OK, So i Just now got of the phone with Wolfwood, If as a group we want to go ahead and fight this were going to need to raise funds, The reason they couldn't take this on contingency (they take the case and wait for the courts to pay them) is because it might take months into years to litigate and with that they basically be operating out of pocket. I asked Wolfwood how much they would need to take this up and the magic number is $15k.

The problem is as edster stated, Untill they implement they system and we see how its going to work, were not sure what is going to happen, That being said any funds rasied could be used to fight any future 2A violation if for example they realize that rapback is illegal and cant be implemented.

Fighting it from a second amendment position is futile.  It is a fourth amendment issue more than a second amendment one.  Plus the circuit court we are in is more likely to rule in our favor based off a fourth amendment position rather than a 2nd amendment one.  Unreasonable seizure of our PII.   I am in for $200.00 towards the legal battle from this standpoint and possibly more.  Lmk

Oh btw just received my membership card for HRA today.  🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😎😎😎😎😎

Pretty much just sitting on our hands at he moment, after speaking wolfwood there is nothing to do until we say how they actually try an implement this. The whole thing has so many holes it wouldn't be a surprise to see a rapback mk2 come up next session

OK, So i Just now got of the phone with Wolfwood, If as a group we want to go ahead and fight this were going to need to raise funds, The reason they couldn't take this on contingency (they take the case and wait for the courts to pay them) is because it might take months into years to litigate and with that they basically be operating out of pocket. I asked Wolfwood how much they would need to take this up and the magic number is $15k.

The problem is as edster stated, Untill they implement they system and we see how its going to work, were not sure what is going to happen, That being said any funds rasied could be used to fight any future 2A violation if for example they realize that rapback is illegal and cant be implemented.

London808, we might also check with Steven Stamboulieh and Allen Beck. They worked with Richard Holcomb to fight Kaiser on the HPD permitting medical process. Let me know how I can help.   


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London808, we might also check with Steven Stamboulieh and Allen Beck. They worked with Richard Holcomb to fight Kaiser on the HPD permitting medical process. Let me know how I can help.   


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Woolfwood is Alan Beck , I want to move forward with fund raising but with so many diffrent groups i dont want to step on any tows. There is a bunch of lawsuits that should be filled as well as this one. 

Roger that, then tell me how I can help... And when did you speak with him. He didn't mention you!


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I'm a little curious why the people on this site think the courts are going to help us?
The 9th Circus court will kill us.  I'd like to see some discussion on some extra legal
things we can do.  Chase off tourists. Disarm cops.  Metaphorically kill the state that
is going to kill you.  If every Democrat in this state left, this would be a paradise.

I'm a little curious why the people on this site think the courts are going to help us?
The 9th Circus court will kill us.  I'd like to see some discussion on some extra legal
things we can do.  Chase off tourists. Disarm cops.  Metaphorically kill the state that
is going to kill you.  If every Democrat in this state left, this would be a paradise.

FYI -- medical marijuana disqualifies you from owning firearms in Hawaii.

Just saying ...   

FYI -- medical marijuana disqualifies you from owning firearms in Hawaii.

Just saying ...   

Hahaha, tell that to Joe Rogan... He's a douche!


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FYI -- medical marijuana disqualifies you from owning firearms in Hawaii.

Just saying ...   

It doesn't matter if we do t try... At least we can say that we stirred the hornets nest. Without Liberty, what do we have? A socialists utopia. That's my opinion and I'm not backing down.


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Roger that, then tell me how I can help... And when did you speak with him. He didn't mention you!


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I last spoke to him Tuesday,  I got the opinuion he had spoke to over a dozen people since the governor signed the law. 

I last spoke to him Tuesday,  I got the opinuion he had spoke to over a dozen people since the governor signed the law.

You da man London, now let's get this thing rolling. When and where is the fund raiser? What about go fund me or kickstart or something like that. I have at lest 8 people that will donate possible more. Let's not sit on our arses and get this going!!! I'm fucking serious. Btw, green hair is out. Lol


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Been searching the web to see what others have.  Came across this https://www.firearmspolicy.org. Even with them Cali still got all that shit passed.  Buuuut I think we're going in the right direction.  I could help rally a bunch of people to donate etc.

My girlfriend was at the hearing at the Capitol with Espero and his anti-gun crowd, I was on duty and unable to attend. She got really motivated just by being there, and said that "EXCUSE ME, I'M TALKING" guy with the glasses and bald head seemed really irrational, same for that "only scholars should make the laws" woman. She now sees that all those FaceBook and InstaGram posts about liberals acting like whining kids was based on something after all. Back to my point, she and I will both be writing to Ige and Espero to voice our disapproval not only of this law, but their incompetence in pushing it through without even reviewing it. We will also voice that we'll be donating to raise legal funds to repeal this law (if it's passed) and any law that violates any Constitutional right. I think it's a good idea to mention the donation part because that's the only thing that some of these politicians will pay attention to.

http://www.guns.com/2016/07/08/group-seeks-to-link-doj-to-database-of-hawaii-gun-owners/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=577fb56604d3017bf010c8cf&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

This was posted today

 

Oh btw just received my membership card for HRA today.  🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😎😎😎😎😎

OK, So i Just now got of the phone with Wolfwood, If as a group we want to go ahead and fight this were going to need to raise funds, The reason they couldn't take this on contingency (they take the case and wait for the courts to pay them) is because it might take months into years to litigate and with that they basically be operating out of pocket. I asked Wolfwood how much they would need to take this up and the magic number is $15k.

The problem is as edster stated, Untill they implement they system and we see how its going to work, were not sure what is going to happen, That being said any funds rasied could be used to fight any future 2A violation if for example they realize that rapback is illegal and cant be implemented.

Thought I posted strating a "Go Fund Me' page for this objective, but I no longer see it 

If/when fundraising begins, I will throw some american pesos into the hat.