Commie Guns: Using the AK-47 for Zombies (Read 8035 times)

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Commie Guns: Using the AK-47 for Zombies
« on: December 30, 2011, 08:09:20 AM »
Got emailed this article...............discuss:


http://www.gunsandammo.com/2011/12/29/ak-47-for-zombies/



It never fails: Start a discussion about zombies, guns or calibers, and the AK fans come out of the woodwork. I get it. You love the rifle. And if I were equipping a swarm of illiterate peasants who would receive a day’s worth of instruction, of whom I was unconcerned about casualty rates, I’d equip them with AKs, too.

But I’m not. I’m equipping me, myself and my family/friends, and they all get more than a day’s training. A lot more, if they expect me to be their ammo/weapons and training supply center. I want something ergonomic. If you were to look up “non-ergonomic” in the dictionary, it would have an AK there. Or it should. The thing is a mass of stamped sheet steel, with sharp edges, corners, hand-cutting extras like the folding stock latch, and sights only someone wedded to an SMG could love.

I have a bunch of AKs. The best of them, a Krebs Custom, is almost what an AR in 7.62X39 could be, but isn’t. Marc does a great job of improving the AK, but it takes a lot of work. I love mine, but I recognize its shortcomings.

Invariably, the discussions turn to the power of the 7.62X39 — more like a light-loaded .30-30 than the hammer of Thor — and magazines. Spare me the love letters over 75-round Chicom drums. Have you ever schlepped a rifle so-equipped all day long? Have you ever tried to shoot a rifle with one of those Cantonese goiters attached?

And the regular magazines? I’m all for durability, but do I have a metal shop worth of sheet steel just to have a ready ammo supply? Those things are heavy.

Don’t get me wrong, I recognize it for being a sturdy, reliable rifle that does a good job when needed. But it isn’t the be-all, end-all of defensive small arms. It won’t clear a street full of zombies simply by pointing and pressing the trigger. And don’t tell me it is infinitely more sturdy and reliable than the AR, unless you’re willing to throw yours on the ground and run it over with a full-sized pickup truck — a test ARs will pass, by the way.

Love it if you will, clean it because you must and depend on it, for it won’t let you down. But don’t try to make it more than it is. It isn’t a sniper rifle, it isn‘t a light machine gun and it isn’t ergonomic. But it is an excellent zombie-slayer.

Thoughts?

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Re: Commie Guns: Using the AK-47 for Zombies
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 08:41:06 AM »
Don't forget the Hornady Zombie Max Ammo. I hear that when the ammo is near zombies the green tip glows!  :shake:

I have been trying to confirm this but cant find any Zombies. If you know where any are let me know!  :-*
« Last Edit: December 30, 2011, 08:46:23 AM by SpeedTek »
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Commie Guns: Using the AK-47 for Zombies
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2011, 10:10:30 AM »
after pointing out all the flaws of an AK, his last sentence says its an excellent zombie slayer!? lol..

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Commie Guns: Using the AK-47 for Zombies
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 10:12:14 AM »
Don't forget the Hornady Zombie Max Ammo. I hear that when the ammo is near zombies the green tip glows!  :shake:

I have been trying to confirm this but cant find any Zombies. If you know where any are let me know!  :-*

try looking down the street from x-ring when the sun goes down... lots of zombies!

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Re: Commie Guns: Using the AK-47 for Zombies
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 11:21:08 AM »
It seems that the writer of that article has mad love for the AK type rifles.

I think his point is that AK fanatics seem to think that their rifle of choice is miles better than anything else on the market today.

I am a big believer in the AK47 platform of rifles. I do however beloeve that there are plenty of other rifle platforms out there that do "just as well" in SHTF scenarios.

My belief is this... Find a reliable platform that you're comfortable with. Then practice, practice, practice.
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Re: Commie Guns: Using the AK-47 for Zombies
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 11:27:42 AM »
Don't forget the Hornady Zombie Max Ammo. I hear that when the ammo is near zombies the green tip glows!  :shake:

I have been trying to confirm this but cant find any Zombies. If you know where any are let me know!  :-*

try looking down the street from x-ring when the sun goes down... lots of zombies!

Unfortunately they are still considered alive! so not worth going to jail for!
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Re: Commie Guns: Using the AK-47 for Zombies
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 12:14:22 PM »
My belief is this... Find a reliable platform that you're comfortable with. Then practice, practice, practice.
"A well trained person with a 10/22 is more lethal than a nimrod with a full auto M16"

+1 The plain and simple truth - practice makes perfect.  One can't just expect to pick up a gun and expect to blow zombie heads off one shot one kill style without practice.  No matter how fancy your gun it still boils down to the operator.

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Re: Commie Guns: Using the AK-47 for Zombies
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 12:45:19 PM »
Don't forget the Hornady Zombie Max Ammo. I hear that when the ammo is near zombies the green tip glows!  :shake:

I have been trying to confirm this but cant find any Zombies. If you know where any are let me know!  :-*

try looking down the street from x-ring when the sun goes down... lots of zombies!

Unfortunately they are still considered alive! so not worth going to jail for!

Zombies have rights too!
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Re: Commie Guns: Using the AK-47 for Zombies
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 02:58:28 PM »
The non-ergo factor is why I don't own an AK.  I've shot many varieties, for, as far as I can tell, I am the only shooter on the planet who doesn't own one, and everyone else keeps trying to convert me.  I love the caliber.  I love the reliability.  But I do not like those wrist-twisting, cheek-biting, knuckle-scraping sons of bitches.

My SKS is one of my favorite guns.  It is, IMHO, a far superior tool to the AK.  The notable exception is the lack of interchangeable box magazines.  And the duck-bills do NOT count.

I think I would also love a Saiga.  But, at least today, I'm not on a 7.62x39 kick, so that's on the "B" list for acquisition.

Personally, my preferred SHTF / zombie apocalypse gun is the M1 carbine.  15 or 30 round mags are cheap, and fully loaded, are roughly 1/3 the size and weight of an equal-capacity AK mag.  Plenty of stopping power, low recoil for quick follow-up shots, small, light, quick, tough, reliable, and pretty darned accurate out to 200 yards.  Oh, and they come with bayonet mounts for slipping up behind zombie sentries without alerting the whole horde.
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Re: Commie Guns: Using the AK-47 for Zombies
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 03:41:47 PM »
I don't own, nor will I ever buy, an AK-47. I am the one percent.
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Re: Commie Guns: Using the AK-47 for Zombies
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2011, 10:03:13 PM »
Personally, my preferred SHTF / zombie apocalypse gun is the M1 carbine.  15 or 30 round mags are cheap, and fully loaded, are roughly 1/3 the size and weight of an equal-capacity AK mag.  Plenty of stopping power, low recoil for quick follow-up shots, small, light, quick, tough, reliable, and pretty darned accurate out to 200 yards.  Oh, and they come with bayonet mounts for slipping up behind zombie sentries without alerting the whole horde.

30 carbine ammo........check
mags...................................check
M1 Carbine with bayonet.........check
I'm all set!   lol!
 :crazy:

but seriously, I like ak's and alot of older guns more than (most) new tech guns for the same reason I'd choose a 69 Chevelle SS over a Porche/BMW/Skyline, ect.      It's got that classic vibe that new stuff just don't have. 
I don't really get the whole ergo issue, I think AK's are pretty comfortable to shoot. 

On a side note:  I went to x-ring today to check it out.  I've never been down that road in waipahu before, reminded me of ................Favela..... :o       
The shop was ok though.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2011, 10:29:34 PM by Pit808 »
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Re: Commie Guns: Using the AK-47 for Zombies
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2012, 03:42:42 PM »
I'm a easy going type a guy... I like everykind of firearm...but AK's float my boat...

Theres a lot of "obvious" reasons why people like and dont like AK's

I have the best answer for someone that asks me why I like AK's...

I don't know why, I just do.....

 :stopjack:

 In a messy situation I would grab my Sig 516 my Arsenal slr-106 and my 1911... Maybe not ideal but thats what I have.
Or maybe my Sig 516 my AMD65 & 1911...

Shootz I dont know, I probably wont do very well in a messy situation...
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Re: Commie Guns: Using the AK-47 for Zombies
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2012, 05:58:08 PM »
I'm a easy going type a guy... I like everykind of firearm...but AK's float my boat...

Theres a lot of "obvious" reasons why people like and dont like AK's

I have the best answer for someone that asks me why I like AK's...

I don't know why, I just do.....

 :stopjack:

 In a messy situation I would grab my Sig 516 my Arsenal slr-106 and my 1911... Maybe not ideal but thats what I have.
Or maybe my Sig 516 my AMD65 & 1911...

Shootz I dont know, I probably wont do very well in a messy situation...

Yup he is pretty passionate about his AK's........ :wtf:
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Re: Commie Guns: Using the AK-47 for Zombies
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2012, 08:29:26 PM »
I'm a easy going type a guy... I like everykind of firearm...but AK's float my boat...

Theres a lot of "obvious" reasons why people like and dont like AK's

I have the best answer for someone that asks me why I like AK's...

I don't know why, I just do.....

 :stopjack:

 In a messy situation I would grab my Sig 516 my Arsenal slr-106 and my 1911... Maybe not ideal but thats what I have.
Or maybe my Sig 516 my AMD65 & 1911...

Shootz I dont know, I probably wont do very well in a messy situation...

Yup he is pretty passionate about his AK's........ :wtf:
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