll bring more folks with me....thanks to all for defending the bill of rights tonight. Espero is a liar and a typical politician. He knew damn well what he was doing and did a lot of back pedaling tonight! Tell me again Will how I get myself out of RAP Back when I leave the state permanently after de-registering my guns??? He could never answer that. He is a shill for secular progressives that look a lot like Nobama and Billary!

There isn't even a unregistering process!  The law was intended that way back in, 1996?

whynow?

Where were your sitting?
Back row center.

billflorig

So do I have to sue to get out of the Hawaii registration database???

London808

Im not even sure it suing would work, You can send them a letter notifying them that you have left the state with all firearms tho.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

z06psi

So do I have to sue to get out of the Hawaii registration database???

Yes you would have to. There is no process.

whynow?

I belive he was last row 2 to my right
You're correct, how did you know that?   Was it the old (but still handsome) guy look?
Anyways I'm glad you're on our side.  You presented facts well.  Knowledge is always power.
Actually I didn't get the connection with the British accent and the name London808 till reading this thread.   Was the green hair for Brexit?