Trump and the second amendment (Read 37323 times)

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2016, 08:52:23 PM »
he did not say or suggest to shoot anybody, HRC's camp of stooges did

No he didn't say it but he implied it. Trump has repeatedly used this tactic where he implies something without actually coming out and saying it. He retweets someone else's racy comments or refers to some scandalous thing as if he isn't saying it, just pointing out someone else said something about it. It is like Trump's comments about Megan Kelly bleeding. Sure, he didn't say blood was coming from her vagina but that was the obvious implication to any adult.

And I wouldn't pin this on the HRC camp. Republicans all over were face palming the instant they heard Trump say this. I watched multiple interviews of republicans who were condemning Trump's comments. No one needed liberal glasses to see the obvious implications of his comment. Trump is trying to be the leader of the free world and he cannot say these types of things, even under the guise of a joke.

You can be Trump would have a cow if a major Democrat suggested or implied he should be "taken care of"

Surf

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2016, 09:20:31 PM »
Gentlemen what Trump said about the people who uphold the second amendment  is open for interpretation, for instance some of us see the glass half full and some of us see the glass half empty. Trump has to clarify what he's saying , it's as simple as that, he has faults but he has to do a better job at getting his message to the people voting for him and not say something that's open to interpretation.
He already clarified this, yesterday, the very next day after the initial comment was made.  The Naysayers will attempt to chalk this up as Trump underhandedness and the supporters will stand by their initial beliefs.  Ultimately it is now up to the individual to come to a conclusion about what he meant.  The downside is much is dependent on where the individual sources the information and the majority of information supported by the media comes from a heavily slanted liberal bias.       

troy tanaka

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2016, 02:14:36 AM »
You guys see what Trump is doing he's exciting he's followers to give him more money so he can pay his company, he borrowed money from his company and probably pay back his company with outrageous interest, his private plane he uses he is going to charge his campaign outrages money for using his corporate jet, he ain't spend nothing on advertisements to defend himself yet he wants his people to buy his gold card that means just that a piece of thick paper that you gave money to, he's a businessman, but I call him the ultimate hustler, taking advantage of the not so educated people and using the money to pay back his company,he's a business man first and that's a smart businessman. That's why Trump goes off the handle ever time, he doesn't care about winning the election he gets his followers all wounded up to pay more money to his campaign, its a money generating machine that's smart, you guys don't see that. Everyone's saying he's nuts but he tells his followers don't Believe the media, he knows what he's doing, he's  generating money for his business as much money he can make, I love Trump because he's  THE ULTIMATE HUSTLER

Kingkeoni

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2016, 04:53:02 AM »
Trump says he is pro 2nd amendment but I think he just did us all a disservice to suggest that we would or should assassinate Clinton.

Hillary Clinton has had more people assassinated than any politician in history.

I wouldn't put it past Trump to suggest such a thing knowing that there is a chance some lunatic would actually carry it out. Having said that, yes it was probably a joke, but not the kind of joke to make as president.

History has proven that the lunatics and mass shooters are democrats, not republicans.

One former CIA director said in a TV interview that at a certain position in power, you aren't just responsible for what you say but also for what people hear. That is a lesson Trump seems to have no concept of.

To say that you are responsible for everyone's thoughts is the most idiotic and asinine thing I've ever heard.

I am starting to wonder if Trump really does have some sort of mental disorder. Not a serious one but something.

I've often wondered the same thing about you.
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

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Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2016, 06:07:51 AM »
Gentlemen what Trump said about the people who uphold the second amendment  is open for interpretation, for instance some of us see the glass half full and some of us see the glass half empty. Trump has to clarify what he's saying , it's as simple as that, he has faults but he has to do a better job at getting his message to the people voting for him and not say something that's open to interpretation.
Trump did already. But for the leftist media pigs it is too late and it doesn't matter what Trump says. They are running with his original statement and interpretting it the way they want even if it is a lie.
I hate Hillary.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2016, 07:26:15 AM »
You all remember Romney's:

Binders full of women
Dog on top of the family car
Business deal caused a woman to die of cancer
use of a KKK phrase at rallies (misquoted his "keep America America" as "keep America American")

Anything and everything the media can use against a Republican, they will, including his/her own words (or a close facsimile!).

The media makes mountains out of mole hills.  They try to inflate minor gaffs or phrases out of context into national news instead of covering THE ISSUES.  That's usually because the issues don't sway voters -- emotions do.

There are some very emotion-driven people on here, too.  They SAY they are logical and use reasoning to form opinions, but their rhetoric when it comes to issues like this Trump 8-word phrase shows they are as emotional and closed-minded as any Liberal who takes everything said as a dog whistle or "slip up", exposing some hidden feelings in the speaker.

So much time spent by the press on this non-issue, and nowhere near as much on topics that really matter. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Rocky

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2016, 10:53:42 AM »
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=24377.0
Take it from a pro.
Here's what I think he meant and good for him !  :thumbsup:

“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

robtmc

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2016, 12:24:51 PM »
There are some very emotion-driven people on here, too.  They SAY they are logical and use reasoning to form opinions, but their rhetoric when it comes to issues like this Trump 8-word phrase shows they are as emotional and closed-minded as any Liberal
Agendas and job requirements can be like that.  Has to produce results, so attempting to provoke is part of the job.

troy tanaka

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2016, 01:30:13 PM »
Trump is calling Obama the creator of Isis and trump is standing by his words he's not changing his answer, but we all know he's wrong, he's a businessman generating money, his election is paying his company off, and the people are giving him money hahahahahahaa, maybe I should run for office and do that get everyone mad at rail and contribute money to me so I can rent my company Ferrari to my campaign and pay my company to have my employees come work for me while getting the people who hate rail give me money at the same time shoot my self in the foot so I don't run for office wow that's smart, ain't that great,the way the man thinks, that's a great businessman I love Trump THE ULTIMATE HUSTLER

ren

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2016, 02:27:32 PM »
Trump is calling Obama the creator of Isis and trump is standing by his words he's not changing his answer, but we all know he's wrong, he's a businessman generating money, his election is paying his company off, and the people are giving him money hahahahahahaa, maybe I should run for office and do that get everyone mad at rail and contribute money to me so I can rent my company Ferrari to my campaign and pay my company to have my employees come work for me while getting the people who hate rail give me money at the same time shoot my self in the foot so I don't run for office wow that's smart, ain't that great,the way the man thinks, that's a great businessman I love Trump THE ULTIMATE HUSTLER
Before you do all that may I suggest Kumon? Writing improvement  :thumbsup:
Deeds Not Words

troy tanaka

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2016, 02:46:25 PM »
Thank you for your criticism ren I keep and open mind and try everyday to better myself because in life one try to get better at what one does or the will to get better so thank you for pointing that out to me I am humble by your knowledge of this great language we call English or pidgin English if your not bias of the fact I'm trying hard to better myself and my writing to improve one self , ps don't drink the hatorade

ren

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2016, 04:07:37 PM »
Thank you for your criticism ren I keep and open mind and try everyday to better myself because in life one try to get better at what one does or the will to get better so thank you for pointing that out to me I am humble by your knowledge of this great language we call English or pidgin English if your not bias of the fact I'm trying hard to better myself and my writing to improve one self , ps don't drink the hatorade
all you need is a period somewhere.
Deeds Not Words

Kingkeoni

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2016, 04:44:20 PM »
Thank you for your criticism ren.I keep and open mind and try everyday to better myself, because in life one trytries to get better at what one does or the will to get better so thank you for pointing that out to me.
I am humbled by your knowledge of this great language we call English or pidgin English. If youryou're not bias of the fact I'm trying hard to better myself and my writing to improve one's self. , ps don't drink the hatorade

Here you go brah, I hooked you up so Ren and his Punahou education won't get you.  :geekdanc:
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

troy tanaka

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2016, 05:32:23 PM »
 Thanks Kingkeoni for helping me, I appreciate the help. 2ahawaii people working together to protect the second amendment and each other, that's what this is about. :shaka:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2016, 11:10:35 PM »
CNN reported several times the day after the Trump rally and his comment that the SECRET SERVICE had spoken to Trump's campaign about his comment and how they might endanger Clinton.

Trump tweeted that was a made-up "fact" by CNN in an effort to boost their ratings.

Now Reuters apparently confirmed no one in the Trump camp was ever contacted by the Secret Service.   

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A federal official on Wednesday said the U.S. Secret Service had not formally spoken with Republican Donald Trump’s presidential
campaign regarding his suggestion a day earlier that gun rights activists could stop Democratic rival Hillary Clinton from curtailing their access to firearms.

Regardless of that fact, CNN continued to try and beat that dead horse ....

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“A US Secret Service official confirms to CNN that the USSS has spoken to the Trump campaign regarding his Second Amendment comments.
There has been more than one conversation on the topic… “

However, roughly a half-hour later, Reuters contradicted CNN and reported that no such conversation with the Trump camp had ever taken place.

Clinton
News
Network

Disgusting liars all!!

http://dennismichaellynch.com/highlight-one/busted-cnn-fabricated-secret-service-story-about-trump/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2016, 09:05:17 AM »
I think we will lose most of our 2A rights come November....
unless the NRA becomes a big donor to the Clinton Foundation.
Deeds Not Words

Jl808

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2016, 09:33:19 AM »
I think we will lose most of our 2A rights come November....
unless the NRA becomes a big donor to the Clinton Foundation.

I don't think appeasing the witch will help.
I think, therefore I am armed.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2016, 12:24:37 PM »
Hillary Clinton has had more people assassinated than any politician in history.

Wouldn't surprise me but still irrelevant.

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History has proven that the lunatics and mass shooters are democrats, not republicans.

No one is talking about mass shootings.

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To say that you are responsible for everyone's thoughts is the most idiotic and asinine thing I've ever heard.

In a position of leadership that is exactly what happens. Conservatives ridicule Obama left and right for his comments which do no explicitly say something but imply something. He get attacked for weak foreign policy and that is exactly what he is criticized for, comments which the enemy doesn't think strong enough.

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I've often wondered the same thing about you.

Nice avoidance. Red herring.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2016, 12:54:01 PM »
Wouldn't surprise me but still irrelevant.

No one is talking about mass shootings.

In a position of leadership that is exactly what happens. Conservatives ridicule Obama left and right for his comments which do no explicitly say something but imply something. He get attacked for weak foreign policy and that is exactly what he is criticized for, comments which the enemy doesn't think strong enough.

Nice avoidance. Red herring.

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"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam."
-- President Obama, 2012, UN Speech

Yeah, I can see how that can be misunderstood.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Heavies

Re: Trump and the second amendment
« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2016, 01:40:23 PM »
It's not that anyone was talking of mass shootings, the point is, if any political group/individual were to 'read' into a statement, and take violent action, history would show the person or persons would be on democrat side of the center.