This guy will lie with his dying breath... as long as it provides him with more money for his $300-million-dollar-net-worth empire built on lies.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/07/gore_cites_ferocious_resistance_to_climate_change.html

Gore cites 'ferocious resistance' to climate change

Excerpts:

Climate change hysteric Al Gore was in Australia addressing the EcoCity World Summit and gave attendees exactly what they wanted.

He likened global warming advocates to activists who fought to end slavery, promoted civil rights and women's suffrage, gay rights, and the anti-apartheid movement, saying they all met "ferocious resistance" in pushing their causes.

Liberals just aren't happy unless they are losing.  Gore's misleading message about extreme weather events and the peril that the Earth is in just doesn't track with the available evidence.

And skeptics willing to point this out are marginalized, hounded out of academia, and threatened with jail – or worse.  Journals refuse to publish their papers.  It is tantamount to professional suicide to question the dominant views of scientists who have their careers and reputations at stake in promoting a false narrative about imminent climate disaster unless we impoverish ourselves by massively reducing industrial activity.

The reality of this "ferocious resistance" is that barely a peep is heard from skeptics in professional scientific circles.  The climate change echo chamber does not allow alternate viewpoints to be heard.

Al Gore has gotten rich running around the globe telling us that the end is nigh unless we destroy Western economies.  His message may cheer liberals who see themselves as a persecuted minority, heroically battling the forces of evil to save us all from destruction.  But for the rest of us, it's just more tiresome rhetoric.

I saw that article about Gore the other day. Just made me :rolleyes:

Appealing to emotions. Sound familiar. Yeah, I don't want to trash this Earth, but there is science available on the matter.


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I saw that article about Gore the other day. Just made me :rolleyes:

Appealing to emotions. Sound familiar. Yeah, I don't want to trash this Earth, but there is science available on the matter.


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Typical hysterics from the left. Gore and all the other hysterical progressives who believed him when he said that unless the world “took drastic measures the world would reach a point of no return within 10 years.” That 10 years has come and gone. Where is the tipping point he is talking about? It never happened. Not even close. Arctic ice would disappear by 2013. Gore also said "... I went down to Miami and saw fish from the ocean swimming in the streets on a sunny day. The same thing was true in Honolulu just two days ago, just from high tides because of the sea level rise now,” he added. Among other predictions Gore made that never came true was his claim that storms would become more intense and the world would see stronger hurricanes on a more frequent basis. He also claimed Mt. Kilimanjaro in Africa would lose it’s snowpack by 2016. But that also hasn’t happened — and it’s not even close.

How can anyone believe this liar? Or even worse, support him and back his agenda? Can't the climate change believers see he is doing this only to make money off of you? And California is at the forefront of all of this. They almost single handedly forced the emission of automobiles, trucks and motorcycles be reduced by drastic amounts. They taxed and rezoned companies that polluted right out of the city. They built one of the most modern and inefficient mass transit systems the world has ever seen. They shame and bully the citizens into using mass transit, buy electric cars and ride bikes. And what do they get for all of this? MORE SMOG!!!! The smog has gotten progressively worse during the entire period they have tried to lower it. Serves them right IMHO.

I just drank some coffee.... 

I don't even know what Gore is trying to achieve realistically and practically.

He's like a preacher at a Mega-Church.
Gets super rich on giving Sermons to the congregation.
He has no practical agenda and no one cares.
They want to hear him preach so they feel morally OK.
While they leave in their cars to their ridiculously lit-up posh hotels until they get on a Jumbo Jet all the while utilizing all their manufactured goods.....

(no slight intended to any specific or non-specific religion.)

How can anyone believe this liar?

It has become the religion of the leftists, why no argument is permitted.

Have written many times, the left screwed the pooch allowing this to become a Gore/leftwing thing.  Effectively shut out half the US population from paying any attention to them and just rejecting it out of hand.

Strategy is not their strong aspect.  They screwed themselves.

It has become the religion of the leftists, why no argument is permitted.

Have written many times, the left screwed the pooch allowing this to become a Gore/leftwing thing.  Effectively shut out half the US population from paying any attention to them and just rejecting it out of hand.

Strategy is not their strong aspect.  They screwed themselves.

Gore made millions.

I'm looking to screw myself like that, too!   

Gore made millions.
I'm looking to screw myself like that, too!   

Uh oh. FJ is looking to start his own cult. 

Uh oh. FJ is looking to start his own cult.

What makes you think I haven't already? 

Guess what? It looks like the lying climate scientist behind the cherry picked global warming climate chart got caught.   

http://principia-scientific.org/breaking-fatal-courtroom-act-ruins-michael-hockey-stick-mann/

Penn State climate scientist, Michael ‘hockey stick’ Mann commits contempt of court in the ‘climate science trial of the century.’ Prominent alarmist shockingly defies judge and refuses to surrender data for open court examination. Only possible outcome: Mann’s humiliation, defeat and likely criminal investigation in the U.S.

The defendant in the libel trial, the 79-year-old Canadian climatologist, Dr Tim Ball (above, right) is expected to instruct his British Columbia attorneys to trigger mandatory punitive court sanctions, including a ruling that Mann did act with criminal intent when using public funds to commit climate data fraud. Mann’s imminent defeat is set to send shock waves worldwide within the climate science community as the outcome will be both a legal and scientific vindication of U.S. President Donald Trump’s claims that climate scare stories are a “hoax.”

Why am I not surprised? 

And the hits just keep on coming...

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449567/renewables-advocate-mark-jacobson-tells-his-critics-hes-hired-lawyer?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NR%20Daily%20Monday%20through%20Friday%202017-07-18&utm_term=NR5PM%20Actives

Mark Jacobson, the Stanford professor who claims the U.S. can run solely on renewables, tells his critics he’s hired an attorney.

Mark Jacobson, the Stanford engineering professor who became the darling of the green Left by repeatedly claiming the U.S. economy can run solely on renewable energy, has threatened to take legal action against the authors of an article that demolished his claims last month in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The paper — whose lead author is Chris Clack, a mathematician who has worked at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the University of Colorado and now has an energy consulting firm — received coverage in the New York Times, the Washington Post, and other outlets, including a piece from yours truly in this space. Clack’s paper went through rigorous vetting and numerous delays that lasted more than a year. Rather than accept any of the criticisms Clack and his nearly two dozen co-authors made, Jacobson responded with tirades on Twitter, EcoWatch, and elsewhere. He claimed that his work doesn’t contain a single error, that all of his critics are whores for hydrocarbons, and that, well, dammit, he’s right. Never mind that Jacobson overstated the amount of available hydropower in the U.S. by roughly a factor of ten and claimed that in just three decades or so, we won’t need any gasoline, diesel, or jet fuel because we will all be flying to Vegas in hydrogen-powered 737s.

It seems to me that with all these lawsuits either occurring or about to occur that the climate change narrative is falling apart due to all the lies finally coming out. Seems that what we have been saying all along about the bullying, lawsuits and the ones doing the lying being supported by the U.S. and other rich countries due to the tremendous amount of money being made off the hysteria is true. Including the fact that big oil is not supplying funding to the so called "climate deniers" as is the lying narrative from the climate change hysterical believers. I guess things are no where near as bad as the lies made it seem?

I wonder what is going to happen the 97% (another lie) that claim the world is ending? I hope they all rot in jail. 

In the meantime I do believe that we are polluting streams, rivers and doing some harm to our environment. Just not to the huge extent that the lies make it seem to the naive. Mother nature has a way of dealing with all of our polluting and it seems to me she is still capable of keeping up. Maybe not forever? Maybe in a couple of hundred years we will start to see real proof of climate change. Or in my opinion pollution that mother nature is not able to overcome. But when we see it, it will be quantifiable and there won't be any question we will have to do something about it. Or, what I hope happens is that we continue on a path of recycling and renewable energy development. To the extent that it not only makes sense to support it but it also makes financial sense as well. Right now, if you have to offer taxpayer incentives to get people to buy certain cars or put solar on ones roof, the technology is not mature enough yet. JMHO 

The claim that "renewable"/"green" energy could be sufficient to replace fossil fuel sources is (probably) false. Here is a very short article that outlines several of the problems.

Wind and Solar Energy Are Dead Ends

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/07/wind_and_solar_energy_are_dead_ends.html

Excerpts:

Renewable energy is the way of the future, we are told.  It is inevitable.  Some renewable energy advocates boldly claim that the world could be powered by renewable energy as early as 2030 – with enough government subsidies, that is.  And of course, the mainstream media play their part, hyping up the virtues of solar and wind energy as the solution to climate change.

In one regard, they are quite right: in terms of generational capacity, wind and solar have grown by leaps and bounds in the last three decades (wind by 24.3% per year since 1990, solar by 46.2% per year since 1990).  However, there are two questions worth asking: (i) are renewable energies making a difference, and (ii) are they sustainable?

To answer the first question: No, wind and solar energy have not made a dent in global energy consumption, despite their rapid growth.  In fact, after thirty years of beefy government subsidies, wind power still meets just 0.46% of earth's total energy demands, according to data from the International Energy Agency (IEA).  The data include not only electrical energy, but also energy consumed via liquid fuels for transportation, heating, cooking, etc.  Solar generates even less energy.  Even combined, the figures are minuscule: wind and solar energy together contribute less than 1% of Earth's energy output.

Bottom line: Renewables are not making a difference.

* * * *  *
To answer the second question: Is renewable energy sustainable?  Is the future wind- and solar-powered?

No.

* * * * *
This is not to say wind and solar energy have no uses.  In some cases, they may be preferable to other types of energy.  For example, in remote locations townships and homesteads can benefit greatly from local electricity production, especially since renewable energy does not require fuel.  However, wind and solar energy are unlikely to underpin the global energy supply, so long as more cost-effective and efficient options remain on the table.

You have to give it a chance to prove itself. You know, like Trump...

You have to give it a chance to prove itself. You know, like Trump...

interesting how they consider OTEC "geothermal" and H-POWER "biomass"...

Hawaiian Electric rates could rise 44% under Green Energy plan OKed by state regulators

https://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/news/2017/07/17/hawaiian-electric-rates-could-rise-44-under-plan.html

The state’s utility commission has approved Hawaiian Electric Cos.’ latest power-supply improvement plan, which forecasts rate increases of more than 44 percent over the next nine years….

According to the approved PSIP, customers could face average rate increases of between 18 and 25 percent over the next four years across the utility’s service territories, which include Hawaiian Electric Co. on Oahu; Maui Electric Co. on Maui, Molokai and Lanai; and Hawaiian Electric Light Co. on the Big Island.

“Given the substantial increase in rates forecasted in the report, the commission is concerned that the companies have not fully considered the affordability of their plans,” the commission said in its decision…..

“We share our customers’ concern with prices, and we don’t believe in renewables at any cost,” Peter Rosegg, senior spokesman at Hawaiian Electric Company, told PBN in an email. “We will evaluate every future project, which must be approved by the Public Utilities Commission with input from the Consumer Advocate, to achieve a balance between progress on our ambitious renewable energy goals and minimizing costs to customers.”  (IQ Test: Did you believe any of that?)

Hawaiian Electric said in the PSIP that it plans to procure almost 400 megawatts of new renewable resources across its service territories by 2021, which collectively represents the largest new generation procurement ever undertaken in the state….

Mina Morita pointed to liquefied natural gas as a potential solution to help mitigate the cost impact.

“This is a where I have a real problem with Gov. David Ige's administration, and the reluctance to have LNG,” she said. “To think that we are going to get off fossil fuel in the near term is crazy.”….

Hawaiian Electric rates could rise 44% under Green Energy plan OKed by state regulators

https://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/news/2017/07/17/hawaiian-electric-rates-could-rise-44-under-plan.html

The state’s utility commission has approved Hawaiian Electric Cos.’ latest power-supply improvement plan, which forecasts rate increases of more than 44 percent over the next nine years….

According to the approved PSIP, customers could face average rate increases of between 18 and 25 percent over the next four years across the utility’s service territories, which include Hawaiian Electric Co. on Oahu; Maui Electric Co. on Maui, Molokai and Lanai; and Hawaiian Electric Light Co. on the Big Island.

“Given the substantial increase in rates forecasted in the report, the commission is concerned that the companies have not fully considered the affordability of their plans,” the commission said in its decision…..

“We share our customers’ concern with prices, and we don’t believe in renewables at any cost,” Peter Rosegg, senior spokesman at Hawaiian Electric Company, told PBN in an email. “We will evaluate every future project, which must be approved by the Public Utilities Commission with input from the Consumer Advocate, to achieve a balance between progress on our ambitious renewable energy goals and minimizing costs to customers.”  (IQ Test: Did you believe any of that?)

Hawaiian Electric said in the PSIP that it plans to procure almost 400 megawatts of new renewable resources across its service territories by 2021, which collectively represents the largest new generation procurement ever undertaken in the state….

Mina Morita pointed to liquefied natural gas as a potential solution to help mitigate the cost impact.

“This is a where I have a real problem with Gov. David Ige's administration, and the reluctance to have LNG,” she said. “To think that we are going to get off fossil fuel in the near term is crazy.”….

Now that the lies have been exposed. And knowing that the research foisted upon the Hawaii citizens that they based the renewable energy mandate for HECO to move to renewable enrergy is all a lie, how can they in good conscience continue the lie? Yeah, we know the answer to this.... 

Now that the lies have been exposed. And knowing that the research foisted upon the Hawaii citizens that they based the renewable energy mandate for HECO to move to renewable enrergy is all a lie, how can they in good conscience continue the lie? Yeah, we know the answer to this.... 

You mean just like the lies that de facto no carry of any kind, ban on greater than 10-round handgun magazines, bans on "assault pistols", waiting periods, firearm registration, bans on stun guns, bans on suppressors, bans on bladed instruments, etc., etc., etc. enhance "public safety", when in fact those measures have absolutely no proven causal relationship to decreasing any crime statistic at all, or if there is any causal relationship it is relatively small and the "controlled/banned" issue actually comes down on the side of making the public safer were it NOT controlled/banned? That kind of lie? Actually, Dave, I'd like to hear your answer, even though I know you were posing a rhetorical question... unless you were implying that they have no "good conscience". I tend to believe that they do have a (however small and distorted) "conscience", and that they justify the deceit as being their elitist superiority enacting tyrannical measures to "save" the ignorant peons by making them totally dependent upon and slaves to the all-knowing and powerful  "state". But I really have no idea. 

Hawaii has a unique situation compared to the mainland where renewable energy makes more economic sense in the long run.  Every tanker of oil we use means more money leaving the state economy that has to be made up somewhere else...more Federal funding or tourism coming in, or less money available to buy other imports.  Hawaii has most of the stuff to make renewables work...varied geography for wind power, lots of sun for solar, volcanism and the ocean for geothermal, limited space for landfills which makes HPower feasible, and high energy costs from not being able to import electricity from other States when needed.  In addition to renewables, we need to tie all of the island's electrical grids together so we can balance the loads and reduce the need for backup power.

The problem is Hawaii can't make our own power generation equipment so it has to be imported in and installed which creates a high short term cost, but it'll beneficial in the long term once everything is in place.