Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General (Read 6181 times)

punaperson

Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General
« on: March 02, 2017, 07:13:39 AM »
Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General

http://www.npr.org/2017/03/02/518120957/gop-house-oversight-chief-calls-for-sessions-to-recuse-on-russia-investigation

"There cannot be even the scintilla of doubt about the impartiality and fairness of the attorney general, the top law enforcement official of the land," Schumer said. "Because the Department of Justice should be above reproach, for the good of the country Attorney General Sessions should resign."

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I've searched in vain for Schumer's similar demands for the resignations of Holder and Lynch in the cases of 1. AG Holder having all his documents and communications declared "executive privileged" (and thus not viewable by any public entity) by Obama regarding "Fast and Furious" (the first time EVER that someone other than the president's own documents were so declared), 2. the refusal of Holder to look into the charges of Obama's birth certificate possible fraud (I mean, come on, there was at least a "scintilla" of evidence), and 3. the "spontaneous" tarmac meeting between AG Lynch and the husband (and former president) of a person (Ms. Rodham/Mrs. Clinton) under investigation by DOJ/FBI (where the AG claims they only spoke about the grandchildren!). The hypocrisy of these politicians never ceases to amaze me. They can get a way with it because the vast majority of the populous isn't paying any attention at all (they simply don't care), and secondly, most of those who do just "hear about it"  don't know enough about it to see it for the spectacular hypocrisy/lies that it is.  :crazy:

robtmc

Re: Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2017, 12:33:58 PM »
Well, of course slimey Schumer has never met with those accursed Russians.

whynow?

Re: Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2017, 06:17:15 PM »
To me if Sessions weathers this little storm, hope it hardens him with a resolve to go after these vultures who are screaming for his resignation.   These dems have selective memory.  If I was Sessions and DJT, I would tell the dems to stick it and not answer any more questions. 
http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/02/claire-mccaskill-claims-she-never-met-russias-ambassador-but-her-tweets-suggest-otherwise/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/03/president-trump-demands-investigation-after-nancy-pelosi-lies-about-2010-meeting-with-russian-ambassador/

punaperson

Re: Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2017, 03:08:57 PM »

omnigun

Re: Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2017, 03:10:21 PM »
As much as I like sessions I wouldn't mind him replaced with someone pro pot.  We need to legalize and tax the living shit out of it.   We would make billions and the cartels in mexico will get fucked.

punaperson

Re: Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2017, 05:47:43 PM »
As much as I like sessions I wouldn't mind him replaced with someone pro pot.  We need to legalize and tax the living shit out of it.   We would make billions and the cartels in mexico will get fucked.
How about the whole government is replaced by people who are pro-liberty and get the effin government out of everybody's personal business? Oh, and eff taxing everything that some fascist totalitarians decide they don't want people to have without being financially (or otherwise) penalized.  >:(

omnigun

Re: Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2017, 06:03:32 PM »
How about the whole government is replaced by people who are pro-liberty and get the effin government out of everybody's personal business? Oh, and eff taxing everything that some fascist totalitarians decide they don't want people to have without being financially (or otherwise) penalized.  >:(

Its a luxury good and not really needed.  Like alcohol or cigarettes.  It should be taxed to pay for more important things.

punaperson

Re: Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2017, 06:06:20 PM »
Its a luxury good and not really needed.  Like alcohol or cigarettes.  It should be taxed to pay for more important things.
Oh, yeah, what stone tablet did you get that off of?

Is food a "luxury item"? How much of a "luxury tax" for "not really needed" firearms would be appropriate? I think Clinton floated 25% once upon a time.

omnigun

Re: Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2017, 06:45:41 PM »
Oh, yeah, what stone tablet did you get that off of?

Is food a "luxury item"? How much of a "luxury tax" for "not really needed" firearms would be appropriate? I think Clinton floated 25% once upon a time.

