Where's the tipping point? (Read 59861 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Where's the tipping point?
« Reply #120 on: July 13, 2016, 09:14:05 AM »
Not gonna feed this troll anymore.

No response to my comment other than deflection.

I'm shocked!

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Jl808

Re: Where's the tipping point?
« Reply #121 on: July 13, 2016, 09:15:43 AM »
LOL

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drck1000

Re: Where's the tipping point?
« Reply #122 on: July 13, 2016, 10:40:01 AM »
I've been thinking about this since edster's OP.  I won't get into my personal "line in the sand" here, but when he first posted, I thought that we weren't that close.  Since then, which was only 10 days ago, I believe things have gotten closer and I believe it will get much worse.  To that end, I've been thinking about individual lines in the sand and collective or society's line in the sand and what it will take to bring about change.  Right now, there seems to be a lot individual lines in the sand and occasionally groups will make their line known and make their stand.  Be it with regard to ranching issues, racial stuff, gun rights/control, etc. 

With regards to line in the sand with regards to gun control, I envision that there won't be sufficient numbers who have reached their "line in the sand" and band together to effect change until after 2A has been eroded to the point of confiscation and beyond.  I hope it never gets there, but that's what I envision (and hope I am wrong).  I just see the tide is where too many people are brainwashed into guns=bad, no guns=security.  Of course the members of this board wouldn't be in that category. 

I view this issue as evolving like a pendulum.  We haven't reached the bottom of the pendulum swing and the pendulum will need to swing to the "other side" before making it's way back to "our side".  That it will take the pendulum swing to get to the "other side" far enough to get those brainwashed people to wake up and see the light. 

Not sure if that answers the question that was asked, but those are my thoughts. . .

FBI

Re: Where's the tipping point?
« Reply #123 on: July 13, 2016, 12:58:33 PM »
In what way? Regarding firearms rights?

The biggest threat to my heath, safety, welfare, and liberty is
the Hawaiian state and county governments.  Cops are the
dangerous armed agents of those governments.
Hawaiians don't have firearms rights.
If I have to ask permission, or get a license, it is not a right.
Yes I'm afraid of the police.  In 20th century history, cops
killed millions of people, all  legally. China, Russia, Japan,
Germany,  and Cambodia just to name a few.



omnigun

Re: Where's the tipping point?
« Reply #124 on: July 13, 2016, 01:38:49 PM »
I've been thinking about this since edster's OP.  I won't get into my personal "line in the sand" here, but when he first posted, I thought that we weren't that close.  Since then, which was only 10 days ago, I believe things have gotten closer and I believe it will get much worse.  To that end, I've been thinking about individual lines in the sand and collective or society's line in the sand and what it will take to bring about change.  Right now, there seems to be a lot individual lines in the sand and occasionally groups will make their line known and make their stand.  Be it with regard to ranching issues, racial stuff, gun rights/control, etc. 

With regards to line in the sand with regards to gun control, I envision that there won't be sufficient numbers who have reached their "line in the sand" and band together to effect change until after 2A has been eroded to the point of confiscation and beyond.  I hope it never gets there, but that's what I envision (and hope I am wrong).  I just see the tide is where too many people are brainwashed into guns=bad, no guns=security.  Of course the members of this board wouldn't be in that category. 

I view this issue as evolving like a pendulum.  We haven't reached the bottom of the pendulum swing and the pendulum will need to swing to the "other side" before making it's way back to "our side".  That it will take the pendulum swing to get to the "other side" far enough to get those brainwashed people to wake up and see the light. 

Not sure if that answers the question that was asked, but those are my thoughts. . .

I'm fairly certain that if they did full on confiscation, Australian style there would be bands of people coming together to fight that (aka civil war).

robtmc

Re: Where's the tipping point?
« Reply #125 on: July 13, 2016, 01:39:22 PM »
there is maybe 100 registered guns owners on the island.  Besides, we can generally shoot where we want, as long as
we listen to police scanners and have hunting licenses.
I'd say from the steady business I see our local Kona shop doing, there are quite a few more than 100, though maybe not "registered".

