For those that are confused by what is banned or allowed, here is a simple table:

Federal              State                       Overall Result
Banned              Banned           =     Banned
Banned              Allowed           =     Banned
Allowed              Banned            =    Banned
Allowed              Allowed            =    Allowed

Silencers/suppressors have always been allowed by the Feds, but banned by the State = banned for us possessing.

CCW in Hawaii is allowed by the Feds, and allowed by Hawaii (but not issued) = allowed potentially through the Hudson CCW Reciprocity.

How Constitutional Rights come into play (Roe V Wade, Mcdonald, Heller, etc) is it prevents the Feds and/or State from banning something.

There are some exceptions such as immigration and GMO's.  I believe immigration is set by the constitution to be regulated only by the federal government, not sure about GMO's.

I got one and they really work great....duct tape over my old ladies mouth 

I hope she doesn't read this forum!!! 

For those that are confused by what is banned or allowed, here is a simple table:

Federal              State                       Overall Result
Banned              Banned           =     Banned
Banned              Allowed           =     Banned
Allowed              Banned            =    Banned
Allowed              Allowed            =    Allowed

Silencers/suppressors have always been allowed by the Feds, but banned by the State = banned for us possessing.

CCW in Hawaii is allowed by the Feds, and allowed by Hawaii (but not issued) = allowed potentially through the Hudson CCW Reciprocity.

How Constitutional Rights come into play (Roe V Wade, Mcdonald, Heller, etc) is it prevents the Feds and/or State from banning something.

There are some exceptions such as immigration and GMO's.  I believe immigration is set by the constitution to be regulated only by the federal government, not sure about GMO's.

This is what I've been telling people.  I signed the petition, but they're still illegal in Hawaii.  I signed it to help all 2a people.

All my shooting buddies can chip in as they all bitch about the concussion of my ak when shooting next to me

This is what I've been telling people.  I signed the petition, but they're still illegal in Hawaii.  I signed it to help all 2a people.

That's why "encouraging" our local legislators to grant a hearing and vote for HB1589 (Suppressor legalization for hunting) would complement the federal Hearing Protection Act.

Allowed + Allowed = Allowed (I really hate that word when it comes to the government and my rights!  They use their monopoly of violence to decide whether they will "allow" me to exercise my "rights", which the founders explicitly said pre-exist government! How can I, and why should I, even pretend to have any "respect" for these people?)

I read the bill in full and its a great start. Well written and a good compromise that can be tweaked in the future. I'd gladly pay the fee for a hunting license so I can suppress my Rem 700. My first suggested change would be to allow the use of suppressors at the range. 

Gun control groups turn up volume against suppressor deregulation after shooting

Though a recent high-profile shooting at a Congressional baseball practice did not involve a suppressor,
gun control advocates pose the question “what if it had” in an effort to derail pending reform on the items.

In the aftermath of the shooting that left GOP House Whip Steve Scalise among others critically wounded
at a practice for a charity baseball game, national proponents for increased gun regulations are claiming
the incident could have been worse if the assailant used a suppressor.

So, without any evidence or data to back them up, somehow gun control groups "just know" a silencer would have made the Virginia shooting worse!

LOL!  These people are so obviously ignorant, it's embarrassing!  He had an SKS rifle. 

"Without a suppressor, the sound of a shot from such a gun is 165 decibels. This is more than twice as loud as a jet take-off, if you are 25 meters from the jet.
With a suppressor, the SKS would be about 140db. That’s equivalent to being on an active aircraft carrier deck.”

http://www.guns.com/2017/06/21/gun-control-groups-turn-up-volume-against-suppressor-deregulation-after-shooting/

Comment Section: 
What if he had a suppressor? He would've missed more quietly...that's all.

silencer is not an accurate term as there is some significant amount of noise.
Witnessed an XM3 shot with a suppressor and it was as loud as my Benjamin Disco without its LDC. So equivalent to a 22 short.

silencer is not an accurate term as there is some significant amount of noise.
Witnessed an XM3 shot with a suppressor and it was as loud as my Benjamin Disco without its LDC. So equivalent to a 22 short.

Not my thread!