I would rather tax luxury items than income.  You don't need pot, booze, cigs and many products like that.  Food isn't a luxury item.  Hate to break it to you but firearms are already taxed so is ammo.   Right now pot is taxed at 0% cause its illegal. Cartels sell it for billions and we waste billions with a useless war on those drugs.

punaperson

Re: Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2017, 10:12:33 PM »
I would rather tax luxury items than income.  You don't need pot, booze, cigs and many products like that.  Food isn't a luxury item.  Hate to break it to you but firearms are already taxed so is ammo.   Right now pot is taxed at 0% cause its illegal. Cartels sell it for billions and we waste billions with a useless war on those drugs.
Most people wouldn't consider food to be a "luxury item". Food is currently taxed. Guns and ammo are subject to the same excise tax as food, but not to the "luxury" state-mandated "sin taxes" as alcohol, tobacco, etc. that you advocate. Why do you believe the state has the right to take money (any money really, but especially exorbitant percentages as "sin taxes") from people just because you or some bureaucratic decides that something is a "luxury" item? What besides food, water, shelter and clothing isn't a luxury item? Certainly clothes beyond the few pairs of each item, jewelry, televisions, stereos, phones, computers, any home larger than x square feet per person, cars, trucks, sports equipment, any machinery or tools unrelated to source of income, etc. are all "luxury"/things you don't "need" (to use your language). For proof, just go to India and see how the vast majority of the population lives... everything beyond what those people have would be taxed at an extremely high rate according to you because what they have is all that people "need", and everything beyond that is a "luxury", right? Why do you want further government corruption and waste infiltrating and controlling another part of American life? You think "legal and heavily tax and regulated by the government" is better than illegal, so it's a "compromise"? Like an "assault weapon" ban and de facto no carry in public based on a fake law are "compromises" compared to banning all guns and banning public carry?

omnigun

Re: Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2017, 10:32:32 PM »
Most people wouldn't consider food to be a "luxury item". Food is currently taxed. Guns and ammo are subject to the same excise tax as food, but not to the "luxury" state-mandated "sin taxes" as alcohol, tobacco, etc. that you advocate. Why do you believe the state has the right to take money (any money really, but especially exorbitant percentages as "sin taxes") from people just because you or some bureaucratic decides that something is a "luxury" item? What besides food, water, shelter and clothing isn't a luxury item? Certainly clothes beyond the few pairs of each item, jewelry, televisions, stereos, phones, computers, any home larger than x square feet per person, cars, trucks, sports equipment, any machinery or tools unrelated to source of income, etc. are all "luxury"/things you don't "need" (to use your language). For proof, just go to India and see how the vast majority of the population lives... everything beyond what those people have would be taxed at an extremely high rate according to you because what they have is all that people "need", and everything beyond that is a "luxury", right? Why do you want further government corruption and waste infiltrating and controlling another part of American life? You think "legal and heavily tax and regulated by the government" is better than illegal, so it's a "compromise"? Like an "assault weapon" ban and de facto no carry in public based on a fake law are "compromises" compared to banning all guns and banning public carry?

Cause I actually want some form of government and it needs to be funded?  You know that great military we got, it aint running on donations.  Everything can be taxed to an extent.  Things like "sin tax"  "Luxury tax" can be taxed for higher amounts.  If you own a million dollar house, yes you should be taxed more than a dude living in a shack.  If you own a Ferrari you should pay more taxes than the dude rolling in a 1990 Camry.  This is all relative it should not be an extreme difference.  But to tax everyone exactly the same is dumb, or no taxes at all. We all need government without it we wouldn't have a country.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2017, 12:00:02 AM »
Cause I actually want some form of government and it needs to be funded?  You know that great military we got, it aint running on donations.  Everything can be taxed to an extent.  Things like "sin tax"  "Luxury tax" can be taxed for higher amounts.  If you own a million dollar house, yes you should be taxed more than a dude living in a shack.  If you own a Ferrari you should pay more taxes than the dude rolling in a 1990 Camry.  This is all relative it should not be an extreme difference.  But to tax everyone exactly the same is dumb, or no taxes at all. We all need government without it we wouldn't have a country.