The lack of a decent range for disciplined shooting really eats at me.  No hunting license and no hunting areas near me anyway.

robtmc

Re: Where's the tipping point?
« Reply #126 on: July 13, 2016, 01:51:23 PM »
#crickets
The unmentioned explanation is that membership is prohibited by the rules of HPD, written or unofficial.

drck1000

Re: Where's the tipping point?
« Reply #127 on: July 13, 2016, 01:59:32 PM »
I'm fairly certain that if they did full on confiscation, Australian style there would be bands of people coming together to fight that (aka civil war).
I wasn't envisioning on a national scale.  More like county or even state level.  If it were to come down on a national level, that would be major.  I don't see it happening that way, but who knows. 

Inspector

Re: Where's the tipping point?
« Reply #128 on: July 13, 2016, 02:26:07 PM »
No response to my comment other than deflection.

I'm shocked!


Boy I wish I was Kirk right about that time the photo was snapped. I figure he just saw the biggest pair of (green) alien hooters he had ever seen!!!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

FBI

Re: Where's the tipping point?
« Reply #129 on: July 13, 2016, 02:28:05 PM »
I'd say from the steady business I see our local Kona shop doing, there are quite a few more than 100, though maybe not "registered".

The lack of a decent range for disciplined shooting really eats at me.  No hunting license and no hunting areas near me anyway.

This is a public forum.
There is a popular place on Hamakua side 60 meters range, old police pistol range.
There is a place off the Mauna Kea access road  I''ve heard is
up to 500 meters or more.
They have made it darn near impossible to get a hunting license
class  these days.  I was thinking of getting certified to teach the
course.  But I have to play nice with union Democrat cops.


omnigun

Re: Where's the tipping point?
« Reply #130 on: July 13, 2016, 03:34:30 PM »
I wasn't envisioning on a national scale.  More like county or even state level.  If it were to come down on a national level, that would be major.  I don't see it happening that way, but who knows.

Even locally I don't think they could pull it off.  Even if it happened in Commifornia there would be many dead cops/army/atf and eventually they would refuse to enforce the law or it would be repealed.  Who the hell wants to go into Americans homes and get shot at over and over for an unconstitutional law?

RSN172

Re: Where's the tipping point?
« Reply #131 on: July 13, 2016, 08:45:16 PM »
I wouldn't want to be a LEO trying to confiscate guns in the back country of places like Kentucky and Tennessee.  There would be a 100% chance you would get shot.
Happily living in Puna

passivekinetic

Re: Where's the tipping point?
« Reply #132 on: July 13, 2016, 08:54:38 PM »
Cough cough robot cough cough
"The sheep fear sheepdogs, because they fail to see the wolves."
- Anonymous

eyeeatingfish

Re: Where's the tipping point?
« Reply #133 on: July 15, 2016, 02:06:33 AM »

I'm shocked!

That you out trolled me?

I respond to you and you call me a troll. I try to get back to the original discussion and you derail it again. There is just no winning with you.
Not sure why I am even bothering to type a response to you now.

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« Last Edit: July 15, 2016, 02:13:29 AM by eyeeatingfish »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Where's the tipping point?
« Reply #134 on: July 15, 2016, 07:20:27 AM »
That you out trolled me?

I respond to you and you call me a troll. I try to get back to the original discussion and you derail it again. There is just no winning with you.
Not sure why I am even bothering to type a response to you now.

 :stopjack:

Recommend you read your own posts!

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This unresponsive response said you weren't going to reply anymore to me, yet here you are!!!   :rofl:

I'll answer your question, even though to everyone else it's completely obvious:  YOU CAN'T STAND NOT  HAVING THE LAST WORD!   >:D

 :stopjack:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw