North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii (Read 230268 times)

omnigun

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #180 on: April 13, 2017, 03:01:59 PM »
You need to emphasize the ASSETS part of what you said. Otherwise people may think you meant ASSISTS:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

lol spell check/auto correct got me again.  I swear it gets less accurate every update

Jl808

North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #181 on: April 13, 2017, 08:42:00 PM »
FBI - I can relate to your disgust and I am not a fan of the Democrats either but the last post crossed the line.
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macsak

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #182 on: April 13, 2017, 10:33:31 PM »
Yeah, I am sure there is PLENTY of assets already in the area to take care of business.  I just found it interesting that two more ships (I think destroyers) were headed to the area when there was already a carrier group on the way.  That's on top of the assets that are already in the area on a regular/permanent basis.

not only 2 destroyers...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/13/us-air-force-sends-message-to-north-korea-with-display-air-power.html

drck1000

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #183 on: April 13, 2017, 10:49:02 PM »
not only 2 destroyers...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/13/us-air-force-sends-message-to-north-korea-with-display-air-power.html
I saw that posted via "other" sites, so I wasn't sure what to make of it, if it was for real.


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troy tanaka

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #184 on: April 14, 2017, 08:44:59 AM »
DonaldTrump is beginning to grow on me, I mean he can't run the country but he knows how to take on bullies around the world. Trump got the bombs, mind as well use it, now all he gotta do is legalize bazookas in the country ;)

drck1000

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #185 on: April 14, 2017, 09:23:22 AM »
lol spell check/auto correct got me again.  I swear it gets less accurate every update
Well, another guy posted edition when I know he meant addition. . .

drck1000

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #186 on: April 14, 2017, 09:25:58 AM »
DonaldTrump is beginning to grow on me, I mean he can't run the country but he knows how to take on bullies around the world. Trump got the bombs, mind as well use it, now all he gotta do is legalize bazookas in the country ;)
He does what he says he would, well in most cases. 

They were talking about that on NPR this morning.  About the promises that Trump has been keeping and other that he has changes his stance on, like NATO and China being currency manipulators.  However, his stances changed AFTER meeting with NATO and meeting with Chinese officials.  He's doing at least some level of due diligence and not really going off half cocked.  When there are parts of this country that are surprised that Trump is fulfilling his promises, that only highlights the many bait and switch shit that others have done that we've gotten used to. 

drck1000

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #187 on: April 14, 2017, 09:42:59 AM »
You need to emphasize the ASSETS part of what you said. Otherwise people may think you meant ASSISTS:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I'm a mod on another gun board where there's this total truck driver hillbilly.  No punctuation, spells words like how a hillbilly would speak, etc.  I've gotten used to figuring out what he means. . .

That said, I was wondering if he really meant assists.  As in assist in the support of the mission.  Well, that doesn't quite work.  Hey, it's Friday. . .

FBI

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #188 on: April 14, 2017, 11:11:22 AM »
FBI - I can relate to your disgust and I am not a fan of the Democrats either but the last post crossed the line.

Other than bad mouthing cops directly,  and after reading hundreds of
personal back and forth, comments ,  I am not aware of any "lines" on this site.
I understand that every thing I post is public and I am responsible for my
words.
 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #189 on: April 14, 2017, 11:22:07 AM »
Other than bad mouthing cops directly,  and after reading hundreds of
personal back and forth, comments ,  I am not aware of any "lines" on this site.
I understand that every thing I post is public and I am responsible for my
words.

The mods are very subjective in their censorship.  Some people get to post anything they feel like, hijack threads, argue the same point over and over, etc., yet others can't defend themselves against personal attacks without having their comments deleted.

Equal application of the standards doesn't exist.

 :stopjack:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Jl808

North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #190 on: April 14, 2017, 12:33:45 PM »
Flapp Jackson -- yes we are somewhat lax with moderating. I personally don't care to police your and EFF's bickering.  If we were a stickler with your bickering, you would have been banned a long time ago.  If you want to continue bickering and making a fool of yourselves, be my guest.  You guys can argue and throw words at each other till you're blue in the face, it makes no difference to me.

FBI -- calling for the death of a group of people just because you disagree with their politics crosses the line.
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Inspector

SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #192 on: April 14, 2017, 01:19:45 PM »
:stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:

Here is an interesting article that is on topic...

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/35152446/hawaii-panel-asks-state-to-prepare-for-north-korea-attack?utm_content=buffer1cb0d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
We were talking about this at lunch today.  Doesn't it make you feel so much safer to throw money to study this? 

FBI

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #193 on: April 14, 2017, 01:21:01 PM »
Flapp Jackson -- yes we are somewhat lax with moderating. I personally don't care to police your and EFF's bickering.  If we were a stickler with your bickering, you would have been banned a long time ago.  If you want to continue bickering and making a fool of yourselves, be my guest.  You guys can argue and throw words at each other till you're blue in the face, it makes no difference to me.

FBI -- calling for the death of a group of people just because you disagree with their politics crosses the line.

The biggest threat to my heath, safety, and welfare is the government.
Here Democrats run the government un-checked, by anything.
It is not a matter of politics.  There is no such thing here.
It is all raw force, exercised by a single Party.  I cross no lines.
I point out the reality and acknowledge who the enemy is.
Democrats are the government and the government is not people.

Inspector

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #194 on: April 14, 2017, 01:27:21 PM »
We were talking about this at lunch today.  Doesn't it make you feel so much safer to throw money to study this?
What money? We are already passing spending bills taking us over budget. I guess we can just raise property taxes some more?

"He's aiming to get state funding to re-equip Cold War-era fallout shelters."

Can you imagine the mold in those shelters? Assuming they are not already falling apart. I guess they can just paint the whole place with KILLZ and say it's good to go.

"Hawaii Emergency Management Agency Executive Officer Toby Clairmont showed lawmakers a response plan from 1985 that hasn't been updated since."

I predict it will take another 10 years to update the plan....

To answer your question, NO!!!
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #195 on: April 14, 2017, 02:05:23 PM »
Flapp Jackson -- yes we are somewhat lax with moderating. I personally don't care to police your and EFF's bickering.  If we were a stickler with your bickering, you would have been banned a long time ago.  If you want to continue bickering and making a fool of yourselves, be my guest.  You guys can argue and throw words at each other till you're blue in the face, it makes no difference to me.

FBI -- calling for the death of a group of people just because you disagree with their politics crosses the line.

Since I mentioned no names, it's obvious we are all aware of the offender that continues to  be given wide latitude.

Not my place to tell you how to moderate, but inconsistency is a bad thing.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

punaperson

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #196 on: April 15, 2017, 06:09:55 AM »
Today is the 48th anniversary (April 15, 1969) of the North Korean shooting down of an American NSA radar/spyplane (known as "the EC-121 shootdown") over the Sea of Japan, in which all 31 aboard were killed. I'm listening to "One Man Against the World: The Tragedy of Richard Nixon" by Tim Weiner, who has gone through many thousands of the formerly secret documents released to the public in 2013. These documents include official government documents as well as private notes and diaries, etc. of many top-ranking people (Kissinger, Haldeman, etc.) involved in the Nixon administration.

Apparently the Pentagon favored using 30 megaton nuclear warheads in retaliation. There were other military options, but Nixon did nothing, except send a fleet of American warships into the Sea of Japan (sound familiar?). Nixon later stated that his lack of serious, immediate military action against North Korea was his greatest regret of his presidency.

As a note on the general Nixon presidency: what a huge stinking pile of lies and deceit (hard to imagine, but even worse than we knew).

robtmc

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #197 on: April 15, 2017, 07:53:29 AM »
Today is the 48th anniversary (April 15, 1969) of the North Korean shooting down of an American NSA radar/spyplane (known as "the EC-121 shootdown") over the Sea of Japan, in which all 31 aboard were killed. I'm listening to "One Man Against the World: The Tragedy of Richard Nixon" by Tim Weiner, who has gone through many thousands of the formerly secret documents released to the public in 2013. These documents include official government documents as well as private notes and diaries, etc. of many top-ranking people (Kissinger, Haldeman, etc.) involved in the Nixon administration.

Apparently the Pentagon favored using 30 megaton nuclear warheads in retaliation. There were other military options, but Nixon did nothing, except send a fleet of American warships into the Sea of Japan (sound familiar?). Nixon later stated that his lack of serious, immediate military action against North Korea was his greatest regret of his presidency.

As a note on the general Nixon presidency: what a huge stinking pile of lies and deceit (hard to imagine, but even worse than we knew).

Was still up at Quang Tri, getting very short when this happened.  Never knew about this incident as with much of anything happening in the real world.

I should read up on it as you did.  Nixon was never someone I liked, and my dislike urged me to vote against him in my first election in 1972.  Only democrat vote, ever.

punaperson

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #198 on: April 15, 2017, 11:40:40 AM »
Was still up at Quang Tri, getting very short when this happened.  Never knew about this incident as with much of anything happening in the real world.

I should read up on it as you did.  Nixon was never someone I liked, and my dislike urged me to vote against him in my first election in 1972.  Only democrat vote, ever.
I'm only a few chapters in, but I really appreciate the enormous amount of work the author did to go through the literal tons of material released in 2013. Here are a few excerpted paragraphs... they are supplemented with lots of personal statements by the actors.
 * * * * *
Haldeman stayed on the plane, making sure that Nixon’s orders were executed. Even Haldeman, who knew Nixon’s taste for intrigue as well as anyone, was amazed. The plans Kissinger carried out that day were “so secret at the time that I was afraid to say anything,” Haldeman wrote in his personal diary. He felt he was “entering an entire new world.”

The flight records for the B-52 bombers carrying out the attacks would be falsified by the top American commander in Saigon, Gen. Creighton Abrams. His accomplice would be the commander of American forces in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, whose son, later a senator, was a prisoner of war in Vietnam.

“In order to set the stage for a possible covert attack, and clear the books on this matter within the Bureaucracy, we should send a message to General Abrams authorizing him to bomb right up to the Cambodian border,” Kissinger told Nixon in writing before the plans were executed. A routine request for a B-52 strike on a Communist target in South Vietnam would serve as a cover for a Menu strike in Cambodia. The B-52 pilots and navigators (not the rest of the crew) would receive secret orders from ground controllers directing them to strike targets inside Cambodia. On the bombers’ return, two sets of flight reports would be filed, one true, one false.

The full scope of the destruction the United States unleashed on Cambodia remained unrevealed for three decades, due to the deliberate falsification of the bombing records, authorized by Nixon and executed by Kissinger, Haig, and General Abrams. The falsification violated the military laws of the United States. The bombing of a neutral nation arguably violated the laws of war.

Between March 1969 and August 1973, America dropped 2,756,727 tons of bombs on Cambodia. That figure was nearly five times greater than previously known, exceeding the tonnage of all Allied bombing during World War II, including Hiroshima and Nagasaki. No one knows how many Cambodian civilians were killed, perhaps one hundred fifty thousand.


Flapp_Jackson

Re: North Korea Could Soon Launch Attack on Hawaii
« Reply #199 on: April 15, 2017, 03:47:27 PM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw