Trump and the second amendment (Read 37349 times)

troy tanaka

Trump and the second amendment
« on: August 09, 2016, 09:05:39 PM »
Can someone tell me the meaning of what trump just said about our second amendment because its their to protect us from a tier government, to defend from someone who wants to harm others, so how is it that To me he just used the second amendment as to do harm to others,I don't understand this kind of thinking, to me he just insulted the second amendment and we are here to protect it, can someone explain to me his words?

ren

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2016, 09:08:40 PM »
I don't know what he said but as election gets closer it seems as though Hillary will win. Perhaps Trump was a Trojan Horse to the Republicans? There were many times he could've attacked Hillary recently but didn't.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2016, 09:22:01 PM »
Can someone tell me the meaning of what trump just said about our second amendment because its their to protect us from a tier government, to defend from someone who wants to harm others, so how is it that To me he just used the second amendment as to do harm to others,I don't understand this kind of thinking, to me he just insulted the second amendment and we are here to protect it, can someone explain to me his words?

People who dislike someone pick apart everything they say. 

Quote
"By the way, and if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know."

It was HUMOR!  And if you haven't figured it out yet, people who plan to vote for Trump LOVE this about him!  He's not afraid to make a joke, use non-PC language, and say what he really thinks.

Each time he does this, the press has a field day, but all it does is keep Trump front and center of each news cycle.  Hillary hasn't got enough money to compete with the free coverage he has been getting!!

The man is a freaking genius!  He's figured out how to say 8 words and not only steal headlines for a day, but also line up interviews to talk about what he said!

Bottom line:  if Trump hasn't said something to offend you yet, keep listening ...   :rofl:

Obviously the news is picking up on those 8 words and NOT all the others about judges picked by Hillary creating a disaster.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Heavies

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2016, 09:23:30 PM »
To me it is standard lefty spin. 

IMO, the real violent threat has come directly from the left on all recent occasions, add the constant stirring of the hate by our 'leaders', with NO condemnation nor consequence of the lawlessness, has been far more damaging, violent, and destructive to our country.  This has and will make a more lasting and devastating problem for our country than Trumps little innuendo will ever do. 

troy tanaka

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2016, 09:51:10 PM »
Thanks guys I just have to keep an open mind of what's going on, I know Hilary wants to ban ar 15 that's for sure,wait a minute if she gets elected oh crap I gotta buy ar lowers, she's going to drive up the price of guns wow

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2016, 02:40:26 PM »
Trump says he is pro 2nd amendment but I think he just did us all a disservice to suggest that we would or should assassinate Clinton.

I wouldn't put it past Trump to suggest such a thing knowing that there is a chance some lunatic would actually carry it out. Having said that, yes it was probably a joke, but not the kind of joke to make as president.

One former CIA director said in a TV interview that at a certain position in power, you aren't just responsible for what you say but also for what people hear. That is a lesson Trump seems to have no concept of.

I am starting to wonder if Trump really does have some sort of mental disorder. Not a serious one but something.

whynow?

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2016, 03:19:22 PM »
I did not hear Trump specifically stating for some one to target HRC.  The liberals like the monkeys and asses they are all chime in at the same time using the same phrases.  In fact its the democrats, from the rioters against Trump to the actual murders of DNC associated people in recent days who are the most likely to commit murder. 
It's a fact that redline Barry is a serial liar but Hellery takes lying and corruption to new levels.   If Trump is not all there, HRC has gone and left.  She admits to having a mental short circuit.   Alongside the debates, they should require both to walkup and down the steps to AF1 without any supporting personnel.  Guarans the witch no can handle this simple task. 
August 2016 is like January 1861 in many ways (or so I've heard). 

stangzilla

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2016, 03:28:11 PM »
he did not say or suggest to shoot anybody, HRC's camp of stooges did

he was addressing the 2A people, that's why he said second amendment people.  because that's who he was talking to.
HRC and her stooges will say any lie and then point the finger at Trump.  they'll just make stuff up too.
then the media will blow it up, and stupid people will believe it
this country is filled with stupid people.  just look at all the people that voted for Obama......twice.
I talk to stupid people that believe her and her lies like this one every day.  it doesn't amaze me anymore.  I just accept that there are millions of stupid people in this country.

you can't reason with stupid.

drck1000

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2016, 03:36:03 PM »
"with 2nd amendment people, maybe there is" (or something like that)

To ME, that just recognizes that there are a lot of pro-2a people in this nation and that if people work together that they can effect change. 

Like most topics, I didn't listen to what he said until well after.  From the media coverage and statements/opinions of many people on social media and forums, you'd think that he alluded to JFK assassination or something like that.

I'm more interested in learning more facts about the many people who have recently experienced sudden and tragic ends to their lives.  Damn, it must suck to be victim of coincidence. . . [end sarcasm]

ren

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2016, 03:46:50 PM »
read it again and it appears that Democrats and the like relate people who are staunch 2A supporters related to violence.
SO in other words, if you support the 2A or own a gun you are a violent person. That's the stereotype they are trying to paint us.
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Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2016, 03:48:01 PM »
read it again and it appears that Democrats and the like relate people who are staunch 2A supporters related to violence.
SO in other words, if you support the 2A or own a gun you are a violent person. That's the stereotype they are trying to paint us.
Even people here seem to believe the lies of the press as well. Shame  :'(
I hate Hillary.

drck1000

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2016, 03:52:38 PM »
read it again and it appears that Democrats and the like relate people who are staunch 2A supporters related to violence.
SO in other words, if you support the 2A or own a gun you are a violent person. That's the stereotype they are trying to paint us.
Read what?  The link Heavies posted?

If that's what you were referring to, I'll take a look tonight.  Only watched part of the video that Flapp posted. 

Are you speaking of this?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-suggests-%e2%80%98second-amendment-people%e2%80%99-could-act-against-hillary-clinton/ar-BBvsoH6?li=BBnb7Kz

stangzilla

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2016, 03:58:23 PM »
read it again and it appears that Democrats and the like relate people who are staunch 2A supporters related to violence.
SO in other words, if you support the 2A or own a gun you are a violent person. That's the stereotype they are trying to paint us.

exactly.
they think that if you have a gun, you have it for only 1 reason.....to kill people.  that's all a gun is for in their eyes.
and when the president says the same thing, all the stupid people believe it. 
the president said it, so its true.
and then you name the NRA as the enemy, so all gun owners are the enemy.
say stuff with no factual resource, and its the truth because the president said so
if you say different, YOU are the liar.
that's the way this country works right now.  very pitiful shame.
10 years ago we didn't have this stereotype of gun owners, until Obama came along.

guns did not change, we changed.


(we meaning the US opinion of guns in America, thanks to Obama)

ren

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2016, 04:04:53 PM »
If Hillary becomes President the anti 2A rhetoric will change from "common sense" gun laws to WHY you need a gun? The question of why is to drive popular support to a broader regulation of guns.
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macsak

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2016, 04:47:15 PM »
exactly.
they think that if you have a gun, you have it for only 1 reason.....to kill people.  that's all a gun is for in their eyes.
and when the president says the same thing, all the stupid people believe it. 
the president said it, so its true.
and then you name the NRA as the enemy, so all gun owners are the enemy.
say stuff with no factual resource, and its the truth because the president said so
if you say different, YOU are the liar.
that's the way this country works right now.  very pitiful shame.
10 years ago we didn't have this stereotype of gun owners, until Obama came along.

guns did not change, we changed.


(we meaning the US opinion of guns in America, thanks to Obama)

CORRECTION
if you say different, YOU are A RACIST
the only people who disagree with obama are racists!

Surf

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2016, 04:57:00 PM »
It is interesting how some will take this comment or interpret the meaning.  I think this simple dichotomy shows where an individual lies in their own personal world view or beliefs.

The pro 2a people or actual gun owners seem to take it as a non-violent call to get out and vote en masse for a candidate that will support their beliefs.  On the other side the anti-gun crowd paints a picture of gun owners being non-law abiding, violent people that are prone to assassination when they don't get their way. 

Mad Genius the manner in which the wedge has been so strategically driven right through America.  Blind to the infection planted and the scheme that has been perpetrated upon us.  We are at a precipice right now.  Interesting times.   

macsak

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2016, 05:06:52 PM »

troy tanaka

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2016, 06:02:52 PM »
Gentlemen what Trump said about the people who uphold the second amendment  is open for interpretation, for instance some of us see the glass half full and some of us see the glass half empty. Trump has to clarify what he's saying , it's as simple as that, he has faults but he has to do a better job at getting his message to the people voting for him and not say something that's open to interpretation.

new guy

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2016, 06:39:12 PM »
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