Poll

You discover an extra $2900+ in the bank acct your property mgr deposits rent checks in. The $1250 deposit is correct, but 5 more the same day total over $2900. Would you:

Buy a new expensive firearm
6.3%
Pay off a credit card
6.3%
Transfer the money and close the account
0%
Quietly wait and hope the mistake is not caught
12.5%
Contact the Property Manger and report the extra deposits
75%
Total Members Voted
16

What would you do? (Read 11209 times)

Flapp_Jackson

What would you do?
« on: February 24, 2017, 05:24:27 PM »
This actually happened to me this week.  After receiving my property management statement, I went online to verify the deposit and found not one, but six deposits on the same day of various amounts.

Curious where others would draw that line when almost $3000 appears in their bank account.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2017, 06:22:19 PM »
Honesty and integrity are of the utmost importance in business, life in general and family. There is only one choice.  :wave: :wave: :wave:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2017, 06:29:31 PM »
Honesty and integrity are of the utmost importance in business, life in general and family. There is only one choice.  :wave: :wave: :wave:

Given the wide range of ethics-based discussions in the past and the even wider range of actions people said they would take, I thought it could be interesting to gauge their opinions on this. 

Coming to the aid of a stranger when their life is threatened is a good example.  Some people exhibit "situational ethics" where they do what most say is right in some circumstances, but then do the opposite in others.

Here, we have a chance to simply lay low and see if we get a $3000 windfall.  I'm sure the Property Manager or Bank would have to make good on those deposits if they can't figure out where they went, so the property owners should not be out anything. 

Food for thought.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2017, 06:42:59 PM »
Given the wide range of ethics-based discussions in the past and the even wider range of actions people said they would take, I thought it could be interesting to gauge their opinions on this. 

Coming to the aid of a stranger when their life is threatened is a good example.  Some people exhibit "situational ethics" where they do what most say is right in some circumstances, but then do the opposite in others.

Here, we have a chance to simply lay low and see if we get a $3000 windfall.  I'm sure the Property Manager or Bank would have to make good on those deposits if they can't figure out where they went, so the property owners should not be out anything. 

Food for thought.
Good, honest Property Managers are too hard to find. For me, not worth the money to go look for another. Besides, I have to live with myself. No amount of money is worth my not having peace of mind.

Of course, this is just me. I won't judge anyone else if they choose another path. Unless it is EEF. Then all bets are off.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2017, 06:46:47 PM »
Good, honest Property Managers are too hard to find. For me, not worth the money to go look for another. Besides, I have to live with myself. No amount of money is worth my not having peace of mind.

Of course, this is just me. I won't judge anyone else if they choose another path. Unless it is EEF. Then all bets are off.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2017, 07:10:51 PM »
Two angles.
1. If it isn't money that is due to me and is given by mistake then it is not mine and should be returned.
2. Accidental payments can be recovered through courts IIRC. Just because they accidentally deposited it into your account doesn't mean you gain a legal ownership of it.

I hope this does not disappoint you Inspector.

oldfart

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2017, 07:24:05 PM »
If you tried to keep the money, you wouldn't get very far.
What, Me Worry?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2017, 07:59:57 PM »
If you tried to keep the money, you wouldn't get very far.

Is that a factor in your decision?  How likely you are to get caught, or in this case, the mistake traced back to your account?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

JHanawahine

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2017, 09:24:00 PM »
I would like to say keep it but my wife works for a bank.They will hold you accountable.

hvybarrels

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2017, 12:48:57 AM »
Do what the bank does and loan out $100k at 8% interest using the windfall deposit as collateral. That way your crimes stay nice and legal.
Never let anyone take away your freedom for "the greater good". Freedom is the greater good.

eyeeatingfish

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2017, 11:32:20 AM »
You been taking math lessons from EEF?   >:D

Why do I need collateral if I'm loaning out $100K?   :wacko:

Because when someone comes back for the money you owe, you have to be able to pay them, you cannot just keep it.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2017, 11:34:49 AM »
Because when someone comes back for the money you owe, you have to be able to pay them, you cannot just keep it.

