Shooting on Farmland (Read 19609 times)

BananaClip

Shooting on Farmland
« on: December 27, 2011, 04:23:32 AM »
Sorry for the lame question but what's the law concerning shooting firearms on farmland In Hawaii and where can I read about it? Thanks in advance!
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Inspector

Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2011, 05:48:16 AM »
Sorry for the lame question but what's the law concerning shooting firearms on farmland In Hawaii and where can I read about it? Thanks in advance!
I could be wrong here but I'll repeat what a policeman told me on the Big Island. He said shooting on your own land is okay. Just don't let any bullets leave your property or there will be an problem.
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DonRow

Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2011, 06:15:48 AM »
Sorry for the lame question but what's the law concerning shooting firearms on farmland In Hawaii and where can I read about it? Thanks in advance!
I could be wrong here but I'll repeat what a policeman told me on the Big Island. He said shooting on your own land is okay. Just don't let any bullets leave your property or there will be an problem.
no your right. Just don't let the bullets go out. It kinda like hunting on your own farm.
I know many guys who do it here since Kauai doesn't have a gun range here anymore, in fact I'll be flying out to one of those places today and if I see the guy I'll ask him, he also happens to be an investigator for the County PA here.

bass monkey

Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2011, 07:09:33 AM »
As long as its your property or you have permission from the owner should be all good just like they said as long as bullets don't stray. Make sure you have a good backing and all of that kind stuff.

DonRow

Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2011, 07:15:26 AM »
I think, you have to be so much yards away from the road also. I think....

BananaClip

Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2011, 08:46:20 AM »
I think, you have to be so much yards away from the road also. I think....
Thats what I heard also, but how much yards I wonder... My brother inlaw owns a farm in Maili and its up against the mountain.. I think its about 250 to 300yards up a driveway.... By the way thank you for the responses everyone.. I dont wanna be breaking any laws.. I figure they wanna shut down our ranges like lame uneducated people they are, I'll just shoot at his farm...
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GZire

Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2011, 09:35:47 AM »
It would also be good to give the local station a call to inform them you'll be shooting from __ o'clock to __ o'clock.  If they get calls from the neighbors they'll have to investigate, but a call in advance would go a long way to the way in which the officers respond to the calls.

DonRow

Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2011, 09:36:28 AM »
Shít, why not.. Go for it.

Tom_G

Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2011, 11:11:28 AM »
There are no laws regarding shooting on private property.  None.  Which means you are free to do so as you see fit.

There are definitely laws against bullets leaving your property.  Don't do that.

There are noise ordinances to consider.  Look up the specifics, and don't violate them.

If you are visible from a public venue, folks can complain that you are "brandishing" your guns.  Seems like there's a real risk of fines or incarceration, but a high probability of having to stop and talk to some police visitors.

Bottom line, it's legal, but there are still ways for neighbors and passers-by to make it inconvenient.
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Funtimes

Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2011, 11:39:11 AM »
Most noise ordinances are going to be like "sound in duration of xxx time frame greater than xxx decibels."  For example, the dog ordinance is continuous unprovoked barking for five minutes.

The construction one is similar in its five minute duration.  I have not found anything else relating to noise ordinances (that would affect shooting).  There are also noise ordinances for music and stuff, and I believe that is thirty feet.  On a military base, it is three feet..... (really stupid!), considering at night turning a car on would violate the ordinance. 
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BananaClip

Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2011, 07:36:25 PM »
So the answer is cool neighbors.... ;D

That's a pretty good idea GZire, "letting the local station know the scoops."
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Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2011, 10:52:50 PM »
It would also be good to give the local station a call to inform them you'll be shooting from __ o'clock to __ o'clock.  If they get calls from the neighbors they'll have to investigate, but a call in advance would go a long way to the way in which the officers respond to the calls.

FWIW I think this would hurt more than help lol.
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GZire

Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2011, 10:11:46 AM »
It would also be good to give the local station a call to inform them you'll be shooting from __ o'clock to __ o'clock.  If they get calls from the neighbors they'll have to investigate, but a call in advance would go a long way to the way in which the officers respond to the calls.

FWIW I think this would hurt more than help lol.

That is your opinion.  Personally I'd say this is the case on Maui where they tend to taze guys, but on Oahu where they tend to shoot people more than taze them, I'd rather have the LEOs knowing that it is not a deadly force situation when they come en masse to check out the gunfire as reported by some spooked citizen that says there is a shootout happening...............my opinion............ :shaka:

Tom_G

Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2011, 10:25:59 AM »
It would also be good to give the local station a call to inform them you'll be shooting from __ o'clock to __ o'clock.  If they get calls from the neighbors they'll have to investigate, but a call in advance would go a long way to the way in which the officers respond to the calls.

I'm trying to envision how this would work. 

A neighbor calls 911 to report a gunfight.  The 911 operator alerts dispatch to send units. 

Where would I have had to place my phone call so that it fit into that chain of events?  Should I have called 911?  The nearest police station? 

I know of a case when the SWAT team descended en masse on a Boy Scout shooting range at Pupukea, one that had been active for decades.  The fact that they knew the range was there was irrelevant to their response when a newly-moved-in neighbor heard gunfire aed reported an Al-Qaeda training camp.

Not saying that informing the police is a bad idea, far from it.  I think it is sound advice.  But, thinking about how bureaucracies function, I don't know how effective such notification would prove.
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bass monkey

Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2011, 10:37:29 AM »
Call 911 police non emergency. "Yeah I just letting you guys know I going be shooting gun at my farm in .... Case you guys get any calls about gunfire. Hahahhah. I wonder what their response would be.

On a side note, when we about to light our imu we call it in, just in case someone reports a house fire. They seem cool with it, but then again its not gun related.

GZire

Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2011, 01:59:10 PM »
It would also be good to give the local station a call to inform them you'll be shooting from __ o'clock to __ o'clock.  If they get calls from the neighbors they'll have to investigate, but a call in advance would go a long way to the way in which the officers respond to the calls.

I'm trying to envision how this would work. 

A neighbor calls 911 to report a gunfight.  The 911 operator alerts dispatch to send units. 

Where would I have had to place my phone call so that it fit into that chain of events?  Should I have called 911?  The nearest police station? 

I know of a case when the SWAT team descended en masse on a Boy Scout shooting range at Pupukea, one that had been active for decades.  The fact that they knew the range was there was irrelevant to their response when a newly-moved-in neighbor heard gunfire aed reported an Al-Qaeda training camp.

Not saying that informing the police is a bad idea, far from it.  I think it is sound advice.  But, thinking about how bureaucracies function, I don't know how effective such notification would prove.

I guess it is really determined by who is on duty at the time of the call.  The police are required to investigate the gun shots.  My point is that it is better that they are notified ahead of time.  That being said (back to the who is there), sometimes it doesn't matter what you do, the shizzy hits the fan. :wacko:

GZire

Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2011, 02:02:21 PM »
Call 911 police non emergency. "Yeah I just letting you guys know I going be shooting gun at my farm in .... Case you guys get any calls about gunfire. Hahahhah. I wonder what their response would be.

On a side note, when we about to light our imu we call it in, just in case someone reports a house fire. They seem cool with it, but then again its not gun related.

I wouldn't call 911.  I'd call the substation in the area you'd be shooting.  Get the name and rank of the person taking your call and whom you notified ahead of time and whom you notified after you were done shooting.

BananaClip

Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2011, 11:35:05 PM »
You guys got me thinking about the time just about 30 police officers ran toward a mechanic with shotty's, pistols and AR's pointed at him cuz someone called into HPD saying they heard gun shots when the mechanics car was just back firing at Koauka lp. Behind Pali Momi... Maybe I should really meditate on this idea for awhile..........
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kong

Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2011, 08:06:16 AM »
Was searching the City Ordinances as well as HRS and found this interesting tid bit., "Sec. 40-2.3 Prohibitions.
(a) No person shall use or possess with intent to use any shell, cartridge, bomb, gun or other device capable of emitting any
liquid, gaseous or solid substance or any combination thereof, which is injurious to person or property, or which is
nauseous, sickening, irritating or offensive to any of the senses; to injure, molest, discomfort, discommode or coerce
another in the use or control of the individual's person or property.
"

Didn't see anything else on discharge of a firearm on private property or within city/county limits, etc.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2011, 08:14:13 AM by kong »

kala201

Re: Shooting on Farmland
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2011, 09:32:18 AM »
My neighbor goes up to his friend's place in Waialua up along the mountain to shoot.  They don't get hassled by the neighbors or the cops.  I'm not sure how big the property is because everytime they've gone I've had to work  :( .  All I know is that they practice shooting out to 600 yards and have a little golf cart/ATV thing they use to change their targets.