Is the Deep State in control? (Read 22347 times)

passivekinetic

Is the Deep State in control?
« on: February 28, 2017, 12:48:40 PM »
Interesting article.

http://reason.com/archives/2017/02/23/revenge-of-the-deep-state

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Revenge of the Deep State

The unseen government within the government has so much data on Americans that it can reward or punish at its own discretion.

Last week, The Wall Street Journal revealed that members of the intelligence community — part of the deep state, the unseen government within the government that does not change with elections — now have acquired so much data on everyone in America that they can selectively reveal it to reward their friends and harm their foes. Their principal foe today is the president of the United States.

Liberty is rarely lost overnight. The wall of tyranny often begins with benign building blocks of safety — each one lying on top of a predecessor — eventually collectively constituting an impediment to the exercise of free choices by free people, often not even recognized until it is too late.

Here is the back story.

In the pre-Revolutionary era, British courts in London secretly issued general warrants to British government agents in America. The warrants were not based on any probable cause of crime or individual articulable suspicion; they did not name the person or thing to be seized or identify the place to be searched. They authorized agents to search where they wished and seize what they found.
"The sheep fear sheepdogs, because they fail to see the wolves."
- Anonymous

passivekinetic

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2017, 12:50:02 PM »
(By the way, the mandatory vaccination stuff is exactly part of that progression toward tyranny.)
"The sheep fear sheepdogs, because they fail to see the wolves."
- Anonymous

omnigun

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2017, 02:11:58 PM »
(By the way, the mandatory vaccination stuff is exactly part of that progression toward tyranny.)

I've been summoned.  This conspiracy theory is dumb.  Whats next 911 was an inside job?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2017, 02:28:52 PM »
Fixed it for you ...

I've been summoned  triggered.  This conspiracy theory is dumb.  Whats next 911 was an inside job?

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2017, 02:39:14 PM »
I've been summoned.  This conspiracy theory is dumb.  Whats next 911 was an inside job?
Now that is a discussion that would be interesting in this forum.

I'm not really trying to stir shit.  But from my work background, I know a little bit about how buildings are built as well as how they come down.  It's interesting to me to see what people come up with in terms of proving their theories.  That's for both sides to be honest. 

passivekinetic

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2017, 05:27:47 PM »
I've been summoned.  This conspiracy theory is dumb.  Whats next 911 was an inside job?

Not sure if you are being serious or not.

But I think by now everyone should have already formed their own opinions regarding 9/11 and JFK.

Nothing further needs to be said on those two events.
"The sheep fear sheepdogs, because they fail to see the wolves."
- Anonymous

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2017, 06:17:33 PM »
Not sure if you are being serious or not.

But I think by now everyone should have already formed their own opinions regarding 9/11 and JFK.

Nothing further needs to be said on those two events.

What are you trying to hide?

 >:D :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

passivekinetic

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2017, 07:04:31 PM »
What are you trying to hide?

 >:D :geekdanc:

Annoyance. But not successfully.

http://www.ae911truth.org/

In case anyone has not yet come across that site in 16 years...
"The sheep fear sheepdogs, because they fail to see the wolves."
- Anonymous

whynow?

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2017, 08:17:16 PM »
Well tell you what, real or imagined the Deep State deserves our contempt.   We need to defy, confront, obstruct, be disloyal to, investigate, bring down any individual, group or organization who supports ideals of the Deep State, real or imagined.  Wonder if the OFA is real or imagined.  The Shuckin' n Jivin' King has been mighty quiet these days.   Of course his life is also real or imagined.

bass monkey

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2017, 08:33:51 PM »
I forget where I read it,  but the article talked about trump firing the entire 7th floor of some building,  and the people that worked there was some kind of secret subset that ran the government

whynow?

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2017, 08:51:21 PM »
8 years was a long time to plant Obama. loyalists in all facets of fed government. 
Good video real or imagined about the Deep State.

omnigun

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2017, 11:36:57 AM »
Not sure if you are being serious or not.

But I think by now everyone should have already formed their own opinions regarding 9/11 and JFK.

Nothing further needs to be said on those two events.

Was the moon landing faked also?  Was sandy hook a false flag?

whynow?

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2017, 08:25:16 AM »
The real or imagined Deep State story continues to grow.  News of Valerie Jarrett, covert Iranian agent, slum lord and all around nasty individual moving in with Obama at his walled up Kalorama estate in DC.   Why she moving in?  Maybe innocent reasons such as threesomes with Barry, Michael and Val, or assist in planning to disrupt and overthrow the president?   I hope and pry that DJT is sharp enough to take down these vermin before they can strike.   They bring a chrome semi 9MM to a gunfight and DJT brings a Phalanx CIWS.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4271412/Obama-confidante-Valerie-Jarrett-moves-Kaloroma-home.html

passivekinetic

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2017, 12:04:45 PM »
Was the moon landing faked also?  Was sandy hook a false flag?

The moon landing, and the flat earth nonsense, is used to make ALL conspiracy researchers look like idiots.

The fact that you used it as argument proves this point. You should also have asked "Is the Earth flat as well?"

I am immune to the ordinary trick of shaming to shut people up. A lot of folks even post "I don't want to wear a tin foil hat but..." or "tin foil hat time..." as a way to say they are ashamed to bring up conspiracy facts. But it is unnecessary. There is no shame in trying to get to the bottom of truth.

Pizzagate is another thing that is at risk of being shut down because of shaming tactics. The flat earth nonsense was put forward recently (past 2 years) probably because too much information is being found out, and they needed a big way to shame people and shut them down, and make them look like idiots.

There are only 2 types of people I find:

1) Those who have not bothered to do diligent research because it is too much work, too much time (the below video is 2+ hours)

2) Those who have, and if they are rational people, know something seriously is wrong (with 9/11, JFK, Sandy Hook, Pizzagate, etc).

Fortunately, the problem is easy to fix. Do the research, with serious intention and effort (and before vital information is censored, like Pizzagate is being in real time). Unless one is an idiot, the facts will make sense.

« Last Edit: March 02, 2017, 12:17:37 PM by passivekinetic »
"The sheep fear sheepdogs, because they fail to see the wolves."
- Anonymous

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2017, 01:30:48 PM »
The moon landing, and the flat earth nonsense, is used to make ALL conspiracy researchers look like idiots.

The fact that you used it as argument proves this point. You should also have asked "Is the Earth flat as well?"




If the Earth isn't flat, why do so many items come in

FLAT DARK EARTH?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2017, 01:35:25 PM »
"Flat earth : Show me an accurate map to scale of country's locations and sizes, show me a picture of earth from space that is not photoshoped Show me a photo of the north pole"
"Flat as a pancake!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:"
"Stop exploring space  : Yes sort of, How about we do something useful instead of sending billions of dollars to take photos of shit that dont matter. "

hmmm so the technology of getting into space is useless?  Who needs satellites anyway. Who wants to explore?  You probably disapprove the explorers ever leaving europe. Who wants to further the human species and secure our survival by spreading out.  Who cares bout science....

And here is when i facepalm.  I now realize there is no point in arguing about science with you.   I mean if you actually think the earth might be flat........
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

passivekinetic

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2017, 01:37:59 PM »
Ok, see, the Flat Earth theory rears its deceptive head.

Don't get trapped by it.
"The sheep fear sheepdogs, because they fail to see the wolves."
- Anonymous

Inspector

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2017, 01:56:16 PM »
If the Earth isn't flat, why do so many items come in

FLAT DARK EARTH?
Oh yeah, huh. So the earth is really flat and the pictures we see of it have been photoshopped to make it look round. I see the bigger picture now.  :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

omnigun

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2017, 02:37:34 PM »
The moon landing, and the flat earth nonsense, is used to make ALL conspiracy researchers look like idiots.

The fact that you used it as argument proves this point. You should also have asked "Is the Earth flat as well?"

I am immune to the ordinary trick of shaming to shut people up. A lot of folks even post "I don't want to wear a tin foil hat but..." or "tin foil hat time..." as a way to say they are ashamed to bring up conspiracy facts. But it is unnecessary. There is no shame in trying to get to the bottom of truth.

Pizzagate is another thing that is at risk of being shut down because of shaming tactics. The flat earth nonsense was put forward recently (past 2 years) probably because too much information is being found out, and they needed a big way to shame people and shut them down, and make them look like idiots.

There are only 2 types of people I find:

1) Those who have not bothered to do diligent research because it is too much work, too much time (the below video is 2+ hours)

2) Those who have, and if they are rational people, know something seriously is wrong (with 9/11, JFK, Sandy Hook, Pizzagate, etc).

Fortunately, the problem is easy to fix. Do the research, with serious intention and effort (and before vital information is censored, like Pizzagate is being in real time). Unless one is an idiot, the facts will make sense.



Pizza gate is one of the stupidest things that has come up from conspiracy theories after 911 and sandy hook.  The whole thing is retarded.  I did "research"  everything that was presented is some far stretched, some with random photos trying to straw together something.  Hell anyone can do this for anything, you believe what you want to believe and can twist logic to your beliefs.  Did my illness get cured?  Do I believe in god?  God must of cured me.  Do I dislike the government?  Does this event have any sort of information that might not 100% match up to everything?  Must be the government killing our president or shooting up a school.

Two people I know

1) Those who accept reality
2) Those who desperately try and disprove reality.


I know of another conspiracy theorys I wish to know you thoughts on.  Does the US government have aliens in area 51?  Did aliens build the pyramids?  Where the pyramids used to store grain? (lol carson)  Does the government use mind control? 
« Last Edit: March 02, 2017, 02:42:49 PM by omnigun »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Is the Deep State in control?
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2017, 02:48:03 PM »
Did my illness get cured?  Do I believe in god?  God must of cured me.

The majority of people on Earth believe in God or some higher power.  Are you saying less than half the world accepts reality?

There are many documented cases of faith having more effect on healing a patient than medicine was able to.  It's a documented FACT that a patient's mental state greatly influences the effectiveness or lack of same in their treatment.  Stress is a well-known factor in many ailments.  "Stress kills."  So, if someone's beliefs create confidence, reduces fear and stress, and gives a person faith they will be healed, and they in fact are, how can anyone discount the positive effects of those beliefs? 
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"Their ordeal was not yet over when a shocking news was revealed to them. Gideon had brain cancer. The poor baby had to undergo chemotherapy.
His white blood cell count at zero was unbelievably alarming since he needed at least 500 to recuperate. Then, as if God Himself intervened,
just in a span of 8 hours, Gideon’s white blood cell count rose from 0 to 7000. He was declared cancer-free and was fit to go home. Even doctors
could not explain how such a miraculous healing happened."

http://viralk.com/doctors-puzzled-babys-miraculous-healing/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw