so if a person murders someone that is just a violation of law

In some cases it might be a favor to humanity.

As a technicality, by definition murder is illegal.  Homicide on the other hand can be legal in certain instances.

I guess it depends what definitions you use. Some internet definitions:

homicide -- the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another; murder.

murder -- the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

So then what do you call the lawful premeditated killing of one human being by another? Happens a lot in war. Seems to me the dictionary is pretty presumptuous to declare what's lawful and what's not. What do you call killing between animals?

Many legal systems recognize "justifiable homicide", but not any that I know of recognize "justifiable murder". If a homicide is ruled "justifiable", usually the perpetrator suffers no legal consequence, as opposed to "manslaughter" where it is a "lesser violation" than murder, but still has some form of punishment or penalty imposed upon the perpetrator. I'm not sure what legal language is used to refer to recipients and the perpetrators of the "death penalty". Then there is "war"... talk about a can of worms!

 

Go Trump!

...What do you call killing between animals?

Sex or dinner. 

As I said, I don't want to interject myself into your previous conversations. I just wanted to hear your thoughts on how you think there can be murder without any ethical thoughts. And as usual you couldn't come up with anything IMHO. The man who came to the defense of his child could have just as easily committed manslaughter of some sort but murder? In defense of another crime to his child? Hardly can be considered murder. And the upskirt scenario has nothing to do with my question. So neither scenario doesn't answer my question. I was hoping you would have something more realistic and substantial. You don't. So my mind remains unchanged about your unsubstantiated statements. Too bad, I was hoping to learn something.

My thoughts are meaningless to you so I am not sure why you asked for my thoughts. But as I said, I just wanted to hear your thoughts so I can learn something. Unfortunately, I didnt. So I will not interject any more into your previous conversations.

I'm sorry I didn't come up with an answer you agree with, but it is an answer nonetheless. I failed to mention that in the case of the pedophile, the individual was not resisting, he was giving up. I enjoy this type of philosophical discussion but if you do not wish to continue that then so be it.

I'm sorry I didn't come up with an answer you agree with, but it is an answer nonetheless. I failed to mention that in the case of the pedophile, the individual was not resisting, he was giving up. I enjoy this type of philosophical discussion but if you do not wish to continue that then so be it.

Do you have sources for that pedo case?  Who said he was giving up?  How many people witnessed the attack and subsequent homicide? 

What he a friend of yours?

Do you have sources for that pedo case?  Who said he was giving up?  How many people witnessed the attack and subsequent homicide? 

What he a friend of yours?

I already said I do not recall the name of the case. If I could remember it I would reference it.

I already said I do not recall the name of the case. If I could remember it I would reference it.

You remember details like "he was giving up", but not able to Google the case?

Typical.

I don't believe that Trump can be bought.
He is doing what he promised when he campaigned. Not much other politicians do that. They feel the waters for lobbying groups to jump in and see what they can benefit. Trump bumrushed everything and just did it within days of getting into office.

You remember details like "he was giving up", but not able to Google the case?

Typical.

I wasn't talking to you anyway. If inspector wishes further input he is free to ask. You have no genuine interest  anyway so I wont bother to waste my time explaining it to you.

I don't believe that Trump can be bought.
He is doing what he promised when he campaigned. Not much other politicians do that. They feel the waters for lobbying groups to jump in and see what they can benefit. Trump bumrushed everything and just did it within days of getting into office.

He did it sloppy but yes he did it.

And I sure hope Trump won't be bought though he has done an awful lot of buying of politicians so I have no idea where he will go.

He did it sloppy but yes he did it.

And I sure hope Trump won't be bought though he has done an awful lot of buying of politicians so I have no idea where he will go.

That's why a lot of people are afraid. He is THE politician who has done the buying. Not much of that. Its usually the other way around. The Clintons had their hands in his pocket. Their followers should be aware of that.

That's why a lot of people are afraid. He is THE politician who has done the buying. Not much of that. Its usually the other way around. The Clintons had their hands in his pocket. Their followers should be aware of that.

The way I look at it is that politicians are the dirty ones. They are accepting bribes, businessmen are offering either because they can or because they have to to compete. It is the job of the politician to reject the money. Businessmen wouldn't have to continue to bribe if politicians didn't continue to accept.

The way I look at it is that politicians are the dirty ones. They are accepting bribes, businessmen are offering either because they can or because they have to to compete. It is the job of the politician to reject the money. Businessmen wouldn't have to continue to bribe if politicians didn't continue to accept.

Again, that's why I like Trump. He is the one in control of these politicians. I believe he is truly in it for the people. He is the one holding onto the passes to the gravy train but he is possessing it with the people in mind first.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/12/21/after-meeting-with-trump-boeing-ceo-relents-on-cost-of-air-force-one/?utm_term=.a628f1c13fdb

What do you do with a person that can't be bought?

Again, that's why I like Trump. He is the one in control of these politicians. I believe he is truly in it for the people. He is the one holding onto the passes to the gravy train but he is possessing it with the people in mind first.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/12/21/after-meeting-with-trump-boeing-ceo-relents-on-cost-of-air-force-one/?utm_term=.a628f1c13fdb

What do you do with a person that can't be bought?