How are your math skills?

Let's say we tax everyone the same rate who earn above a certain level above the poverty line, like 14%.

Family #1 makes $50K and pays taxes of $7K.

Family #2 makes $75K and pays taxes of $10.5K.

Family #3 makes $100K and pays taxes of $14K.

So, everyone CAN pay the same tax RATE without all the exemptions, deductions and credits and still satisfy your belief that those who make more owe society more.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2017, 01:30:56 AM »
How are your math skills?

Let's say we tax everyone the same rate who earn above a certain level above the poverty line, like 14%.

Family #1 makes $50K and pays taxes of $7K.

Family #2 makes $75K and pays taxes of $10.5K.

Family #3 makes $100K and pays taxes of $14K.

So, everyone CAN pay the same tax RATE without all the exemptions, deductions and credits and still satisfy your belief that those who make more owe society more.

There is a reason for tiered taxes.  (assuming each family is a family of 4) (they are both working no welfare queens)

Lets say family #4 makes 1,000,000 now we tax them at 14% thats140k  net earings is 860k
Lets say family #5 makes 10,000,000 now we tax them at 14% thats 1.4mil net earnings is 8.6mil
Lets say family #6 makes 100,000,000 now we tax them at 14% thats 14mil net earnings is 86mil

Now the poor families are struggling paying 7k out of 50k means they have 43k left.  Now with rent, food, school and everything they can't afford that all.
When you get to 100k thats were the family is basically making it even.  They don't really have a savings.  You actually think its fair that everyone pays the same?
The best tier system is similar to what we have now.  I would say people in povery are still able to move out.  And the really rich can equalize the system.
0-25k 0% taxes
25-50k 7%
50-100k 14%
100-250k 20%
250-1000k 25%
1000k+ 33%

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Schumer Calls On Jeff Sessions To Resign As Attorney General
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2017, 02:31:54 AM »
There is a reason for tiered taxes.  (assuming each family is a family of 4) (they are both working no welfare queens)

Lets say family #4 makes 1,000,000 now we tax them at 14% thats140k  net earings is 860k
Lets say family #5 makes 10,000,000 now we tax them at 14% thats 1.4mil net earnings is 8.6mil
Lets say family #6 makes 100,000,000 now we tax them at 14% thats 14mil net earnings is 86mil

Now the poor families are struggling paying 7k out of 50k means they have 43k left.  Now with rent, food, school and everything they can't afford that all.
When you get to 100k thats were the family is basically making it even.  They don't really have a savings.  You actually think its fair that everyone pays the same?
The best tier system is similar to what we have now.  I would say people in povery are still able to move out.  And the really rich can equalize the system.
0-25k 0% taxes
25-50k 7%
50-100k 14%
100-250k 20%
250-1000k 25%
1000k+ 33%

Why did you create three more families only to argue over my numbers?

The numbers are hypothetical and not adjusted for Hawaii.  The rate would be the same in all states, so saying a family can't live on $43K/year isn't correct for all locations.

We can argue where the line should be and what the percentage could be set at, but to say a progressive tax schedule is justified because you think we need to "equalize the system" is crazy.

I was talking regular income earners.  Businesses could be under a different schedule rate.  Businesses, after all, would benefit most by not having to deal with the recordkeeping and reporting nightmares that costs the nation billions of dollars annually for IRS compliance.  Put that money into the pockets of the owners and employees instead of accountants and lawyers.  I know they need to earn a living, too, but how productive are those jobs in the economy when it comes to growth?

Progressive tax schedules penalize the individual for succeeding.  A flat rate would increase that amount due the IRS AND without all the deductions and exemptions, it would ensure they actually pay it instead of claiming a bunch of deductions to avoid paying.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw