http://www.kitv.com/story/33377824/poll-if-the-election-were-held-today-which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for

as being a Smurf state I'm surprised.

as being a Smurf state I'm surprised.

Will be curious if they show the final results.  Liberal outlets are notorious for hiding polls when they do not like the results.

Online polls mean nothing.

Maybe bernie folks will stay home?

Online polls mean nothing.

All polls mean nothing.  I can take a poll on any subject and make the results come out the way I want to.  All I would have to do is poll the right people.

All polls mean nothing.  I can take a poll on any subject and make the results come out the way I want to.  All I would have to do is poll the right people.

In theory yes but in practice no. For any reputable news agency or polling agency they have a distinct interest in being as accurate as possible. Think about it, these companies that do polls are private companies and they have to make a living. If a company consistently made bad polls then people wouldn't likely continue to patronize the business. Would you listen to a weather man who was wrong more than right?

I don't know if a smaller business like KITV puts in the work to get it right, but merely dismissing the science of polling altogether simply isn't accurate.

I consider the news media to be more slanted and biased than accurate.  The Star Advertiser is a prime example.  Unfortunately most of the media is controlled by liberals.

I consider the news media to be more slanted and biased than accurate.  The Star Advertiser is a prime example.  Unfortunately most of the media is controlled by liberals.

Not all polling agencies are media though.

Zero Hedge has been running some great articles about how the media tweaks polls by oversampling. It really does have an effect on elections. Some people vote for who they think will win. It's insane, but true.

Here's an interesting one from today. Looks like the sliding stock market could be giving Trump the nod. We'll see if they pull out the dirty tricks like how Bush beat Gore thanks to supreme court and other WTF moments in our system of Electoral Dysfunction. Everybody cheats here. People only care about honesty based on if they are winning or not.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-04/market-indicator-gives-trump-86-chance-winning-election

I consider the news media to be more slanted and biased than accurate.  The Star Advertiser is a prime example.  Unfortunately most of the media is controlled by liberals.

More like... most of the media is controlled by certain people who want to foster a liberal mindset among the masses.

In theory yes but in practice no. For any reputable news agency or polling agency they have a distinct interest in being as accurate as possible. Think about it, these companies that do polls are private companies and they have to make a living. If a company consistently made bad polls then people wouldn't likely continue to patronize the business. Would you listen to a weather man who was wrong more than right?

I don't know if a smaller business like KITV puts in the work to get it right, but merely dismissing the science of polling altogether simply isn't accurate.

  You lost your argument as soon a s you mentioned "reputable news agency ". 
As for "Would you listen to a weather man who was wrong more than right?", have you ever heard of Hawaii's #1 Severe Weather man, Guy Hagi ?   

The media are simply political puppets and this time around they are controlled by the libs. 

  You lost your argument as soon a s you mentioned "reputable news agency ". 
As for "Would you listen to a weather man who was wrong more than right?", have you ever heard of Hawaii's #1 Severe Weather man, Guy Hagi ?   

The media are simply political puppets and this time around they are controlled by the libs. 

Not all polling agencies are news agencies. Companies that do polls as a primary source of business have a vested interest in being accurate as possible. I am not defending KITV here, I am arguing against the idea that claims that polling is never accurate or cannot be accurate.

As far as polls being made purposefully biased this can be a double edged sword.  Lets say CNN slanted a poll favoring Hillary. Does this convince more people to vote for Hillary or does it backfire and make more Trump supporters get out and vote?

Polls are always biased,

Oh man, here we go again. blahbablahbablahblah.

Trump is the God Emporer