That makes no sense.  If I LOAN money, I'm not borrowing, so I owe nothing.

Try to read for comprehension, please.   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2017, 11:38:58 AM »
That makes no sense.  If I LOAN money, I'm not borrowing, so I owe nothing.

Try to read for comprehension, please.   :rofl:

More evidence you cannot resist making personal attacks? Please stop your trolling, it is a burden here.

Collateral is so you can pay back the money that you don't own. In this case you are loaning something that isn't yours.

ren

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2017, 11:39:32 AM »
Good, honest Property Managers are too hard to find. For me, not worth the money to go look for another. Besides, I have to live with myself. No amount of money is worth my not having peace of mind.

Of course, this is just me. I won't judge anyone else if they choose another path. Unless it is EEF. Then all bets are off.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I think if EEF would be PM then it would be a sanctuary rental subsidized by Section 8.
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2017, 11:42:26 AM »
I think if EEF would be PM then it would be a sanctuary rental subsidized by Section 8.

Slum lord.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2017, 11:45:19 AM »
Slum lord.

Seriously, do you not possess the capability to be polite? I commented politely and you have been nothing but abrasive. Yet you claim I am the one who gets rude and says mean things?

Your posts have been reported. I will not be bullied by you.

ren

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2017, 11:47:07 AM »
Seriously, do you not possess the capability to be polite? I commented politely and you have been nothing but abrasive. Yet you claim I am the one who gets rude and says mean things?

Your posts have been reported. I will not be bullied by you.




simple solution is to not post or pay attention to this forum.
no one forced you to post or read.
you have the freedom to do so.
So I see no cause for being bullied.
"Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me."
That's what I remembered from grade school.
Just walk away.
Deeds Not Words

eyeeatingfish

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2017, 12:04:20 PM »



simple solution is to not post or pay attention to this forum.
no one forced you to post or read.
you have the freedom to do so.
So I see no cause for being bullied.
"Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me."
That's what I remembered from grade school.
Just walk away.

In all fairness the sticks and stones line is one of the dumbest there is. I don't mean that as an insult to you but a myth that the phrase perpetuates. However that is another topic.

Sure, I could avoid the forum and flap's comments but I have been here for quite some time and enjoy the information and discussions. If flapp is going to derail a thread to make personal attacks and no one has a problem with it then I have the same freedoms to call BS on his comments. This has happened repeatedly and if memory serves me right, you have been one who has been annoyed at the results. If you don't care one bit then so be it.

ren

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2017, 12:08:09 PM »
In all fairness the sticks and stones line is one of the dumbest there is. I don't mean that as an insult to you but a myth that the phrase perpetuates. However that is another topic.

Sure, I could avoid the forum and flap's comments but I have been here for quite some time and enjoy the information and discussions. If flapp is going to derail a thread to make personal attacks and no one has a problem with it then I have the same freedoms to call BS on his comments. This has happened repeatedly and if memory serves me right, you have been one who has been annoyed at the results. If you don't care one bit then so be it.

I can ignore people on this forum.
Annoyed yes but I don't feel bullied.
I can walk away from this forum forever and the sun will rise and set tomorrow.
A person can shout and say things to you. It's up to you what your reaction will be. All your feelings belong to you. You generate them as a response to those statements. BLUF: You are responsible for how you feel and react. All your perceptions. They are owned and maintained by YOU. No one else.
Deeds Not Words

eyeeatingfish

Re: What would you do?
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2017, 12:13:08 PM »
I can ignore people on this forum.
Annoyed yes but I don't feel bullied.
I can walk away from this forum forever and the sun will rise and set tomorrow.
A person can shout and say things to you. It's up to you what your reaction will be. All your feelings belong to you. You generate them as a response to those statements. BLUF: You are responsible for how you feel and react. All your perceptions. They are owned and maintained by YOU. No one else.

Agreed, but my concern is not so much my feelings as it is the detrimental effect it has had on conversations on this forum. I prefer, as I think most do, that we have fairly civil conversations though we disagree, not pages of off topic divisive rubbish.