armed at work in Hawaii (Read 18953 times)

stangzilla

armed at work in Hawaii
« on: July 12, 2016, 04:02:29 PM »
Is it legal to be armed at work in Hawaii?

my work will have an active shooter training soon
it is my understanding that in Hawaii we can be armed at home on private property, but what about at work?
if you have the consent of the workplace, can you carry at work?

I highly doubt my workplace would allow it, but I would feel a whole hell of a lot safer if I were armed in an active shooter scenario
I work at a medical clinic if that helps

what are your understandings on the subject?

macsak

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2016, 04:05:18 PM »
Is it legal to be armed at work in Hawaii?

my work will have an active shooter training soon
it is my understanding that in Hawaii we can be armed at home on private property, but what about at work?
if you have the consent of the workplace, can you carry at work?

I highly doubt my workplace would allow it, but I would feel a whole hell of a lot safer if I were armed in an active shooter scenario
I work at a medical clinic if that helps

what are your understandings on the subject?
 

your employer has to allow it
and their lease has to not prohibit it

zippz

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2016, 04:26:43 PM »
I suggest getting additional training if you do carry at work, something that includes scenarios using simunitions.  Most people do not realize the difficulty in handling active shooter scenarios armed.  It is very easy to shoot the wrong person.

drck1000

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2016, 04:31:26 PM »
We had mandatory active shooter training about a month ago.  Run, Hide, Fight. 

No firearms allowed on the property where I work. 

macsak

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2016, 04:44:14 PM »
I suggest getting additional training if you do carry at work, something that includes scenarios using simunitions.  Most people do not realize the difficulty in handling active shooter scenarios armed.  It is very easy to shoot the wrong person.

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last saturday at the kmconcepts night match, they had targets with no shoots behind them,so you had to make sure of your angle before you took the shot

stangzilla

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2016, 05:14:18 PM »
We had mandatory active shooter training about a month ago.  Run, Hide, Fight. 

No firearms allowed on the property where I work.

i'll ask about firearms on the property, but I'm pretty sure it'll be the run hide fight routine


any extra training is good too

newguy86

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2016, 06:08:19 PM »
I have this, and so dose the rest of the ppl i work with, ( i work in the kitchen )

eyeeatingfish

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2016, 02:27:15 AM »
Is it legal to be armed at work in Hawaii?

my work will have an active shooter training soon
it is my understanding that in Hawaii we can be armed at home on private property, but what about at work?
if you have the consent of the workplace, can you carry at work?

I highly doubt my workplace would allow it, but I would feel a whole hell of a lot safer if I were armed in an active shooter scenario
I work at a medical clinic if that helps

what are your understandings on the subject?

Yes, by law you are allowed to have your firearm at your place of business. However if your place of business happens to be a vehicle such as a taxi or food truck then you run into issues. I haven't found specific cases say so but I was told that does not cover taxi drivers.

Of course if your company says no firearms and you are caught carrying then you would be subject to being fired but legally speaking you are fine.

drck1000

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2016, 07:31:12 AM »
Yes, by law you are allowed to have your firearm at your place of business. However if your place of business happens to be a vehicle such as a taxi or food truck then you run into issues. I haven't found specific cases say so but I was told that does not cover taxi drivers.

Of course if your company says no firearms and you are caught carrying then you would be subject to being fired but legally speaking you are fine.

Keep in mind that there are other laws besides city/county and state. 
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18 U.S. Code § 930 - Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities

KMConcepts

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2016, 10:48:45 AM »
true
last saturday at the kmconcepts night match, they had targets with no shoots behind them,so you had to make sure of your angle before you took the shot
and you guys did an awesome job dealing with that !
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eyeeatingfish

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2016, 01:58:45 AM »
Keep in mind that there are other laws besides city/county and state.

Good point, thank you for pointing that out.

All_rice

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2016, 10:25:08 PM »
We had mandatory active shooter training about a month ago.  Run, Hide, Fight. 

No firearms allowed on the property where I work.

Was this on the guard side? I still have the hand outs.  "Try and talk to the knife wielding psycho first" lol
Land of the free, because of the Brave!

drck1000

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2016, 07:10:32 AM »
Was this on the guard side? I still have the hand outs.  "Try and talk to the knife wielding psycho first" lol
Not guard.  Not sure if our training was for our organization or installation wide though.  I have a buddy in the HIANG and he said that they had basically the same training.  More like someone coming to talk to the group as opposed to training though. 

All_rice

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2016, 11:05:12 AM »
Not guard.  Not sure if our training was for our organization or installation wide though.  I have a buddy in the HIANG and he said that they had basically the same training.  More like someone coming to talk to the group as opposed to training though.

that's what we had in our recruiting office.  Someone came, showed us some power points, and that was it.  Said use an office chair if the attacker rushes you and run out the back door.  it's funny cause my coworkers think I'm crazy for locking the front door while I'm in the office.
Land of the free, because of the Brave!

All_rice

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2016, 05:54:51 PM »
Sad that this wouldn't even make it to our Governor if someone proposed this. I try not to wear my uniform daily any more.
Land of the free, because of the Brave!

RSN172

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2016, 10:17:23 PM »
A couple of years ago while trimming coconut trees at the Hilton one night about  six cops converged near where we were working because someone pulled a pocket knife on one of the Hilton workers and threatened him with it.  They were looking for the guy and asked if we saw anyone matching his description, which we did not.  He said be careful, he has a knife.  I almost laughed.  There were three of us with cane knives with 15 inch blades.  If someone slashed me with a 4 inch blade I may get a nasty cut.  If I swung my cane knife, his arm or whatever I hit would probably be removed from his body. I am pretty sure I have more experience and practice swinging that cane knife than he has swinging that pocket knife.  I told the cop yes we will watch out for him.
Happily living in Puna

s197

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2016, 08:24:33 AM »
I would check with HR. For my workplace it says no firearms in the HR manual they give at new hire orientation.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2016, 10:50:37 AM »
I would check with HR. For my workplace it says no firearms in the HR manual they give at new hire orientation.

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Then it is a question of whether you want to keep the job. I knew a girl who worked 7-11 and she carried pepper spray even though she wasn't allowed by company policy. I guess she considered her safety more important than he job.

zippz

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2016, 11:17:08 AM »
Then it is a question of whether you want to keep the job. I knew a girl who worked 7-11 and she carried pepper spray even though she wasn't allowed by company policy. I guess she considered her safety more important than he job.

HR people don't care, they're not the ones facing the danger.

All_rice

Re: armed at work in Hawaii
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2016, 11:50:45 PM »
Land of the free, because of the Brave!