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antoinebugleboy

Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« on: December 05, 2011, 09:16:23 AM »
http://reason.com/blog/2011/12/05/newt-gingrich-stabs-gun-owners-in-the-ba

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"But the biggest knife that Newt plunged into the back of all Americans and gun owners who wish to defend themselves and their families, was his coming out in support of a national thumbprint database for gun owners," said [D.R. Leonard, Political Director of Georgia Gun Owners].
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Heavies

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2011, 04:46:39 PM »
He can have a finger, and it isn't a thumb!
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Aegis808

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2011, 05:22:22 PM »
my vote is always going to Ron Paul anyways
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Cougar8045

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2011, 07:37:15 PM »
Quote from: Heavies on December 05, 2011, 04:46:39 PM
He can have a finger, and it isn't a thumb!
Well put, and I'll throw two of my own into the pot, as well.
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antoinebugleboy

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2011, 08:44:32 PM »
Quote from: Aegis808 on December 05, 2011, 05:22:22 PM
my vote is always going to Ron Paul anyways

 :thumbsup:
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Funtimes

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2011, 11:17:33 AM »
Quote from: Aegis808 on December 05, 2011, 05:22:22 PM
my vote is always going to Ron Paul anyways

Ron Paul wont win the primary unfortunately. (He looks to evil imo!)
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Aegis808

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2011, 11:51:03 AM »
meh i'm just gonna keep writing his name on the ballot no matter what
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vooduchikn

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2011, 11:52:33 AM »
Quote from: Aegis808 on December 06, 2011, 11:51:03 AM
meh i'm just gonna keep writing his name on the ballot no matter what

Even after he isn't the GOP candidate? Thats a smart move, especially if you want the current resident to stay where he is....
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antoinebugleboy

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2011, 12:14:59 PM »
Quote from: vooduchikn on December 06, 2011, 11:52:33 AM
Quote from: Aegis808 on December 06, 2011, 11:51:03 AM
meh i'm just gonna keep writing his name on the ballot no matter what

Even after he isn't the GOP candidate? Thats a smart move, especially if you want the current resident to stay where he is....

Consider the consequences: 1) You vote for someone you despise because you despise the other guy a little bit more. - Whoever wins gets into office anyway. Especially in Hawaii, which is almost certainly going to go to Obama. 2) You vote for the person who really represents your beliefs. - Same as #1, but you haven't sold out.
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Aegis808

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2011, 12:42:38 PM »
why vote a person i dont want in the first place? I'm gonna stick to the candidate that most resembles my opinions. A vote for anyone else is a vote for more of the same IMO. As i see it, if the 2011 NDAA bill passes without a veto i foresee a revolution that will tear America apart. in the near future.
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Heavies

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2011, 07:42:34 PM »
Even though...  a vote that is wasted on some one who can't win; the opposition will.  That is just what we all do not need.  The big O-kole back in office for another four years.  We will all be bankrupt, starving, and in another world war, thanks to this a-hole.  We may be too far sown that path already.......
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hvybarrels

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2011, 08:16:21 PM »
I'm writing in Ron Paul if I vote. Better to go down with one's dignity in tact that to follow along like some sheep. We're all pretty boned as it is.
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Heavies

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2011, 08:48:06 PM »
Well I guess you all want o bummer to get back in

It's not about dignity, following crowds, popularity....
It's about getting things better with what is presented. If he gets back in they've won. I don't think this country can survive another four years with the current admin. If he appoints just one more anti supreme court justice, all that 2a stuff will be out the window! Think about it.
This country is on the ragged edge of something major. I think this guy is leading us over the edge. 
Change, his change, is almost here, four more years and we will see it. And I'd wager not one who supports 2a will like what they see. 
« Last Edit: December 06, 2011, 08:57:59 PM by Heavies »
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Aegis808

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 08:49:20 PM »
i'll take the enemy i know before i take the enemy i pretend to know.
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Funtimes

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2011, 10:39:15 PM »
You already know this enemy sucks, not sure the next 'enemy' would or could be any worse.
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myanmar1

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2011, 11:17:06 PM »
I would vote for Newt. He's not my ideal candidate, but he's way closer to my political views than the current resident.
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Armaggeddon_Armory

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2011, 09:45:33 AM »
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« Last Edit: December 08, 2011, 03:21:57 PM by Armaggeddon_Armory »
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antoinebugleboy

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2011, 09:53:15 AM »
For those of you espousing the "lesser of two evils" theory, I'm curious: if it were a race between Newt and Paul, who'd you vote for?
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vooduchikn

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2011, 10:15:56 AM »
Quote from: antoinebugleboy on December 07, 2011, 09:53:15 AM
For those of you espousing the "lesser of two evils" theory, I'm curious: if it were a race between Newt and Paul, who'd you vote for?


Ron Paul has a lot of great ideas and some kooky ones to go along with it.

The issue is not what ideas he has, but what he can actually make happen.  If you think for a second that Congress is going to just go along with even 1/2 of Ron Pauls ideas, then you are living in a fantasy world.

For those calling Newt a career politician, RP isn't far from that.

Newt is a realist, RP is still dreaming about the way things used to be and isn't going to let go of that. Times have changed (for the worse unfortunately) and RP just can't get passed that.

I am not saying that I do not like RP, or his ideas. 

If it came down to the above, I am going to vote for the guy that can beat the current resident and put a republican back in the WH.  RP doesn't have the numbers, the media, or the endorsements at this time.

Wait till after Iowa, we may see a change.



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Aegis808

Re: Newt Gingrich wants national fingerprint database for gun owners
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2011, 10:31:06 AM »
Quote from: vooduchikn on December 07, 2011, 10:15:56 AM
Quote from: antoinebugleboy on December 07, 2011, 09:53:15 AM
For those of you espousing the "lesser of two evils" theory, I'm curious: if it were a race between Newt and Paul, who'd you vote for?


Ron Paul has a lot of great ideas and some kooky ones to go along with it.

The issue is not what ideas he has, but what he can actually make happen.  If you think for a second that Congress is going to just go along with even 1/2 of Ron Pauls ideas, then you are living in a fantasy world.

For those calling Newt a career politician, RP isn't far from that.

Newt is a realist, RP is still dreaming about the way things used to be and isn't going to let go of that. Times have changed (for the worse unfortunately) and RP just can't get passed that.

I am not saying that I do not like RP, or his ideas. 

If it came down to the above, I am going to vote for the guy that can beat the current resident and put a republican back in the WH.  RP doesn't have the numbers, the media, or the endorsements at this time.

Wait till after Iowa, we may see a change.

he wants thing to go back to how the founding fathers established them, how is that kooky? To think newt can beat Obama is lunacy just wait and within the next week all his skeletons will be out of the closet once again. saying stuff like we cant change how things are is just giving into voluntaryism and you mas as well remove yourself from the whole political process. voting for parties in 2012 is a foolish game of choosing which way would you want to bleed to death.
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