I am not convinced that he can't be bought. I think Trump is good intentioned for the most part but I am afraid that sometimes his good intentions might lead him down the wrong path. But again, hope for the best but be ready for the worst.

I wasn't talking to you anyway. If inspector wishes further input he is free to ask. You have no genuine interest  anyway so I wont bother to waste my time explaining it to you.

If we were only allowed to respond to people who addressed us directly, well then, you wouldn't be included in 99% of the threads you post in, would you?

But, it would be a lot more peaceful!  Maybe you should only speak when spoken to, like a good boy!?   

I find it sad and ironic at the same time that soooo many Presidents or politicians for that matter make so many campaign promises just to get elected but are fully aware that they cannot or don't have the intention of actually fulfilling them.  EVERYONE and I mean everyone knew exactly what President Trumps campaign promises were, or could have easily pulled them up with a simple Google search.  His lists for SCOTUS, potential cabinet members he was looking at, policies, etc, was all out there.  His transparency prior to actually being elected was virtually unmatched from what I can recall of any other politician or Presidential candidate.  No wishy washy political maybes, but he was very clear as in "I will do _____".  Now that he actually got elected, people seem shocked that he is actually doing EXACTLY what he campaigned on.  This is like some kind of shock to the system, "you mean he is actually doing what he campaigned that he would do"?  Oh the irony.

I find it even more ironic that President Trump is doing many things that the Democrat party had promised or supported but the more that those things look like a reality the Dems are now furious.  Probably because they were full of crap and President Trump is going to make them look bad.  This is causing such a visceral reaction and in typical far left fashion they are doing a deflection and misdirection of their failures in an attempt to shift negative focus on President Trump.  The childlike behavior that they are exhibiting is sad.  The Dems are only digging their already deep hole even deeper.  IMO they are taking the very wrong, but not unexpected reaction to the devastation of their political party.  The only way they succeed is if good people stand by and do nothing.  It is up to all those who supported this change of watch to be vigilant and unwavering in their support for what America voted for.  The work isn't finished, it has only begun.  There is no time to sit back and think our work is done, so keep in the fight. 

As for politics and business, pay to play has been around as long as you have had money, business and politicians.  Hell it goes back to the stone age.  While many accept the corruption aspect, many really have no idea how deep it truly runs in modern politics at ALL levels, from local all the way to the Federal gov. 

I find it sad and ironic at the same time that soooo many Presidents or politicians for that matter make so many campaign promises just to get elected but are fully aware that they cannot or don't have the intention of actually fulfilling them.  EVERYONE and I mean everyone knew exactly what President Trumps campaign promises were, or could have easily pulled them up with a simple Google search.  His lists for SCOTUS, potential cabinet members he was looking at, policies, etc, was all out there.  His transparency prior to actually being elected was virtually unmatched from what I can recall of any other politician or Presidential candidate.  No wishy washy political maybes, but he was very clear as in "I will do _____".  Now that he actually got elected, people seem shocked that he is actually doing EXACTLY what he campaigned on.  This is like some kind of shock to the system, "you mean he is actually doing what he campaigned that he would do"?  Oh the irony.

I find it even more ironic that President Trump is doing many things that the Democrat party had promised or supported but the more that those things look like a reality the Dems are now furious.  Probably because they were full of crap and President Trump is going to make them look bad.  This is causing such a visceral reaction and in typical far left fashion they are doing a deflection and misdirection of their failures in an attempt to shift negative focus on President Trump.  The childlike behavior that they are exhibiting is sad.  The Dems are only digging their already deep hole even deeper.  IMO they are taking the very wrong, but not unexpected reaction to the devastation of their political party.  The only way they succeed is if good people stand by and do nothing.  It is up to all those who supported this change of watch to be vigilant and unwavering in their support for what America voted for.  The work isn't finished, it has only begun.  There is no time to sit back and think our work is done, so keep in the fight. 

As for politics and business, pay to play has been around as long as you have had money, business and politicians.  Hell it goes back to the stone age.  While many accept the corruption aspect, many really have no idea how deep it truly runs in modern politics at ALL levels, from local all the way to the Federal gov.

I agree totally.  The whole thing about him sticking to his promises is what scares the bejeebus out of both Republicans and Democrats -- they ARE the swamp he's going to drain!  McCain needs to be the first one out of the water, too!

He's been in office a month and 5 days.  In that time, he's done more than Obama did in four years.  Most of what he's doing doesn't get reported on, because the MSM is focusing on immigration and insults (Fake News).   It's great!

I've always said, I'd rather have a man in office whose values I know than one who promises the world but hides his character.  No matter what any one finds about Trump to talk about, I look at his successes, his generosity, his business sense, and his integrity.  He's going to make America great again, even if he has to drag the naysayers across that finish line against their will!   

Even if you think Trump can possibly be bought, for sure he will be a lot harder to buy than anyone else. Definitely one of his best attributes, there is no downside to this aspect. The other things can maybe be debated.