NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere) (Read 18244 times)

changemyoil66

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2017, 03:52:03 PM »
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dafrtknocker

whynow?

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2017, 09:49:05 PM »
Coming to all sanctuary crap holes including HI.   18 y.o. in 9th grade?  If no paperwork they could be 21 y.o.   like this UK family found out.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2030373/migrant-foster-mum-reveals-her-horror-at-discovering-12-year-old-refugee-in-her-care-is-actually-a-21-year-old-jihadi/

Flapp_Jackson

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2017, 09:55:31 PM »
Coming to all sanctuary crap holes including HI.   18 y.o. in 9th grade?  If no paperwork they could be 21 y.o.   like this UK family found out.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2030373/migrant-foster-mum-reveals-her-horror-at-discovering-12-year-old-refugee-in-her-care-is-actually-a-21-year-old-jihadi/

I bet the Little League coaches would be drooling over these "kids"!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2017, 10:58:38 PM »
The fact that they should/shouldn't have been allowed in school is debatable, since there are lots of illegal immigrant kids who end up assimilating and becoming productive members of society. Plus if you kick them out of school, disconnect them from health services, and chase them around like rats then you end up creating an underground warband culture that festers with crime, disease, and threatens the larger population. We can't keep them all here, but treating them like animals is counterproductive especially when so many businesses depend on them. There's no easy answer.

What's detestable is how certain elements of the Right use this case to illustrate why we should treat all illegals as sub-humans, put them to work for slave wages and then kick them out before they have a chance to get a foothold. We have perfectly legal high school athletes gang raping the shit out of underclassmen/women every day but it all gets covered up and tucked away to promote the shiny veneer of a functional healthy civilization. I mean for crying out loud they let Jerry Sandusky operate for decades, and some people would STILL be looking the other way if they thought he could win more games.

The whole idea of dirty brown people contaminating our perfect white civilization is sickening, completely devoid of factual basis, and should be called out for what it is. We should pray we never get the race war that guys like Steve Bannon are trying so hard to start.
“A Communist system can be recognized by the fact that it spares the criminals and criminalizes the political opponent.”   -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Flapp_Jackson

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2017, 11:05:29 PM »
The fact that they should/shouldn't have been allowed in school is debatable, since there are lots of illegal immigrant kids who end up assimilating and becoming productive members of society. Plus if you kick them out of school, disconnect them from health services, and chase them around like rats then you end up creating an underground warband culture that festers with crime, disease, and threatens the larger population. We can't keep them all here, but treating them like animals is counterproductive especially when so many businesses depend on them. There's no easy answer.

What's detestable is how certain elements of the Right use this case to illustrate why we should treat all illegals as sub-humans, put them to work for slave wages and then kick them out before they have a chance to get a foothold. We have perfectly legal high school athletes gang raping the shit out of underclassmen/women every day but it all gets covered up and tucked away to promote the shiny veneer of a functional healthy civilization. I mean for crying out loud they let Jerry Sandusky operate for decades, and some people would STILL be looking the other way if they thought he could win more games.

The whole idea of dirty brown people contaminating our perfect white civilization is sickening, completely devoid of factual basis, and should be called out for what it is. We should pray we never get the race war that guys like Steve Bannon are trying so hard to start.

Are you suggesting deporting people who came into the country illegally is treating them like animals?  How is that dehumanizing? 

I have no problem with "brown" people, or any other pigmentation.  I do have a problem with working to support our government at many levels and being told we need to pay more in taxes, and services need to be cut for our poor  ...  yet we continue to pay for services for non-citizens.  Limited resources is a real "thing."  It's not an ideology.  Nor is it a means of dehumanizing anyone.

We have a process of entering the country legally.  I am all for that.  We have a problem with open boarders and sanctuary cities and refusal to deport.  I am against those things.  I don't care if the illegal alien came from Iraq, Honduras, Mexico, Australia, or Germany.  So, stop with the calls of racism!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2017, 11:14:17 PM »
Over the past 10 years the US has naturalized over 6.6 million immigrants.

For every person we permit to stay in the country illegally and benefit from our services and welfare programs, we effectively slap each of those naturalized citizens, and all who came before them, in the face!  It's an insult to make those people go through the legal process, and at the same time turn a blind eye to the millions of illegals living and working in the country without so much as a valid visa.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2017, 11:15:14 PM »
The fact that they should/shouldn't have been allowed in school is debatable, since there are lots of illegal immigrant kids who end up assimilating and becoming productive members of society. Plus if you kick them out of school, disconnect them from health services, and chase them around like rats then you end up creating an underground warband culture that festers with crime, disease, and threatens the larger population. We can't keep them all here, but treating them like animals is counterproductive especially when so many businesses depend on them. There's no easy answer.

What's detestable is how certain elements of the Right use this case to illustrate why we should treat all illegals as sub-humans, put them to work for slave wages and then kick them out before they have a chance to get a foothold. We have perfectly legal high school athletes gang raping the shit out of underclassmen/women every day but it all gets covered up and tucked away to promote the shiny veneer of a functional healthy civilization. I mean for crying out loud they let Jerry Sandusky operate for decades, and some people would STILL be looking the other way if they thought he could win more games.

The whole idea of dirty brown people contaminating our perfect white civilization is sickening, completely devoid of factual basis, and should be called out for what it is. We should pray we never get the race war that guys like Steve Bannon are trying so hard to start.

who's forcing tem to work? They came here illegally by their own free will. They could've done it legally like my parents and many others. How do you expect people who come here illegally to obey OUR laws?
How about this?
House an illegal immigrant at your house. You feed them and take care of them. Can't do it? Then don't expect me or your other fellow citizens to take care of these people.
Deeds Not Words

PeaShooter

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2017, 02:58:04 PM »
As long as illegal aliens are paying income, sales, and other taxes, they arguably pay for themselves. The only "illegal" thing they did was enter the country. After that, we can expect they will follow our laws for the same reasons we all follow laws. Police enforcement.

If you favor zero tolerance immigration policy that is your choice. I just think this was a bad example to rely on. It's not confirmed that either immigrant is an illegal alien, or can't speak English. We are forming a lynch mob based on presumed facts just like in "Hands up, don't shoot!"

It's not fair to blame all illegal aliens for the actions of a few while we turn a blind eye to injustices performed by citizens. If we magically made all the illegal aliens vanish, maybe this perfect girl would have lived happily ever after. But all the food made by illegal aliens would also vanish from our bellies, causing an unlucky few to drop dead, the results of which could cause a chain reaction and destroy the entire universe. :-\

Flapp_Jackson

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2017, 03:12:06 PM »
As long as illegal aliens are paying income, sales, and other taxes, they arguably pay for themselves. The only "illegal" thing they did was enter the country. After that, we can expect they will follow our laws for the same reasons we all follow laws. Police enforcement.

If you favor zero tolerance immigration policy that is your choice. I just think this was a bad example to rely on. It's not confirmed that either immigrant is an illegal alien, or can't speak English. We are forming a lynch mob based on presumed facts just like in "Hands up, don't shoot!"

It's not fair to blame all illegal aliens for the actions of a few while we turn a blind eye to injustices performed by citizens. If we magically made all the illegal aliens vanish, maybe this perfect girl would have lived happily ever after. But all the food made by illegal aliens would also vanish from our bellies, causing an unlucky few to drop dead, the results of which could cause a chain reaction and destroy the entire universe. :-\

Most illegals engage in identity theft, because they have no legitimate ID, Social Security numbers, etc. 

So, no, law enforcement doesn't prevent further breaking of US laws by illegals.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2017, 03:14:39 PM »
As long as illegal aliens are paying income, sales, and other taxes, they arguably pay for themselves. The only "illegal" thing they did was enter the country. After that, we can expect they will follow our laws for the same reasons we all follow laws. Police enforcement.

If you favor zero tolerance immigration policy that is your choice. I just think this was a bad example to rely on. It's not confirmed that either immigrant is an illegal alien, or can't speak English. We are forming a lynch mob based on presumed facts just like in "Hands up, don't shoot!"

It's not fair to blame all illegal aliens for the actions of a few while we turn a blind eye to injustices performed by citizens. If we magically made all the illegal aliens vanish, maybe this perfect girl would have lived happily ever after. But all the food made by illegal aliens would also vanish from our bellies, causing an unlucky few to drop dead, the results of which could cause a chain reaction and destroy the entire universe. :-\

I find it very disturbing how you are all about protecting law breaking foreigners in the country illegally than you care about the 14 year old victim of a brutal rape by two males -- one who is a legal adult, and one less than a year shy (if we can believe their information at all).

You are disgusting.

 :wtf:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2017, 03:46:54 PM »
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/22/ann-coulter-now-hit-full-crazy/

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Liberals are ecstatic that a judge in Hawaii is writing immigration policy for the entire country,
and that policy is: We have no right to tell anyone that he can’t live in America.
(Unless they’re Christians — those guys we can keep out.)

As subtly alluded to in the subtitle of Adios, America: The Left’s Plan to Turn Our Country into
a Third World Hellhole,
the goal of liberals is for the poor of the world to have a constitutional
right to come here whenever they want.

