service members who don't vote (Read 6236 times)

ren

service members who don't vote
« on: July 29, 2016, 05:43:09 PM »
got an interesting perspective from a sr. officer who doesn't vote.
He serves whoever Commander In Chief gets elected so he doesn't vote.
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Heavies

Re: service members who don't vote
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2016, 08:49:04 PM »
got an interesting perspective from a sr. officer who doesn't vote.
He serves whoever Commander In Chief gets elected so he doesn't vote.


Hmmm,  Would this sr. officer would follow any order said CIC dictates, since there is no interest in attempting to shape policy and direction of the nation as a whole? 

All_rice

Re: service members who don't vote
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2016, 08:57:21 PM »
I'm actually shocked at how many service members dint vote.  Also they complain the most.  #novotenogrumble
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eyeeatingfish

Re: service members who don't vote
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2016, 06:17:02 AM »
got an interesting perspective from a sr. officer who doesn't vote.
He serves whoever Commander In Chief gets elected so he doesn't vote.

I fail to see the logic in that decision.

Heavies

Re: service members who don't vote
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2016, 09:08:42 AM »
I'm actually shocked at how many service members dint vote.  Also they complain the most.  #novotenogrumble

Is it true that in theater troops do not get the opportunity to vote?

dustoff003

service members who don't vote
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2016, 09:36:23 AM »
Is it true that in theater troops do not get the opportunity to vote?
No it isn't true, at each level of command there are Voting Assistance Officers who try to get the word and ballots out for deployed service members to vote.

https://www.fvap.gov/vao

The most common way for overseas or deployed service members to vote is with the Federal Absentee Ballot, https://www.fvap.gov/hawaii

I hope that helps.


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London808

Re: service members who don't vote
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2016, 10:14:25 AM »
Is it true that in theater troops do not get the opportunity to vote?

No its not true, But by the tiem there votes are counted the president is already decided, so might as well be true.
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dustoff003

Re: service members who don't vote
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2016, 10:56:22 AM »
No its not true, But by the tiem there votes are counted the president is already decided, so might as well be true.
That is not true either as long as they send it prior to the deadline.


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Flapp_Jackson

Re: service members who don't vote
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2016, 02:32:54 PM »
More than 54 percent of the 951 surveyed said they would vote for Trump, while only about 25 percent said they would vote for Clinton.

21% said they would abstain, if these are the only two choices.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/05/11/survey-active-duty-troops-prefer-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-huge-margin

http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/election/2016/05/09/military-times-survey-donald-trump-beats-hillary-clinton/84132402/

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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Heavies

Re: service members who don't vote
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2016, 02:41:24 PM »
No it isn't true, at each level of command there are Voting Assistance Officers who try to get the word and ballots out for deployed service members to vote.

https://www.fvap.gov/vao

The most common way for overseas or deployed service members to vote is with the Federal Absentee Ballot, https://www.fvap.gov/hawaii

I hope that helps.


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Thanks. I figured that was a myth

robtmc

Re: service members who don't vote
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2016, 02:43:32 PM »
Is it true that in theater troops do not get the opportunity to vote?
Well, what is true is their votes routinely get challenged and dumped by democrat lawyers in battleground states like Florida where they may tip the election.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: service members who don't vote
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2016, 03:02:41 PM »
Well, what is true is their votes routinely get challenged and dumped by democrat lawyers in battleground states like Florida where they may tip the election.

Yes, the Gore team in FL tried to exclude military votes because the law required a postmark by election day.  Since most deployed military mail is sent postage free via mail pouch, Gore's lawyers challenged every single military vote not bearing postage.

Only after they figured out Gore was losing did the Dems agree to allow military votes, because by then those votes couldn't hurt him and may have helped him however unlikely.  They concluded if they were going to lose, they might as well defuse the anti-military vote accusations and let them be counted.

The party that fights against voter ID laws because of disenfranchisement has a history of disenfranchising the military when it is in their own self interest.

If I remember, several key states were very late sending out military absentee ballots during the 2012 Obama reelection.  Nothing was ever done to punish the state officials for breaking those deadlines, since Obama wasn't about to slap the hand that helped him.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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London808

Re: service members who don't vote
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2016, 03:38:42 PM »
That is not true either as long as they send it prior to the deadline.


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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/16/military-votes-dont-count/

"Military voters must feel like Bill Murray’s character in GroundhogDay. Election after election, certain state and local election officials fail to meet the deadline for sending absentee ballots. The outcome is often the same - thousands of ballots are received too close to the election to be returned or, if they are returned, the ballots arrive after the deadline to be counted. In either case, the military voter is disenfranchised."

Its not just sending them in on time its getting the mail in forms on time, Sattes dont send them out with enough time to get a response,
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robtmc

Re: service members who don't vote
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2016, 11:34:40 AM »
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/16/military-votes-dont-count/
Its not just sending them in on time its getting the mail in forms on time, Sattes dont send them out with enough time to get a response,
Any bets on the political affiliation of those officials always late in sending the ballots out to the military?

dustoff003

Re: service members who don't vote
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2016, 12:05:22 PM »
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/16/military-votes-dont-count/

"Military voters must feel like Bill Murray’s character in GroundhogDay. Election after election, certain state and local election officials fail to meet the deadline for sending absentee ballots. The outcome is often the same - thousands of ballots are received too close to the election to be returned or, if they are returned, the ballots arrive after the deadline to be counted. In either case, the military voter is disenfranchised."

Its not just sending them in on time its getting the mail in forms on time, Sattes dont send them out with enough time to get a response,


The states and localities can be bypassed by using the federal mechanism and ballots I linked to above.


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