http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/justice-department-blinks-in-battle-against-sheriff-joe/

We need more law men like him.. 

Folks who care more about the color of your skin than the content of your character?  No thanks.

What?? Sheriff Joe? Wait, wait , wait, being that I lived in Vegas, Arizona, been to Maricopa, Nogales, and other border towns which is scarier then shit, what hes doing has nothing to do with race. It's called standing up to illegal immigration, let me say that once again "Illegal Immigration" there are ways to get here and just so happen the way illegals are getting here is just that "Illegal" . I know lots of people from Arizona, texas, and Vegas who are of "legal" immigrant parents that came here the right way, that agree whole heatedly in what sheriff joe is doing. If the DOJ had evidence that he did something that violated civil rights, they would nail his ass to the cross, and make him a poster child, especially in this administration. But they don't that's why they blinked first. Now why does he keep getting elected as sheriff over and over, reason, cause he's the only on that's really doing something about it. Now we dont live close to where there's drug cartel gun fights on almost daily bases right across the border from the towns, beheadings, kidnappings, which I might say Arizona is the kidnap capital of the world if I'm not mistaken. I could go in and in about but I'm not going to its my opinion like I always say you don't need to agree with it that's your right. Like I said GO SHERIFF JOE!!!

Folks who care more about the color of your skin than the content of your character?  No thanks.

Would you care to provide any amplifying information/the grounds for your claim?  Obama's Holder is already making unsubstantiated claims, so if you've got something, you're doing better than Holder!   

Quote from: crazy cat on January 20, 2012, 04:46:07 PM

Folks who care more about the color of your skin than the content of your character?  No thanks.

Would you care to provide any amplifying information/the grounds for your claim?  Obama's Holder is already making unsubstantiated claims, so if you've got something, you're doing better than Holder!   

like I said Cougar if the DOJ found that "AAAANY" civil right were violated they would nail his ass to the cross and make it "REALLY" public. Sheriff Joe would be plastered all over the main stream media.

He will be, wait and see.  But the DOJ works on evidence, not innuendo like World Nut Daily.

As gun owners in Hawaii, I'd think that folks would be wanting the Constitution to be strictly enforced, regardless of what local officials do to pander to the lowest common denominator.

Joe's detention programs should be a model for governments around the country.  He does more, with less -- and gets results.

They said that about Bull Connor, too.  Be careful what you wish for.

What I think should be done is to go after all the "patriotic" American companies (like Tyson Foods) who hire illegal immigrants.  If the jobs disappeared, so would the problem.

They said that about Bull Connor, too.  Be careful what you wish for.

What I think should be done is to go after all the "patriotic" American companies (like Tyson Foods) who hire illegal immigrants.  If the jobs disappeared, so would the problem.

Why don't we go after both? 

They said that about Bull Connor, too.  Be careful what you wish for.

What I think should be done is to go after all the "patriotic" American companies (like Tyson Foods) who hire illegal immigrants.  If the jobs disappeared, so would the problem.

The honest truth is NOBODY would do the hard jobs if not for the immigrants.

You never see anybody else working in 110 degree heat picking lettuce for 12 hours a day for minimum wage except for immigrants.

I don't think illegal immigrants should be hired but the truth is that they have fake birth certificates, shared social security numbers and other ways to trick the employers into hiring them.
 
If you go after the companies that provide inexpensive produce and chicken then the prices go up and everybody complains that the prices are too high.

Quote from: crazy cat on January 20, 2012, 08:12:05 PM

They said that about Bull Connor, too.  Be careful what you wish for.

What I think should be done is to go after all the "patriotic" American companies (like Tyson Foods) who hire illegal immigrants.  If the jobs disappeared, so would the problem.

The honest truth is NOBODY would do the hard jobs if not for the immigrants.

You never see anybody else working in 110 degree heat picking lettuce for 12 hours a day for minimum wage except for immigrants.

I don't think illegal immigrants should be hired but the truth is that they have fake birth certificates, shared social security numbers and other ways to trick the employers into hiring them.

As an aside, while I was on vacation in Mexico, staying at my ex's dads place, we hired a maid to get the place up to snuff.  We agreed on 200 pesos per day, and she would show up like clockwork every morning (having walked or ridden those shitty buses halfway across Guadalajara) at seven sharp, then work her ass off until five or six.  According to my currency converter, 200 pesos is currently worth $15.10 US.  I felt guilty about taking advantage of her, but we really couldn't afford to get too crazy with the wages.  I think she felt the same way; we paid her a thousand pesos at the end of the first week and from the look on her face I'm pretty sure she'd never seen that much money in her whole life.  She was all excited about all the things she could do, she might even be able to save enough for a car!  That woman worked harder for fifteen bucks a day than I would for fifteen bucks an hour; pretty hard for Americans to compete with that work ethic and exchange rate. 

I'm more sympathetic to those who will work (illegally or not), keep their nose clean, and are trying to support themselves.  I do not however, have the same sympathy for the criminal and thugs who make up a significant portion of our criminal justice system.

As far as asking what I wish for, I've been doing and researching my criminal justice classes for a while (considering that is my major), along with lots of lively debate about this topic.  What exactly about Sheriff Joes detention facilities do you have issue with? I would love to understand where you are coming from on this.

I'm with you, Chris.  What pisses me off is the ones who come here and take advantage of our education, welfare, medical care, etc, etc, etc.

Quote from: Kingkeoni on January 20, 2012, 09:40:18 PM

Quote from: crazy cat on January 20, 2012, 08:12:05 PM

They said that about Bull Connor, too.  Be careful what you wish for.

What I think should be done is to go after all the "patriotic" American companies (like Tyson Foods) who hire illegal immigrants.  If the jobs disappeared, so would the problem.

The honest truth is NOBODY would do the hard jobs if not for the immigrants.

You never see anybody else working in 110 degree heat picking lettuce for 12 hours a day for minimum wage except for immigrants.

I don't think illegal immigrants should be hired but the truth is that they have fake birth certificates, shared social security numbers and other ways to trick the employers into hiring them.

As an aside, while I was on vacation in Mexico, staying at my ex's dads place, we hired a maid to get the place up to snuff.  We agreed on 200 pesos per day, and she would show up like clockwork every morning (having walked or ridden those shitty buses halfway across Guadalajara) at seven sharp, then work her ass off until five or six.  According to my currency converter, 200 pesos is currently worth $15.10 US.  I felt guilty about taking advantage of her, but we really couldn't afford to get too crazy with the wages.  I think she felt the same way; we paid her a thousand pesos at the end of the first week and from the look on her face I'm pretty sure she'd never seen that much money in her whole life.  She was all excited about all the things she could do, she might even be able to save enough for a car!  That woman worked harder for fifteen bucks a day than I would for fifteen bucks an hour; pretty hard for Americans to compete with that work ethic and exchange rate.

The workers in Diego Garcia get the equivalent of about 400-450 USD a month, for full-time work. I was pretty spoiled when all I needed to do was leave my laundry out, with 2-3 dollars... I would come back from work with it clean, folded, put away in my locker.  I bought this hand made coconut ship (it's pretty badass) for $35 guy said it takes him 15-20 hours to make.  Many people are not willing to work hard for what they want - I have seen it first hand; hell, I saw it at the most recent job fair (two days ago).

All the hard work jobs are all the jobs that teens used to do, hell back when I was a teen many, many moons ago all the summer jobs in the sugar fields were done by teens, and man we busted our asses carrying a 5 gallon tank on your back with round up all day. But when I got that check I was the happiest SOB in the world. Now a days you tell a kid to go outside and mow the lawn they ready fo call CPS on you. Yes we created the problem, in a way. But it is what it is "illegal" you broke the law to get here well by god you should get busted and as for the "patriotic" companys that crazy cat talks about, they broke the law by all means they should go after them to as well as the illegals. You broke the law, you pay the price plane and simple. We are a nation of laws..

And I'm with Chris also.

All the hard work jobs are all the jobs that teens used to do, hell back when I was a teen many, many moons ago all the summer jobs in the sugar fields were done by teens, and man we busted our asses carrying a 5 gallon tank on your back with round up all day. But when I got that check I was the happiest SOB in the world. Now a days you tell a kid to go outside and mow the lawn they ready fo call CPS on you. Yes we created the problem, in a way. But it is what it is "illegal" you broke the law to get here well by god you should get busted and as for the "patriotic" companys that crazy cat talks about, they broke the law by all means they should go after them to as well as the illegals. You broke the law, you pay the price plane and simple. We are a nation of laws..

And I'm with Chris also.

Your story brings back memories of pitching hay bales in the sweltering heat in Montana!  If the farmer you were working for was feeling especially flush, you could expect to make all the way up to $0.25 per bale!   

Imagine you are the mother of a mentally handicapped thirty-three-year-old-man.  Your son functions on the level of a twelve-year-old boy.  His disability often causes him to act erratically, but you still hope that one day, he can lead a normal life.  One night in August, 2001, he is arrested on a misdemeanor loitering charge when he begins acting strangely in a convenience store.  When officers arrive to arrest him, he is clinging to the store's coffee machine and won't let go.  Four officers forcibly remove him from the store, handcuff him, and throw him to the ground to be hogtied. The force seems excessive, since your son is disabled and only weighs about a hundred and thirty pounds. A few minutes later, his limbs bound behind his tiny frame, officers load him into the squad car to take him away.  Before they pull away, your son asks you, like a little kid:

"Mom, will you ride in the car with me?"

"I can't," you tell him, "the police won't let me."

You figure that the police will probably hold your son overnight, and you head home to get some rest.

Two hours later, your son is dead.

When Charles Agster arrives at Madison Street Jail, he is confused, as is typical of his condition.  He tries to wriggle underneath a bench, and although he is still hogtied, three or more officers and a sheriff's deputy jump on him, punch him, and knee him in the side.  One officer grips his face, pressing upward toward his chin. Although he is now unresponsive, the officers drag him, face down, into the Intake area and strap him into a restraint chair.  They place a spit-hood over his head, encasing him in darkness.  Minutes later, he stops breathing.  The original autopsy lists "positional asphyxia due to restraint" as his cause of death.

Videotape of the incident shows guards trying to resuscitate Agster, but he's already brain dead. A 2002 Amnesty International report expresses concern "that the degree of force used against Agster was grossly disproportionate to any threat posed by him." 

Forty-year-old Brian Crenshaw was  serving a short sentence for shoplifting.  Although Crenshaw had been in and out of jail for years and had a drug problem, he had never been accused of a violent crime.  He was also legally blind.  After an altercation with officers, Crenshaw reported injuries to jail medical personnel. His eye and nose were sutured, and his vitals were taken. Crenshaw stated that he was pushed to the wall, punched and kicked by officers.  Apparently, the struggle ensued when Crenshaw refused to show his ID in a lunch line. Due to the altercation, Crenshaw was placed in lockdown.

For the next six days, nobody entered or left his cell. On March 14, Crenshaw was found unconscious next to his bunk.  He had a broken neck, several broken toes, and extensive internal injuries.  He was comatose, his intestines had ruptured, and his vertebrae needed to be straightened with a halo. Doctors told Crenshaw's mother that his internal injuries were so severe they had to surgically open his stomach to relieve swelling. The sheriff's office asserts that Crenshaw's struggle with guards did not cause the injuries that led to his death.  Despite the severity of Crenshaw's injuries, the sheriff's office maintains that these injuries were incurred when he fell from his bunk.

On a CBS 5 program after the incident, interviewer Chris Hayes asks Arpaio, "Is it possible your guards beat Brian Crenshaw to death?

"Is it possible?" Arpaio sneers. After an uncomfortable pause, he continues, "No, they did not, they did not, and if that's what your critics, or that you're insinuating we went into that cell block and beat him up and threw him to the floor is ridiculous. We did a thorough investigation on that. The man fell off a bunk."

Crenshaw's bunk was 4'2" high, about a foot shorter than a child's bunk bed , or as Chris Hayes pointed out in his investigation, a little taller than a desk.

You don't have to be a softy or an advocate of prisoners' rights to become outraged at reports like these. We all want a sheriff who is tough on crime—and we don't want our tax dollars to be spent on luxurious accommodations for inmates. Rest assured, the conditions in Maricopa County's jails aren't lavish, comfortable, or even tolerable. The temperatures inside Tent City often reach 120 degrees in the summer, and with only four guards for every thousand prisoners, Arpaio is cutting dangerous corners and endangering both inmates and detention officers. The sheriff brags that he spends more money feeding police dogs than he does inmates. The dogs, he argues, deserve better, since they haven't done anything illegal. What's important to remember is that Tent City doesn't just house hardened criminals—it also houses people who are awaiting trial; people who haven't been convicted or even accused of any crime. One young man spent four years in Arpaio's jails before being released—and acquitted on all charges.  Arpaio boasts that he's saving money by keeping inmates in these conditions, but the cost of humiliating inmates is beginning to skyrocket.

http://www.arpaio.com/

There's plenty more at the link.  Either everybody's rights are protected, or nobody's are. 

So I ask once again, why does he keep getting elected?? It's sad the a mentally retarded kid died in jail, but I ask, why didn't the parents go to the jail with him in there own car? You can do that. And this guy saying that "the bed was only 4' 2" people around the world die from just falling out of the shower, or walking down the street and just slipping, it all depends on how and where you hit your head. I not in anyway advocating police brutality at all, but if not thing was done there was no hard evidents or the cops including Joe would have been thrown in prison for murder. Your right DOJ does work on evidents, but they have none and they've been watching him for the past four years if not longer you would think that they had something on him already. He is elected and payed to do a job, and that job envoles protecting that people and he's doing his job.

Like I said the, sad very sad that they died in custody but seams like something is missing from it, once again where we're the parents?? Usually mentally disturbed people go straight to the a mental hospital to be monitored I know cause I got into a scuffle and arrested one. And he was taken straight to mahilona for observation.

   But if he does end up with a civil rights violation from the DOJ I'll eat my words and he deserves every bit of it.

Go Joe! What is wrog with this Obama Admiinistration? Illegal means Illegal.  Just like the fake long form birth certificate.  Throw him and Eric Holder in Jail.

I hope everyone joins in the fight to get Obama off the ballot. Since he is NOT a "Natural Born Citizen"

On my recent trip to Vegas I had to enlighten some black friends why not to vote for Obama.  They had no clue and they are gun owners!

He keeps getting elected (and costing the county big bucks in lawsuits) because he panders to the worst part of human nature.