I can’t help but notice that the Third Worlders aren’t moving to liberals’ neighborhoods.

After nearly 1 million Rwandans were murdered by other Rwandans in 1994, our government
asked itself: Why not bring more of this fascinating Rwandan culture to America? Ten thousand
of them poured in. So far, nearly 400 have been convicted in the United States of lying on visa
applications about their role in the genocide.

And that’s why we have to tighten our belt, America! Massive international investigations don’t
come cheap.

Almost every immigration case is a con, something we find out every time there’s a San Bernardino
shooting and half the familyturns out to have scammed our immigration officials.
One hundred percent of the “humanitarian” cases are frauds.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

punaperson

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2017, 05:42:23 PM »
As long as illegal aliens are paying income, sales, and other taxes, they arguably pay for themselves.

Show us the evidence you have regarding what percentage of illegal aliens pay income taxes, and the total amount they pay. Show us what evidence you have regarding what percentage of illegal aliens pay "other taxes". Show us what evidence you have that leads you to believe that "arguably" them paying those taxes amounts to "paying for themselves" in terms of total taxpayer-funded services they use. Show us what evidence you have that all the taxes paid by illegal aliens pays for what percentage of all the taxpayer-funded services used by all illegal aliens.

The only "illegal" thing they did was enter the country.

Are you implying, by using the word "only", that that illegal act is inconsequential, and inconsequential to the degree that illegal entry ought not be prosecuted? Do you believe that "open borders" should be the case, and that free movement of any person from any place to any other place without regard to previously existing "national borders" and without any kind of "qualifying" or "disqualifying" criteria should apply? Do you have the same belief about your own home and your resources therein? Why or why not? I mean, all that uninvited person did was enter your home illegally, or, in your words: The only "illegal" thing they did was enter the home.

After that, we can expect they will follow our laws for the same reasons we all follow laws. Police enforcement.

So you contend that their ignoring the law enforcement threat regarding not following our laws by their illegal entry into the country is irrelevant to their willingness to break/not follow other laws (such as having fraudulent identification, driver's license, social security cards, etc.)? Why? Show us your evidence.

If you favor zero tolerance immigration policy that is your choice.

And you favoring total open borders, and your open home, is your choice. If you favor the first, and not the latter, please explain.

I just think this was a bad example to rely on. It's not confirmed that either immigrant is an illegal alien,

Most news accounts suggest that due to his being temporarily retained by ICE, and testimony of ICE personnel, suggest that it's likely the older one is an illegal. We don't know about the younger one because at 17 his records are protected due to his age. What evidence do you have to suggest that they are either or both legal aliens?

 or can't speak English.

Most news accounts suggest that the reason for and 18 and 17 year old to be assigned to ninth grade was due to their very poor English language skills. What evidence do you have to the contrary? Are you claiming that they are fluent English speakers? If so, why were they assigned to ninth grade at their ages? Evidence?

We are forming a lynch mob based on presumed facts just like in "Hands up, don't shoot!"

Yeah, just like that. Except in that case there was video footage and witness testimony that proved that that claim was a lie. Are you suggesting that there is some indisputable evidence in this case?

It's not fair to blame all illegal aliens for the actions of a few

Who's blaming all illegal aliens for the actions of a few? Or are you suggesting that people claiming that illegal aliens are illegal aliens is "not fair"? If they are "illegal", shouldn't they be subject to the laws they broke? if not, why not?

 while we turn a blind eye to injustices performed by citizens.

So no injustices by citizens are recognized? They are all swept under the carpet? Show us the evidence for what percentage of citizen crimes/injustices are not recognized. And even if every single American citizen turned a "blind eye" to crimes committed by fellow citizens, that doesn't make rape and sodomy not a crime that should be punished, it just means that the people wh o ignore crimes by fellow citizens would be some kind or degree of hypocrites for wanting the law enforced in one case and not the other. And, again, show us your evidence for your "blind eye" claim.

If we magically made all the illegal aliens vanish, maybe this perfect girl would have lived happily ever after.

Who said she was "perfect"? Are you suggesting "she asked for it"? Who suggested she "would have lived happily ever after"? Can you see that there is something of a broad spectrum between "living happily ever after" and being raped and sodomized at the age of 14 by two older stronger rapists? Perhaps someday someone will have the opportunity to make the same snide and demeaning remarks about you or someone close to you who has been so victimized, and you will get to taste that.

But all the food made by illegal aliens would also vanish from our bellies,

Show us the evidence of how much food in our stomachs is there, and would only be there, due to illegal aliens.

causing an unlucky few to drop dead,

Again, show us the evidence that some people are so dependent on illegal alien-derived food that without it they would starve to death, and that the same food wouldn't be available in sufficient quantities to sustain human life if illegal aliens "magically disappeared".

the results of which could cause a chain reaction and destroy the entire universe. :-\

Haha. Your whole post is really funny.

ren

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2017, 06:11:28 PM »
As long as illegal aliens are paying income, sales, and other taxes, they arguably pay for themselves. The only "illegal" thing they did was enter the country. After that, we can expect they will follow our laws for the same reasons we all follow laws. Police enforcement.

If you favor zero tolerance immigration policy that is your choice. I just think this was a bad example to rely on. It's not confirmed that either immigrant is an illegal alien, or can't speak English. We are forming a lynch mob based on presumed facts just like in "Hands up, don't shoot!"

It's not fair to blame all illegal aliens for the actions of a few while we turn a blind eye to injustices performed by citizens. If we magically made all the illegal aliens vanish, maybe this perfect girl would have lived happily ever after. But all the food made by illegal aliens would also vanish from our bellies, causing an unlucky few to drop dead, the results of which could cause a chain reaction and destroy the entire universe. :-\

your perspective is disturbing.
This perfect girl you are describing was raped by all means evil.
Your expectation of ILLEGAL immigrants is very naive. They didn't respect our laws with the very FIRST step they took on the USA and that is the premise you "expect" them to follow the laws after that? Do they even know about our laws? When a person applies for citizenship they are educated about our society, our laws and government. Did these ILLEGAL immigrants learn about America before they broke our immigration laws?
What they did was seeing the fruits of their neighbors they went ahead and stole it from them. They are the neighbor that saw your mango tree and mangos and decided fuck it I'm just gonna climb this fence and take 'em.
Deeds Not Words

PeaShooter

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2017, 10:03:09 AM »
I did not insist that illegal aliens would follow our laws. I just said they have the same fundamental motivation to follow laws that the rest of us do, which is that the police and government may give them a hard time if they don't. There are citizens who don't like this country, our laws, and our government. Most of the people who steal my fruit are hawaiians, but the worst ones turned out to be chinese after they were caught. Probably citizens. :-\

Show us the evidence you have regarding what percentage of illegal aliens pay income taxes, and the total amount they pay...

I think the burden of proof is equal on both sides, that's why I simply said it was an "arguable" point.

Are you implying, by using the word "only", that that illegal act is inconsequential, and inconsequential to the degree that illegal entry ought not be prosecuted? Do you believe that open borders should be the case...

I do not imply that. And I never said that I believed open borders should be the case. In fact I may think like ren and others when it comes to immigration policy. But it's for certain reasons that you and he gave, not because of this "bad example" school girl case.

Who's blaming all illegal aliens for the actions of a few? Or are you suggesting that people claiming that illegal aliens...

The lynch mob rationale related to this school girl case blames all illegal aliens for the actions of a few. The other separate claims and reasons don't do this.

Show us the evidence that some people are so dependent on illegal alien-derived food that without it they would starve to death...

One would not necessarily have to be dependent on illegal alien derived food for regular sustenance. In this "alternate reality" philosophical scenario a person might die from accidentally forgetting to eat for a concentrated time span even if they would otherwise get plenty of nutrition.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2017, 10:27:28 AM »
I did not insist that illegal aliens would follow our laws. I just said they have the same fundamental motivation to follow laws that the rest of us do, which is that the police and government may give them a hard time if they don't. There are citizens who don't like this country, our laws, and our government. Most of the people who steal my fruit are hawaiians, but the worst ones turned out to be chinese after they were caught. Probably citizens. :-\

Show us the evidence you have regarding what percentage of illegal aliens pay income taxes, and the total amount they pay...

I think the burden of proof is equal on both sides, that's why I simply said it was an "arguable" point.

Wrong.  You made the assertion.  Therefore, the burden is on you to support your assertion with actual facts.

Are you implying, by using the word "only", that that illegal act is inconsequential, and inconsequential to the degree that illegal entry ought not be prosecuted? Do you believe that open borders should be the case...

I do not imply that. And I never said that I believed open borders should be the case. In fact I may think like ren and others when it comes to immigration policy. But it's for certain reasons that you and he gave, not because of this "bad example" school girl case.

Who's blaming all illegal aliens for the actions of a few? Or are you suggesting that people claiming that illegal aliens...

The lynch mob rationale related to this school girl case blames all illegal aliens for the actions of a few. The other separate claims and reasons don't do this.

WRONG AGAIN!  Just because you say that does not make it true.  Your characterization is inaccurate.  The "mob" is stating this would not have happened had OLDER ILLEGALS not been allowed to be at that school.  This is not a case of blaming all illegals for the actions of a few.  This is a case of the "mob" blaming the school, local government, federal government, and mainly Liberals for IGNORING IMMIGRATION LAWS, which permitted this case to even occur.  We are all the collection of our decisions in life.  The school is now responsible for allowing non-English-speaking ILLEGALS to attend classes which are not age-appropriate.  Period.

Show us the evidence that some people are so dependent on illegal alien-derived food that without it they would starve to death...

One would not necessarily have to be dependent on illegal alien derived food for regular sustenance. In this "alternate reality" philosophical scenario a person might die from accidentally forgetting to eat for a concentrated time span even if they would otherwise get plenty of nutrition.

The myth that the nation would not have food if illegals were not here to help grow and harvest is just that -- a myth.  Plenty of companies hire US-only workers as the law REQUIRES, or they buy machinery to compensate for labor.  Americans hiring Americans is preferred to saving $25 a month on your grocery bill.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

PeaShooter

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2017, 10:58:56 AM »
No, the burden of proof is actually on you, because you are the one who brought up the initial assertion that your tax dollars pay for the education and upkeep of illegal aliens. However, I am being lenient and am willing to let the burden of proof be equal on both sides. Furthermore, I am willing to let the point stand contested by saying it's arguable. If you are not, then all burden of proof is on you.

The "mob" doesn't actually know what would happen if illegal aliens are not allowed to go to school. That was one of my subtle points. Maybe one of the immigrants is not an illegal alien. And even if they are both illegal, maybe they would still have gone to the same school before they could be captured. Maybe this particular girl would have been saved, but citizens would reproduce in greater numbers causing another girl somewhere else to undergo the same experience at the hands of American citizens. Would people really drop dead because they didn't eat? These are "alternate world" arguments which cannot be confirmed.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2017, 11:10:20 AM »
No, the burden of proof is actually on you, because you are the one who brought up the initial assertion that your tax dollars pay for the education and upkeep of illegal aliens. However, I am being lenient and am willing to let the burden of proof be equal on both sides. Furthermore, I am willing to let the point stand contested by saying it's arguable. If you are not, then all burden of proof is on you.

The "mob" doesn't actually know what would happen if illegal aliens are not allowed to go to school. That was one of my subtle points. Maybe one of the immigrants is not an illegal alien. And even if they are both illegal, maybe they would still have gone to the same school before they could be captured. Maybe this particular girl would have been saved, but citizens would reproduce in greater numbers causing another girl somewhere else to undergo the same experience at the hands of American citizens. Would people really drop dead because they didn't eat? These are "alternate world" arguments which cannot be confirmed.

The illegal aliens need to be deported, not sent to US schools!  Your subtle point is ridiculous.  Instead of following the law, let's make sure the law breakers are educated so they don't have to break more laws.  That's resigning yourself to a situation instead of fixing the situation.

As for cost, the numbers are available.  These are 9 years old, so I'm sure they are much worse today......

The Costs of Illegal Immigration In Maryland

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Maryland’s illegal immigrant population costs the
state’s taxpayers more than $1.4 billion per year for education,
medical care and incarceration. The annual
fiscal burden amounts to about $790 per Maryland
household headed by a native-born resident.

http://www.fairus.org/site/DocServer/md_costsw.pdf
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

PeaShooter

Re: NOT FOUND ON FAKE NEWS (anywhere)
« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2017, 02:37:57 PM »
If I accept the numbers of that particular study, which are gross estimates according to the document itself, then yes the illegal aliens cost Maryland taxpayers $1.4 billion. That same document also states, buried at the end, that they estimate the illegal aliens pay $200 million in taxes back. (They throw in multiple factors of 2 to make the numbers come out how they want. I think the illegal aliens pay at least $400 million according to their data). They state that yields a net cost of $1.2 billion, but also give their opinion that none of the taxes the illegal aliens pay should count for anything. I don't agree with that opinion.

Paying even $200 million in taxes back is arguably enough. It's an opinion (not necessarily mine). Because any poor person in America, whether a citizen or illegal alien, would fall into the same category of being a "burden to society."

Having said all that, note that I may agree with you in the end. I am not criticizing anyone's tough views on immigration policy as a whole, only the rationale on display regarding this school story. If the illegal aliens can be deported more effectively, by all means go for it. I do however think that if they are not deported, while they are in this country they should be allowed to go to school, especially because they do pay taxes.