ULTIMATE CONSPIRACY THEORY ? (Read 4920 times)

Rocky

ULTIMATE CONSPIRACY THEORY ?
« on: August 17, 2016, 10:26:45 AM »
Got this from a friend, not sure if it's true, sounds Snope-able (they've been idiots as of late) but Holy $hit !


The following was forwarded to me by retired military officers.  It's quite a stretch of the imagination, but a scary thought nonetheless because its plausible.  And it doesn't require that Martial Law be declared to keep Obama in the White House!  It may be the ultimate conspiracy theory!
 
Gary
 

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Here’s a very scary thought….
 
I had to take my vehicle to the mechanic the other day for service.  The Service Manager, Pete, gave me a ride home and on the way he told me his theory about the upcoming election and the next four years of U.S. government. 
 
At first I thought it a bit far-fetched.  But as I listened to him it began to make sense, scary sense....
 
“I believe that Hillary Clinton will win the election in November,” Pete began.  “Then, sometime between November and [Friday, Jan. 20, 2017], Hillary will be indicted. The IRS is now investigating the Clinton Foundation and the whole e-mail thing isn’t over yet.”
 
“Once under indictment she won’t be able to assume the Office of the President in January. Tim Kaine, who will not actually be the Vice President because neither he nor Hillary have been inaugurated, cannot assume the Presidency.”
 
“The Speaker of the House can’t move up to it because there is already a sitting President and Vice President.  So President Obama, in an Executive Order citing “emergency situation,” gives himself another four years in office as the only way possible.”
 
Pete believes Obama has been planning this for a while now, knowing he has enough on Hillary to indict her.  Had the Attorney General indicted her based on evidence from the FBI this plan wouldn’t have worked because the DNC would have quickly come up with another candidate
 
If you think about it, it’s not that outrageous.  Many people on the left, including the President [surprised?], want Obama to stay another four years.  The law prohibits him from being re-elected so the only two ways he can do it is by:
1) declaring martial law and suspending the election (which would be a very negative thing for the country), or
2) to declare himself still President because the elected candidate cannot assume her duties.  :shake: :shake: :shake:
 
The latter makes more sense and is actually more feasible.  And since it’s never been done before, it would set a precedent that would be difficult to challenge. 
 
Of course, if Trump wins the election none of this is going to happen.
 
But what if Pete is correct?  Four more years of Obama and a mostly useless Republican House and Senate would give Obama the time he needs to continue destroying/changing the country to fit his stated goals.
 
I thanked Pete for the ride home – and for messing up my day.  Now I’ve got more things to worry about!
 
Pete's theory and its outcome are far-fetched, but what if....?  Well worth pondering.
 
 
"The sky is falling, the sky is falling", said Henny Penny
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

London808

Re: ULTIMATE CONSPIRACY THEORY ?
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2016, 10:52:49 AM »
Independently of this, I was having a conversation about the same thing. Whic is that Hillary is sick, She will win the election and before taking office be declared to ill to serve. As an election is only required every 4 years  Obama would simply keep his position for another 4 years.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

FBI

Re: ULTIMATE CONSPIRACY THEORY ?
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2016, 12:03:45 PM »
Independently of this, I was having a conversation about the same thing. Whic is that Hillary is sick, She will win the election and before taking office be declared to ill to serve. As an election is only required every 4 years  Obama would simply keep his position for another 4 years.

As long as she is alive she can be sworn in. So can the POS VP.  If she is too sick to function
so what?  Wilson was a precedent.  His spouse took over.  Today,  Hillary's spouse would "take over".
Our slavish media would not say a thing.  The DC establishment would not make a move.
Democrats and Neo-cons belong in mass shallow graves.

London808

Re: ULTIMATE CONSPIRACY THEORY ?
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2016, 12:12:47 PM »
As long as she is alive she can be sworn in. So can the POS VP.  If she is too sick to function
so what?  Wilson was a precedent.  His spouse took over.  Today,  Hillary's spouse would "take over".
Our slavish media would not say a thing.  The DC establishment would not make a move.
Democrats and Neo-cons belong in mass shallow graves.

Wilson became to sick after he was president, Im talking about Hillary never being sworn in, If shes not sworn in her VP cant become president and her husband cant "Take over". Untill she is sworn in Obama still holds office.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

Heavies

Re: ULTIMATE CONSPIRACY THEORY ?
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2016, 01:51:14 PM »
The speaker of the house would become president per the Presidential Succession Act I would think.

FBI

Re: ULTIMATE CONSPIRACY THEORY ?
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2016, 02:31:24 PM »
Wilson became to sick after he was president, Im talking about Hillary never being sworn in, If shes not sworn in her VP cant become president and her husband cant "Take over". Untill she is sworn in Obama still holds office.

As long as she is alive the POS chief justice Roberts will swear her in.
Even if she is convulsing, defecating,  and writhing on the floor, he will
swear her in.

robtmc

Re: ULTIMATE CONSPIRACY THEORY ?
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2016, 03:10:13 PM »
Even if she is convulsing, defecating,  and writhing on the floor,
Sounds like some of the reports I have read of her behavior at campaign events................

eyeeatingfish

Re: ULTIMATE CONSPIRACY THEORY ?
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2016, 03:12:10 PM »
On the surface it sounds somewhat plausible but I am not sure if the rules would allow that.

For starters, does an indictment really prevent one from being inaugurated?

Secondly, keeping Obama as president would be an unprecedented use of executive orders. I don't think such an order would stand the legal test and I don't think enough people would follow it either.

I think that a clinton indictment would not hold up government. I think Kaine would still be sworn in as vice president  and act as president until Clinton is cleared of limited from being a president. I don't see why Clinton not being inaugurated would hold up Kaine's inauguration.

It would make an entertaining movie though I think.

omnigun

Re: ULTIMATE CONSPIRACY THEORY ?
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2016, 04:23:15 PM »
Innocent to proven guilty I think she would still become president in this scenario.  Takes a while to convict someone.

Surf

Re: ULTIMATE CONSPIRACY THEORY ?
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2016, 05:58:16 PM »
I am not a lawyer but this is what I think is correct.


“I believe that Hillary Clinton will win the election in November,” Pete began.  “Then, sometime between November and [Friday, Jan. 20, 2017], Hillary will be indicted. The IRS is now investigating the Clinton Foundation and the whole e-mail thing isn’t over yet.” I think the only way she might get indicted is if Trump wins and pushes for "more complete" investigations.
 
“Once under indictment she won’t be able to assume the Office of the President in January. Tim Kaine, who will not actually be the Vice President because neither he nor Hillary have been inaugurated, cannot assume the Presidency.” I would think that any indictment prior to November and she may very well drop out.  It might be a political necessity to still attempt to get a Dem in Office.  However any indictment after the Electoral College and becoming President Elect but prior to inauguration will not prevent her from actually taking office.  There will definitely be no conviction prior to January's inauguration.  Also at the point of becoming President and Vice President Elect, if for any reason the President cannot qualify the Vice President takes office interim.
 
“The Speaker of the House can’t move up to it because there is already a sitting President and Vice President.  So President Obama, in an Executive Order citing “emergency situation,” gives himself another four years in office as the only way possible.”Obama will not be the sitting President.  Presidential powers would change hands.  He would need to do something completely "off the books" or made up, to do such a thing AND everyone would have to accept that.
 
 
"The sky is falling, the sky is falling", said Henny Penny Let Pete know that the sky is not actually falling.   ;)