They really don't like CCW in Hawaii do they?
I did some research based on the info from the AG's office. Attached is the data in PDF and a pic, but I haven't figured out how to add an excel file.

Spread the word...

That's a nice stats sheet, where did you get it from?  Could compare this to another blue state that issues CCW to show the legislators the big difference.

For the firearm rejected permits (212), what do you think are some other reasons for other than legit reasons like felonies?   Like the voided permits stats may look bad to the average person, but it's probably people that didn't pickup their permit in time.

I got all of the information directly from the Hawaii AG website. I had to download all of the years reports from their website and pull the numbers out, but it definitely shows the pattern of a No-Issue state. Only 4 CCW permits issued to private citizens in 17 years is BS.

I am assuming like you that voided applications come from a failure to pick up the permit (another BS rule) in time and the rejected permits may come from unreadable information, bad fingerprints, doctors prescription information (some anti-depressants are used for cholesterol management, but because its categorized as mental health medication....). I'm sure that people who have had felonies have applied also, but most criminals don't care about background checks and permits anyways.

Where all the reports are... http://ag.hawaii.gov/cpja/rs/
I'm waiting on the 2016 in order to update it

I'll have to go look around and compare it to other '"Blue" states. VA, CO & MN are blue but shall issue states. I'm hoping that this years round of changes to the HRS can come to fruition. At least the suppressor ban may be ending.

That's a nice stats sheet, where did you get it from?  Could compare this to another blue state that issues CCW to show the legislators the big difference.

For the firearm rejected permits (212), what do you think are some other reasons for other than legit reasons like felonies?   Like the voided permits stats may look bad to the average person, but it's probably people that didn't pickup their permit in time.

The reports break down the "denials" into broad categories, and then another table of very detailed breakdown due to particular offenses. None of the "denials" are "non-pickups". A "non-pickup" is NOT a "denial". It's all there, in every report.

The legislators in this state couldn't care less what any other state does. In fact, most of them are "proud" that Hawaii has some of the most restrictive laws in the U.S. Just read the amicus brief by the AG for the Peruta en banc: 1. There is no constitutional right to bear arms concealed. 2. There is no constitutional right to bear arms openly. 3. If some court were to decide, mistakenly, that there is a right to bear arms, there is no right to bear arms outside the home or business in any "public area". A "public area" is any place any person is legally allowed to be. 4. Because bearing arms is a danger to "public safety", all "public areas" are "sensitive locations", and Heller said firearms may be banned from "sensitive areas". (Of course Heller said "...sensitive areas, such as schools and public buildings"). If the legislature could get away with banning all firearms (and most other arms not already banned like stun guns, various knives, expandable baton, etc.) most legislators here would celebrate their crowning achievement. There is no "evidence" nor "argument" that could possibly persuade them out of their myopic totalitarian ideology.

I think the overall attitude of the legislature is that they want you (citizens) to depend on them for EVERYTHING.
The Democrats in charge of our little legislature - floating in a sea of red want to empower themselves not their constituents. They are still stuck on Obama's legacy of doling out govt. handouts to the people. They don't believe in the middle class. They believe in another class that is more in line with the lineage of the Democratic party.

Had a guy in my handgun safety class get rejected because he saw a marriage consular 5 years prior. He is divorced now. He need the consuler to sign off, but he was on vacation for 2 weeks. He re applied and got his permits.

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Anyone know when the data for 2016 will be published by the AG's office?

Anyone know when the data for 2016 will be published by the AG's office?

How much time does it take to make a copy of last year's report and change a digit in the year?

 

How much time does it take to make a copy of last year's report and change a digit in the year?

 

Point taken...

Anyone know when the data for 2016 will be published by the AG's office?

The last four years they were released on March 29, 11, 19, and April 3, so I'd suspect any day now. You could email the Chief of Research and Statistics, Crime Prevention and Justice Assistance Division, Hawaii Department of the Attorney General and ask him ("Contact" at bottom of http://ag.hawaii.gov/cpja/rs/specialrpts2013/).

Since he graciously provided me with the raw data in January I'm not going to bug him (or provide his personal email address). It's possible there could be a few minor corrections/revisions, but I don't think one of those will be an increase in the number of CCW licenses granted (i.e. still zero... that would have been pretty difficult to incorrectly indicate on the monthly data sheets submitted by each county police department).

Most of the report is dedicated to firearms permit registrations and denials, with the CCW stats usually taking only a half page at the end of the report.

Point taken...

Funniest thing I read on this forum yet.

 

Or saddest... 

I'll ask the AG as to when they may think about when they might think about the possibility of maybe releasing potential information on all of us crimi....err, firearm owners for 2016.

Wow, I thought we had more people applying than just 15...

You haven't figured it out.  Democrats are not human
and it is a waste of time to talk to them,  much less beg
them for your rights.
Do what you need to do. 

Just wondering if anyone has applied for a CCW with Cary Okimoto as the gatekeeper? I know it's a guaranteed denial but it might make sense to put him on the record as being anti 2A if he's gunning for a permanent spot as HPD top dog.

Somewhat along those lines, does the public have any venue to question the chief of police applicants about their 2A positions, particularly CCW? Or is that up to the second set of gate keepers aka police commissioners.

Just wondering if anyone has applied for a CCW with Cary Okimoto as the gatekeeper? I know it's a guaranteed denial but it might make sense to put him on the record as being anti 2A if he's gunning for a permanent spot as HPD top dog.

Somewhat along those lines, does the public have any venue to question the chief of police applicants about their 2A positions, particularly CCW? Or is that up to the second set of gate keepers aka police commissioners.

The problem is the law is not clearly written.  What's the definition of an "Exceptional circumstance"?  Compared to other states that say you must take X hours of class room instruction.

I'm sure politicians tell the gatekeeper to deny permits also.  That's why if we change the laws, that's a step in the right directions.  There are 3 bills currently purposed this session.

The problem is the law is not clearly written.  What's the definition of an "Exceptional circumstance"?  Compared to other states that say you must take X hours of class room instruction.

I'm sure politicians tell the gatekeeper to deny permits also.  That's why if we change the laws, that's a step in the right directions.  There are 3 bills currently purposed this session.

In general, ambiguous wording is how the state writes laws so the people with power have the latitude to do whatever they want.

There are 3 bills currently purposed this session.

None of those bills got a committee hearing. Thus none of those bills "crossed over" to the other chamber for committee hearings in that chamber. Thus they are all long dead. Almost every single Hawaii legislator violated their oath of office to uphold the constitutions by refusing to support and demand hearings and votes for legislation that would restore the legal exercise of the fundamental individual pre-existing constitutionally-guaranteed right to bear arms.

Year after year it's exactly the same thing. Nothing changes. And there is no reason to believe that it ever will (excepting 1. a federal national reciprocity bill being imposed upon the state (that included non-resident licenses being valid), or 2. some other kind of federal imposition such as withheld funding unless the state creates objective "shall issue" legislation, or 3. SCOTUS miraculously renders a clear, definitive, unambiguous decision that bearing arms outside the home MUST be the legal option of all law-abiding citizens, regardless of which jurisdiction they live in). I recommend against breath holding...

***UPDATE***

Another banner year for permits issued. Up to zero this time

 

And obviously someone forgot to read the memos about pistolas. Change out the muzzle device, pin & weld it, or just sell it before you leave da mainland. There went about $3000 they'll never see again.

     Confiscations
     Three legally prohibited firearms were confiscated by registration personnel statewide in 2016. All three were “assault pistols” as defined by state law.

Quick question if anyone that has been denied ccw. Have you requested a meeting with the chief of police. And ask what is good or extenuating reason.

Quick question if anyone that has been denied ccw. Have you requested a meeting with the chief of police. And ask what is good or extenuating reason.

[I'll post my snark while awaiting an answer from a denied applicant...  ]

An "exceptional case" is like one court's definition of porn: "We can't define it, but we know it when we see it". And you ain't it. Nor is any other person in the state of Hawaii. "It's a big club, and you ain't in it".

Number of Carry Permits in the US Tops 15 Million in 2017


http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/05/dean-weingarten/number-carry-permits-us-tops-15-million-2017/