The Bill has yet to receive a Bill number.

Hudson Bill Helps Residents of Anti-gun States .....

The Hudson bill is a breakthrough in two important respects.

First, it recognizes the 12 Constitutional Carry states and encourages other states to join them. 

Second, the Hudson bill benefits citizens of anti-gun states who get permits from pro-gun states.

So if a gun owner living in Hawaii, California, New Jersey, or New York gets a carry permit from Utah, then he or she will be able to carry a firearm in any state in the country!


The Hudson Bill will be introduced next month on the Floor and Trump has stated that he will push  the Bill and sign within his first 90 days in office.

The Bill has yet to receive a Bill number.

Hudson Bill Helps Residents of Anti-gun States .....

The Hudson bill is a breakthrough in two important respects.

First, it recognizes the 12 Constitutional Carry states and encourages other states to join them. 

Second, the Hudson bill benefits citizens of anti-gun states who get permits from pro-gun states.

So if a gun owner living in Hawaii, California, New Jersey, or New York gets a carry permit from Utah, then he or she will be able to carry a firearm in any state in the country!


The Hudson Bill will be introduced next month on the Floor and Trump has stated that he will push  the Bill and sign within his first 90 days in office.

and the dems have declared that one of their number one priorities is to stop any national right to carry bills...

In Hudson’s opinion, the bill has a very good chance of getting passed.



“In the last Congress that’s about to end, in 48 hours, we had over 200 co-sponsors… so I think passing the House is not going to be a problem and now more importantly… we’ve got a President who supports this freedom,” he said.

In Hudson’s opinion, the bill has a very good chance of getting passed.

“In the last Congress that’s about to end, in 48 hours, we had over 200 co-sponsors… so I think passing the House is not going to be a problem and now more importantly… we’ve got a President who supports this freedom,” he said.

He just left out one minor detail: the Senate. Republicans only have 51 seats, likely 52 after the 12/10/2016 vote in LA, which is not enough (they need 60) to overcome a filibuster by the Dems. The factor everyone is talking about is that in 2018 25 of the 32 Senate seats up for election are Democrats, and 8 of those are from states that just voted for Trump. If they want to hedge their bets they might throw a bone to gun rights advocates and vote for national reciprocity... though Schumer might disown them... or he might see it as a strategically important move to try to retain those seats for the Dems in 2018. Who knows? The waiting is the hardest part...

Here is a copy of the bill:

http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Concealed-Carry-Reciprocity-Act-of-2017-Rep.-Hudson.pdf

Here's a copy of part of the bill (page 2, with line numbers), which reads to me as if you have to have a license from your state of residence (i.e. a Hawaii resident holding a non-resident Utah permit would not be sufficient for a Hawaii resident to carry in Hawaii):

Notwithstanding any provision of the law of any
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State  or  political  subdivision  thereof  (except  as  provided 
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in  subsection  (b)),  a  person  who  is  not  prohibited  by  Fed-
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eral law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiv-
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ing  a  firearm,  who  is  carrying  a  valid  identification  docu-
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ment  containing  a  photograph  of  the  person,  and  who  is 
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carrying a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant
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to  the  law  of  a  State  and  which  permits  the  person  to 
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carry  a  concealed  firearm  or  is  entitled  to  carry  a  con-
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cealed  firearm in  the  State  in  which  the  person  resides, 
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may  possess  or  carry  a  concealed  handgun  (other  than  a 
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machinegun  or  destructive  device)  that  has  been  shipped 
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or  transported  in  interstate  or  foreign  commerce,  in  any 
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State,  other  than  the  State  of  residence  of  the  person, 

The new 2017 version that will be introduced , is still in the works.  It will remove the same State requirements for residents of Hawaii, New York, California and Jersey. 
This due to the fact that these States rarely  issues  permits.

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other  than  the  State  of  residence  of  the  person, 
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The new 2017 version that will be introduced , is still in the works.  It will remove the same State requirements for residents of Hawaii, New York, California and Jersey. 
This due to the fact that these States rarely  issues  permits.

Let's hope so. I wanted to write the Congressman and ask him about it but his website says they won't respond to anyone outside his district. And I'm too lazy to look up a qualifying address...

Im a legal resident in PA,
have a PA resident State ID,
PA permit to carry,
registered handgun in Hawaii,
10 round mag.

As soon as that law takes effect I would be legal to carry in Hawaii.


Would not know if all cops here will comply , and get arrested.

He just left out one minor detail: the Senate. Republicans only have 51 seats, likely 52 after the 12/10/2016 vote in LA, which is not enough (they need 60) to overcome a filibuster by the Dems. The factor everyone is talking about is that in 2018 25 of the 32 Senate seats up for election are Democrats, and 8 of those are from states that just voted for Trump. If they want to hedge their bets they might throw a bone to gun rights advocates and vote for national reciprocity... though Schumer might disown them... or he might see it as a strategically important move to try to retain those seats for the Dems in 2018. Who knows? The waiting is the hardest part...

Just do what the Democrats did, "Nuclear option" change the rule to 51, when you need to cram something through.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option

Just do what the Democrats did, "Nuclear option" change the rule to 51, when you need to cram something through.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option

OR just wait till all the demorats are sitting on the floor pouting or blocking some freeway, then take a vote.
DONE DEAL!

Hawaii will find a way to block this.

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According to the GOA email of today (Friday, December 9, 2016):

[Edit: link to article on GOA website: https://www.gunowners.org/alert1272016a.htm]

Hudson Bill Helps Residents of Anti-gun States from California to New York

The Hudson bill is a breakthrough in two important respects.

First, it recognizes the 12 Constitutional Carry states and encourages other states to join them. 
If a state recognizes the God-given right of its citizens to protect themselves and their families without getting the government's permission, then they can do so in any state in the country.
 
Second, the Hudson bill benefits citizens of anti-gun states who get permits from pro-gun states.
So if a gun owner living in "occupied" California, New Jersey, or New York gets a carry permit from Utah, then he or she will be able to carry a firearm in any state in the country!


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There is no link to the "unnumered bill", so I haven't read the language, but it would definitely have to be different than the above language from Hudson's website link. I can see how the Demorats (not a typo) would want to fight this all the way. Can't have people exercising their constitutionally-guaranteed civil rights if the state public servants have deemed them unworthy.

Whats gonna happen is if hawaii doesnt adapt, visitors who dont understand our culture will be allowed to carry and not any locals.

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Hudson Bill Helps Residents of Anti-gun States from California to New York

I guess Hawaii's not a state.

I guess Hawaii's not a state.

And I guess you are right, because I have won several auctions on EBay over the years and gotten replies from sellers that told me, "Sorry, but we do not ship out of the United States." 

I guess Hawaii's not a state.

It probably shouldn't be a state. Perhaps more appropriately a territory like Guam, you know, where they have "shall issue" CCW.

Here is the view of Charles Nichols (President of California Right to Carry, and litigant of the challenge to California's open carry ban, Nichols v. Brown) on the possibility of a national concealed carry reciprocity law being enacted:

http://newsblaze.com/business/legal/national-concealed-carry-snake-oil-law-will-fail_71008/

Excerpt:

In no particular order, there are a number of obstacles. The first of which is getting a national concealed carry reciprocity bill passed by Congress and signed into law.
.....

I read the bill “preferred” by the NRA and the GOA gun groups. The bill does not have the legal language the courts require to withstand a legal challenge even if the bill were “regulating” an economic area in which the courts have upheld laws in the past under the Commerce Clause.

Another obstacle is that concealed carry is not a right under the Second Amendment or a right under Federal common law. Since June of 2008 we have had three US Supreme Court cases which have reaffirmed that concealed carry is not a right in accordance with a US Supreme Court decision from 1897 which said that prohibitions on concealed carry do not infringe on the Second Amendment.

There is a US Supreme Court decision which discusses the limitations on the authority of the Congress to legislate under the Commerce Clause and why firearms regulations are different from typical commerce clause regulations. I highly recommend that you give it a read. It is United States v. Morrison, 529 US 598 [https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3801442224983217117] (Supreme Court 2000) beginning at 608.

Mr. Trump is not a lawyer and does not pretend to be a legal expert in any area of the law. And yet one can’t throw a paper cup in the Congress without it hitting a lawyer. Lawyers are professional liars. Lawyers who are also politicians are the worst liars of all.

Any congressman who tells you that Congress has the authority to enact a national concealed carry reciprocity bill is either lying to you, or is incompetent, or is one who would remove the last remaining limits on Federal power.

Which makes him evil as well.

Here is the view of Charles Nichols (President of California Right to Carry, and litigant of the challenge to California's open carry ban, Nichols v. Brown) on the possibility of a national concealed carry reciprocity law being enacted:

http://newsblaze.com/business/legal/national-concealed-carry-snake-oil-law-will-fail_71008/

Excerpt:

In no particular order, there are a number of obstacles. The first of which is getting a national concealed carry reciprocity bill passed by Congress and signed into law.
.....

I read the bill “preferred” by the NRA and the GOA gun groups. The bill does not have the legal language the courts require to withstand a legal challenge even if the bill were “regulating” an economic area in which the courts have upheld laws in the past under the Commerce Clause.

Another obstacle is that concealed carry is not a right under the Second Amendment or a right under Federal common law. Since June of 2008 we have had three US Supreme Court cases which have reaffirmed that concealed carry is not a right in accordance with a US Supreme Court decision from 1897 which said that prohibitions on concealed carry do not infringe on the Second Amendment.

There is a US Supreme Court decision which discusses the limitations on the authority of the Congress to legislate under the Commerce Clause and why firearms regulations are different from typical commerce clause regulations. I highly recommend that you give it a read. It is United States v. Morrison, 529 US 598 [https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3801442224983217117] (Supreme Court 2000) beginning at 608.

Mr. Trump is not a lawyer and does not pretend to be a legal expert in any area of the law. And yet one can’t throw a paper cup in the Congress without it hitting a lawyer. Lawyers are professional liars. Lawyers who are also politicians are the worst liars of all.

Any congressman who tells you that Congress has the authority to enact a national concealed carry reciprocity bill is either lying to you, or is incompetent, or is one who would remove the last remaining limits on Federal power.

Which makes him evil as well.

That's premise may be correct.  That is why states can require people to be licensed to carry concealed.

Similarly driving is not a right, and states can require licensing to drive.