Weird airport incident (Read 11640 times)

passivekinetic

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2017, 01:09:59 AM »
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/34538443/man-dies-after-breaching-security-at-honolulu-international-airport

Other than the man's behavior rushing through security to the ground operations area, the aftermath sounds very similar to the case in New York, where Cops were using a choke hold to subdue 400 lb asthmatic Eric Gardner. 

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Rocky

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2017, 11:14:56 AM »
Other than the man's behavior rushing through security to the ground operations area, the aftermath sounds very similar to the case in New York, where Cops were using a choke hold to subdue 400 lb asthmatic Eric Gardner.

" the suspect remained combative," said Tim Sakahara, DOT spokesman. "And at that point is when he became unresponsive."    :wacko:
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2017, 03:41:26 PM »
So, if he died in the custody of multiple law enforcement agencies, why would the cause of death be listed as an "Unattended Death?"

Fishy.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2017, 03:44:25 PM »
Moral of the story:  If you're late for boarding, don't pull an OJ !!

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

zippz

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2017, 03:58:41 PM »
I'm guessing a homeless meth head.  People high on meth overheat and can die when they are subject to additional stress and can't move.

oldfart

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2017, 04:20:19 PM »
I'm guessing a homeless meth head.  People high on meth overheat and can die when they are subject to additional stress and can't move.
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I thought the same thing when I saw the story on the news last night.
Let's see what the autopsy and follow up story says.
What, Me Worry?

oldfart

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2017, 07:25:01 AM »
I'm guessing a homeless meth head.  People high on meth overheat and can die when they are subject to additional stress and can't move.
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" Silvert, who represented Kosi in a federal drug case, said Kosi was placed at the Sand Island Treatment Center on Feb. 7. About a week later Kosi left the program in violation of conditions of supervised release set by the court, according to Silvert. He said he received a message from Kosi saying that he left the facility but was going to turn himself in.

Silvert said he didn’t know why Kosi would have gone to the airport. He said the Maui man was struggling with a methamphetamine addiction that he was trying to overcome. Kosi was involved in two other drug treatment programs, Hina Mauka and Po‘ailani, before Sand Island."
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ren

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2017, 09:47:56 AM »
http://khon2.com/2017/02/19/family-of-man-involved-in-airport-security-breach-want-information-surrounding-his-death/

Its interesting how the media portrays this.
As a member of the law abiding public I want answers from the family as to how an ADULT (48 years of age) was able to free himself from court mandated training and try to force himself into an airport.
The lives of many were at stake.

I smell lawsuit.

Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2017, 11:14:35 AM »
http://khon2.com/2017/02/19/family-of-man-involved-in-airport-security-breach-want-information-surrounding-his-death/

Its interesting how the media portrays this.
As a member of the law abiding public I want answers from the family as to how an ADULT (48 years of age) was able to free himself from court mandated training and try to force himself into an airport.
The lives of many were at stake.

I smell lawsuit.

Addicts are "victims", and therefore have more rights than everyday, non-victim-status people.  After all, it's society's fault these people are addicts.  The least society can do is share in the negative consequences along with the "victim."

 :wacko:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2017, 09:28:08 PM »
hearing more from the family of the suspect mostly from the attorneys.
In this day and age - what if he was a suicide bomber? He certainly acted in that way.
Deeds Not Words

zippz

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2017, 10:20:51 AM »
Update on this case.


"According to the report, 48-year-old Charles Kosi had a sudden heart attack during a physical struggle.
Test results showed Kosi had several heart conditions, and it also showed he had methamphetamine in his system."
http://khon2.com/2017/04/02/medical-examiner-releases-report-for-man-that-died-during-airport-breach/

eyeeatingfish

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2017, 09:37:02 PM »
So, if he died in the custody of multiple law enforcement agencies, why would the cause of death be listed as an "Unattended Death?"

Fishy.

Unattended death because the cause of death is not know. Need an autopsy to check for all sorts things.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2017, 10:55:16 PM »
Unattended death because the cause of death is not know. Need an autopsy to check for all sorts things.

How do you know that?  Is there a policy, reg or ordinance for that? 

Is this direct information you got from the coroner?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2017, 11:17:43 PM »
How do you know that?  Is there a policy, reg or ordinance for that? 

Is this direct information you got from the coroner?

What are you asking for? I am saying a coroner needs to determine the cause of death and you ask me how I know that? That is what coroners do, find the cause of death.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2017, 11:45:12 PM »
What are you asking for? I am saying a coroner needs to determine the cause of death and you ask me how I know that? That is what coroners do, find the cause of death.

Obtuse-EEF:   I'll type slowly since I know you can't read fast!  I'll try to use 3rd grade words for you, too.

How do you know the coroner enters "unattended death" in every case where the cause is not immediately known?

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Unattended death because the cause of death is not know. Need an autopsy to check for all sorts things.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

zippz

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2017, 07:46:50 AM »
Unattended death because the cause of death is not know. Need an autopsy to check for all sorts things.

Unattended means he was not under the care (attended) of a doctor or in a hospital.  Has nothing to do with if there are other people around him when he dies.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2017, 10:07:43 AM »
Unattended means he was not under the care (attended) of a doctor or in a hospital.  Has nothing to do with if there are other people around him when he dies.

That makes sense. 

Sounds like a lonely way to go when you don't know the meaning!   :'(
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2017, 11:45:22 PM »
Obtuse-EEF:   I'll type slowly since I know you can't read fast!  I'll try to use 3rd grade words for you, too.

How do you know the coroner enters "unattended death" in every case where the cause is not immediately known?

Sorry, I thought it was understood to be a general term. I always here it in news broadcasts. So and so died of unknown causes and police classified it as an unattended death, for example.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Weird airport incident
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2017, 11:51:01 PM »
Sorry, I thought it was understood to be a general term. I always here it in news broadcasts. So and so died of unknown causes and police classified it as an unattended death, for example.

Maybe your apology would appear less hollow if you hadn't been such a jerk while asserting your wrong "facts", not once, but twice.

Take your sorry, and put it where you pull most of your facts from!   :thumbsup:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw