The Washington Free Beacon Story on Hawaii CCW de facto "No Issue" Policy (Read 3487 times)

punaperson

I've been writing The Washington Free Beacon reporter Stephen Gutowski for nearly a year discussing our plight here in Hawaii re the CCW "no issue" policy. When I wrote him a couple of weeks ago with the new zero issue numbers for 2016 he asked me for more info. After a few more email exchanges he posted this article today. He even posted all the "raw data", the actual monthly submissions of each county police department so all could see he's not just making it up (he got those from state statistician Paul Perrone, not me!  :shake:). I think the best thing about him writing the article is that in the course of his research he contacted SAF's Alan Gottlieb, who is one of the only people that could direct the finances needed to litigate the lawsuit(s) necessary to end the fiasco... not that he will direct such money for such a purpose, but at least someone besides me reminded him of our plight. I hope he was serious about Hawaii being in the crosshairs of the gun rights movement. It's about time.

Hawaii Did Not Issue Any Gun-Carry Permits to Private Citizens in 2016

'It's preposterous'


http://freebeacon.com/issues/hawaii-state-not-issue-single-gun-carry-permit-2016/

Excerpts:

The state of Hawaii did not issue any gun-carry permits to private citizens in 2016, documents released to the Washington Free Beacon on Tuesday show.

Documents submitted by county police to the state's Department of the Attorney General show that every application by a private citizen for a concealed-carry permit was denied in 2016. That makes Hawaii the only state in the country not to issue even a single concealed-carry permit last year.

"All other states have issued permits," said Dr. John Lott Jr. of the Crime Prevention Research Center, which tracks the number of gun-carry permits across the country. "The next lowest state is New Jersey with about 1,200 permits, but half of those are issued to judges and retired police officers. Even D.C. last year had 74 permits for civilians being able to carry."

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"Hawaii keeps defying the United States Supreme Court rulings in Heller and McDonald," Alan Gottlieb of the Second Amendment Foundation said. "It will take getting a Supreme Court ruling to get Hawaii to issue permits. As soon as President Trump gets his nominee seated on the Court, the Hawaii de facto ban will be in the crosshairs of the gun rights movement."

K30l4

Thanks Punaperson.

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changemyoil66

Re: The Washington Free Beacon Story on Hawaii CCW de facto "No Issue" Policy
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2017, 08:29:51 AM »
Thanks for your help on all legal matters that we're violated against.

Jl808

Re: The Washington Free Beacon Story on Hawaii CCW de facto "No Issue" Policy
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2017, 09:55:09 AM »
Thanks for this, punaperson.  Good to see this get some media attention.
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Heavies

Re: The Washington Free Beacon Story on Hawaii CCW de facto "No Issue" Policy
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2017, 10:15:52 AM »
Thank you, will share

FBI

Re: The Washington Free Beacon Story on Hawaii CCW de facto "No Issue" Policy
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2017, 10:36:11 AM »
"Alan Gottlieb of the Second Amendment Foundation said. "It will take getting a Supreme Court ruling to get Hawaii to issue permits. As soon as President Trump gets his nominee seated on the Court, the Hawaii de facto ban will be in the crosshairs of the gun rights movement."

This organization is located in my old stomping grounds.  Alan had some IRS troubles but squared them away.
I'm going to join SAF this year when I re-locate my legal state of residence to WA.  SAF seems to be effective and
I know when I was a member of Washington Arms Collectors, SAF had a lot of interaction with grass root
gun owner organizations( something the NRA isn't quite as good at, I'm a life member BTW)  and those groups
pocketbooks.
Our best bet for Hawaii citizens is getting HR 38 passed.  When I become a Wa state citizen again
at least my representative will listen to me, unlike the Hawaiian critters that "represent" me now.

changemyoil66

Re: The Washington Free Beacon Story on Hawaii CCW de facto "No Issue" Policy
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2017, 10:44:34 AM »
"Alan Gottlieb of the Second Amendment Foundation said. "It will take getting a Supreme Court ruling to get Hawaii to issue permits. As soon as President Trump gets his nominee seated on the Court, the Hawaii de facto ban will be in the crosshairs of the gun rights movement."

This organization is located in my old stomping grounds.  Alan had some IRS troubles but squared them away.
I'm going to join SAF this year when I re-locate my legal state of residence to WA.  SAF seems to be effective and
I know when I was a member of Washington Arms Collectors, SAF had a lot of interaction with grass root
gun owner organizations( something the NRA isn't quite as good at, I'm a life member BTW)  and those groups
pocketbooks.
Our best bet for Hawaii citizens is getting HR 38 passed.  When I become a Wa state citizen again
at least my representative will listen to me, unlike the Hawaiian critters that "represent" me now.

Nishimoto who is my rep actually did propose the bill due to my email.  But getting it approved is an entirely different.

Thought this post was a joke at first.  I read bacon instead on beacon and the publisher I thought was the New England Patriots kicker.  =P