There are those that believe North Korea doesn't have the right stuff to start things let alone do any real harm.  Well, I think what they do have is capable of enough and who is to say they can't get something from someone who does have the right stuff.

I guess this may be the next step?

http://www.anonews.co/kim-jong-un/

Underestimating NK capabilities would be foolish.  For over 15 years we have been fighting goat herders and dirt farmers who are using pieced together weapons and ordinance from wars of years past and no resolution in the near future.  Imagine what it would be like to fight an army of over 1 million and over 7 times that number in reserve, who have more modern weapons than even our adversaries have in the middle east.  NK could literally make a blitzkrieg push all the way into Seoul and we couldn't react quickly enough to stop it.

There is no guessing what a crazy regime like NK would, or would not do, especially if they were to get to a point of "use it, or lose it" when it comes to military resources.

There is no need to land war them.  Just drone and bomb everything and they will fall apart on their own.

That is a very naive view.  But since you have it figured out, can you help them fix the middle east issues.

There is no need to land war them.  Just drone and bomb everything and they will fall apart on their own.

That is a very naive view.  But since you have it figured out, can you help them fix the middle east issues.

How well did that work in  afaganisttan and Iraq ?

Boots on the ground win wars, we had to few troops and to many ROEs to with. The middle east

NK has around 70 diesel electric submarines.

Load a nuke on 1 or 2, drive them of the coast of Hawaii and launch a missile (NK) has been seen testing sub launched missiles.

Or

Mount a nuke to a toroedo and launch it into the enterance of pearl and/or Honolulu harbor.

Or

Drop the nuke of shore 2-3 mikes and set it on a timber

Or

what I would think the most likely. Take a nuke to sea, transfer it to a container ship Sistine for the US and blow it up in the harbor.

We don't need to do this as I said before.  We bomb north korea, they starve and infight.  Most likely once we kill the leadership they will revolt and do a revolution.  After that they would welcome the US with open arms.

The DPRK will never stave as long as China is there to feed them.  If the leadership of the current regime is somehow killed/overthrown/etc., China will not allow any Pro-US government to take over.  Should the US militarily participate in a Bush-like regime change or Soros-like sponsored color revolution, WWIII will begin as China will not allow any hostile force to base itself opposite their border on the Yalu River.  Remember the reasons that led to the Korean War in 1950.


Kuleana

Omnigun you either have a world view and / or a life that has given you an orientation that is so completely contrary to what I find to be reasonable, or you are a classic www. joker pulling a hoax on this forums membership.  If your posts are here are serious, or if you are pulling everyone's leg and it entertains you, either way I just don't have the time or desire to participate in the shenanigans.  Good luck.

Both countries import vast amounts of food. 
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2014/05/china-us-food-pork-wine-export-import
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackperkowski/2013/04/25/feeding-chinas-population/#11cee8d62941
http://www.nkeconwatch.com/category/food/

Please do tell me how a country of 1.4 billion people keep order when millions are starving to death?

Your articles do confirm your assertion that China has become a great importer of food.  What you fail to mention is that most of what it imports is discretionary food stuffs to meet the needs of the changing tastes of Chinese consumers to more Western inspired foods.  Those articles do not comment whether China can or cannot survive on the foods it imports.  Big difference.

Also, famines and food shortages are nothing new to China.  In fact, China was facing food shortages during the Korean War in 1950 against the Americans and that did not stop the PLA from defeating General MacArthur during the Winter.


Please do tell me then how this country will aid another country when its own country is starving assuming they both declare war on the USA.  In this situation I doubt they will either get much international support.  Starvation and revolutions are very hard to stop in oppressed countries.

China will not declare war on the US, China will be aiding the DPRK as they did in 1950.  Similar in 1950, Russia will support China, but it is doubtful who outside of Japan will support an American imperialist military regime change operation in the DPRK.


People need food and water to live,  after either is gone society deteriorates quite quickly.  That combined with north korea and china to some extent of massive amounts of unsatisfied people who are only kept in check by fear of power.  China has taiwan, tibet and internal issues.  Korea has many internal issues with its labor camps and other social problems.  Now picture the army that kept them in check, and the citizens thrown in chaos with bombing of food and military.  The whole country would be pushed off the edge and break down quite quickly.   

That is what Hitler thought of Stalin's USSR prior to Operation Barbarossa.  That is what General MacArthur thought when his forces crossed the 38th parallel to invade DPRK and China, thereafter.  Both men underestimated the resolve of both countries when faced with external imperial invasion.


So in the most ideal situation the people of north korea rise up and overthrow their corrupt government and then make peace,  we restore ties and feed everyone and make a new ally.  China I doubt will get involved cause they cant win a war with us.  They simply do not have the resources to fight one.  We have more military,  larger food and energy reserves, etc.

If you think the US is the peace loving humanitarian country that can feed the DPRK when FEMA could not even take care of the survivors of Hurricane Katrina, I do not know what to say.  Also, you are very incorrect with the military capabilities of today's China.  You say China does not have the resources to fight the US, I counter that it is the US that does not have the manpower nor resources to fight a conventional war with China.  You truly believe the US has enough infantry to invade China?  If US forces cannot defeat ISIS, what can it do to a nuclear armed power?  If the greatest US WWII General MacArthur could not defeat China in 1950, what can the US do in 2017?


Kuleana