Ordering Ammo Online (Read 16845 times)

changemyoil66

Ordering Ammo Online
« on: October 23, 2016, 08:02:30 PM »
Any laws that prevent me from ordering ammo online from another state and having it shipped to my office/home?

Did a search for about 15 mins and couldn't find anything.  Looked up HRS134 statues and didn't find anything about ammunition crossing state lines.

Emailed ask HPD and it's been about 3 business days now. 

ren

Re: Ordering Ammo Online
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2016, 08:04:40 PM »
Deeds Not Words

suka

Re: Ordering Ammo Online
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2016, 08:30:44 PM »
Federal Laws prevents HPD to prohibit / regulate Interstate Commerce .
Be prepared to pay Hazmat fees as well as finding a  fright forwarder willing to ship ammunition and powder with a valid UN number. Unable to ship via ORM-D.

Heavies

Re: Ordering Ammo Online
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2016, 08:36:33 PM »
Yep. We, in hawaii, are pretty much priced out of ordering ammo online.

Unless a huge bulk order is made the cost of hazmat and shipping makes it too costly.   

Aloha808

Re: Ordering Ammo Online
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2016, 08:41:15 PM »
Its perfectly legal to have ammo shipped to your house in all states except for New York and another one or two, due to anti gun legislation.  The reason why companies don't allow online ammo purchases to Hawaii and Alaska is because of the hazmat fee. Airlines wont allow ammo, powder and primer due to it being flammable.  Only way would be to ship it by pallet on a freight which is how the gun stores in Hawaii get their ammo.  That's why if you compare ammo and firearm prices in Hawaii to the rest of the country, they're higher because they have to pay more to ship everything here.  Some places actually pay the hazmat such as the CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program), except they don't have a big selection and their prices aren't special.

TLDR: Yes you can have ammo shipped to your house, but almost no one will, unless you buy a pallet.

changemyoil66

Re: Ordering Ammo Online
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2016, 09:06:56 AM »
Update for noobs like myself.

Just got a few responses back from different ammo companies and they have to ground ship their ammo per regulations.  So only 48 states they ship to.

Damn the price we pay to live in paradise.

FBI

Re: Ordering Ammo Online
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2016, 11:02:24 AM »
I start out saying;
I never violate any local, state, or federal laws.
Nor would I do anything that is un-safe.
You can get anything you want,  you just have to be creative,
for example UPS for political reasons won't ship pistols, but
they ship "tools".
Matson will ship reloading components.
You and I call them Winchester super X.
Most restrictions are of a political nature.
Treat them as anything political needs to
be treated, but don't break the law.


 

eyeeatingfish

Re: Ordering Ammo Online
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2016, 04:12:31 PM »
Lightbulb!

Since only a large order (pallet size?) makes it worthwhile, what if we set up some sort of group buy? 20 guys could probably order enough to fill up a pallet and save money.

I knew a guy who used to order ammo on pallets and he would sell it at the gun shows. He said the profit margin isn't as good anymore so he stopped. I have no idea how much we would save over regular store prices. It is always good to support our gun shops though.

suka

Re: Ordering Ammo Online
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2016, 04:44:29 PM »
Ocean Freight        $20.70
Hazmat Flat Fee    $ 270
Warfage                 $ 2.70
Hazard Class Fee  $20
Fuel Surcharge      $9.38
Terminal Fee          $1.90
HI Charges              $43
HI Tax                    $2.03

Your Total        $386.21

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zippz

Re: Ordering Ammo Online
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2016, 04:57:51 PM »
Is the Hazmat fee per pallet or per order?

suka

Re: Ordering Ammo Online
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2016, 05:31:04 PM »
Is the Hazmat fee per pallet or per order?


per shipment of 1 pallet 250lb or less.

Aloha808

Re: Ordering Ammo Online
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2016, 05:48:13 PM »
For reference, 1000 rounds of 5.56 weighs 27 pounds.

Also assuming I'm doing this right, you could purchase 9 cases of 5.56 to be just under 250 pounds. Then you'd add that $386 hazmat/shipping fee? Taking that into account I see why stores have to charge more and people don't do the pallet orders.

zippz

Re: Ordering Ammo Online
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2016, 06:13:14 PM »
For reference, 1000 rounds of 5.56 weighs 27 pounds.

Also assuming I'm doing this right, you could purchase 9 cases of 5.56 to be just under 250 pounds. Then you'd add that $386 hazmat/shipping fee? Taking that into account I see why stores have to charge more and people don't do the pallet orders.

Does seem very low weight for an order, but could be right.  About 4 cents per round for fees and shipping and the stores don't make much money off of case sales.

I can see how it's a big benefit for powder and primer sales though.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Ordering Ammo Online
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2016, 07:55:02 PM »
I imagine the shipping fees per bullet would go down the larger the order size. I know some guy who brings in pallets of paintballs and sells it cheaper than the stores. No hazard fee of course and not as heavy but he does it just to save money I think.