Are you guys okay with this? (Read 47430 times)

rklapp

Are you guys okay with this?
« on: April 25, 2017, 01:49:54 PM »
Right or wrong, I was curious if you guys are okay with this.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/856172056932700164
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2017, 01:53:36 PM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

westside22

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2017, 01:59:40 PM »
The idea of paying for the wall by Mexico at least by me was never taken seriously. HOWEVER the increases of tarrifs/taxes to be paid by Mexico would in reality cause them to "pay for the wall".

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;-)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2017, 02:07:24 PM »
The idea of paying for the wall by Mexico at least by me was never taken seriously. HOWEVER the increases of tarrifs/taxes to be paid by Mexico would in reality cause them to "pay for the wall".

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If we can get rid of the total number of illegals just in Kommiefornia, the savings from ONE YEAR will pay for the entire wall.

The cost of taking care of the Mexicans deported will then fall to Mexico.

No matter how you slice it, we get the wall, and Mexico gets the bill!

It amuses me how the people who want to spend us into oblivion for their pet projects suddenly worry about the money to pay for border security we have been promised for decades!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Tom_G

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2017, 02:15:41 PM »
Ok with what?
Are we OK with the idea of building a wall?
Are we OK with the idea that the US might have to foot the bill?
Are we OK with the idea that Trump assures us Mexico will pay "in some way?"
The difference between theory and reality is that, in theory, there is no difference between theory and reality.

westside22

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2017, 02:20:47 PM »
The idea of making it a fence and stop calling it "a wall" would make it cheaper and easier to accept.

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omnigun

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2017, 02:25:56 PM »
We need the wall now not later if he doesn't do it this budget it will never be done.  Not ok with this.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2017, 02:29:27 PM »
We need the wall now not later if he doesn't do it this budget it will never be done.  Not ok with this.

Did you read the tweet?  Do you not understand "...so we can get started early?"
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2017, 03:26:05 PM »
Did you read the tweet?  Do you not understand "...so we can get started early?"

"but at a later date"

Early but not now.  aka never

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2017, 03:44:02 PM »
"but at a later date"

Early but not now.  aka never

later date ==> when Mexico will pay

get started early ==> build the wall

Trying to explain simple English to you is like herding cats!

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Tom_G

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2017, 04:13:17 PM »
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Eventually, but at a later date so we can get started early, Mexico riders will be paying, in some form, for the badly needed border wall rail transit system.

I KNEW this looked familiar!
The difference between theory and reality is that, in theory, there is no difference between theory and reality.

rklapp

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2017, 04:25:38 PM »
Ok with what?
Are we OK with the idea of building a wall?
Are we OK with the idea that the US might have to foot the bill?
Are we OK with the idea that Trump assures us Mexico will pay "in some way?"
I know you're okay with building the wall. I personally think we need more tracking dogs and other accouterments to border security rather than a physical wall. I guess with Trump's election, they could use all the polisci books ever written for mortar.

Yes, I'm asking about the other two questions, especially if it ends up shutting down the government this week. He started changing his mind this morning, but it sounded like his plan was to pay now, reimburse later. Not all 52 GOP Senators are okay with it (particularly the border States), and they still have to get 60 total votes to keep the lights on next week.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2017, 04:52:53 PM »
I know you're okay with building the wall. I personally think we need more tracking dogs and other accouterments to border security rather than a physical wall. I guess with Trump's election, they could use all the polisci books ever written for mortar.

Yes, I'm asking about the other two questions, especially if it ends up shutting down the government this week. He started changing his mind this morning, but it sounded like his plan was to pay now, reimburse later. Not all 52 GOP Senators are okay with it (particularly the border States), and they still have to get 60 total votes to keep the lights on next week.

Unless you've lived as a border guard and dealt with the crap they have, you shouldn't say "RATHER THAN a physical wall". 

Only a physical barrier will send the message the US is no longer going to permit illegal entry.  THEN we add the electronic bells and whistles:  acoustic and motion sensors, night vision cameras, a second and third layer of barrier (fences) so someone detected between barriers is not as likely to evade border patrol, maybe even some experimental toys, too....

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2017, 05:32:58 PM »
Ted Cruz: Take El Chapo's $14 billion to pay for the wall

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Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, wants the billions of dollars confiscated from an infamous
Mexican drug lord to finance the construction of a wall on the Mexican-American border.

"Fourteen billion dollars will go a long way toward building a wall that will keep Americans
safe and hinder the illegal flow of drugs, weapons, and individuals across our southern
border," Cruz said Tuesday in a statement unveiling the El Chapo Act, named after the
drug kingpin who was extradited to the United States in January.

Cruz's bill, if implemented as conceived, would provide the $14 billion subject to confiscation
from El Chapo as well as money taken from drug lords arrested in future cases. It's a
bankshot at border funding designed to fulfill the spirit of President Trump's pledge to
"make Mexico pay" for the wall that has gained currency among some Republicans.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ted-cruz-take-el-chapos-14-billion-to-pay-for-the-wall/article/2621250
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rklapp

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2017, 05:49:10 PM »
Unless you've lived as a border guard and dealt with the crap they have, you shouldn't say "RATHER THAN a physical wall". 

Only a physical barrier will send the message the US is no longer going to permit illegal entry.  THEN we add the electronic bells and whistles:  acoustic and motion sensors, night vision cameras, a second and third layer of barrier (fences) so someone detected between barriers is not as likely to evade border patrol, maybe even some experimental toys, too....
You were a border guard along the Mexican border? Do tell...



Mr. "Island in the Pacific" is an idiot.
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omnigun

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2017, 05:58:27 PM »
later date ==> when Mexico will pay

get started early ==> build the wall

Trying to explain simple English to you is like herding cats!



Mexico will never directly pay for the wall.  A trade war would fuck both sides and take a while to pay for it.  In the current budget a real wall can't be build.  It needs to be done in this years funding to actually stand a chance.  Other than that this shits dead in the water if it doesn't get fully funded this budget.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2017, 06:02:32 PM »
Mexico will never directly pay for the wall.  A trade war would fuck both sides and take a while to pay for it.  In the current budget a real wall can't be build.  It needs to be done in this years funding to actually stand a chance.  Other than that this shits dead in the water if it doesn't get fully funded this budget.

This year's budget ends in October.  We are talking about FY2018 budget.  You should study up on how the government works, or else your predictions and opinions might not carry the massive weight they do now!

 :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2017, 06:11:04 PM »
This year's budget ends in October.  We are talking about FY2018 budget.  You should study up on how the government works, or else your predictions and opinions might not carry the massive weight they do now!

 :rofl:

You really are stupid ain'tcha  stop projecting.  This years budget will not build the wall.  IF the budget remains the same the wall ain't being built next year either.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Are you guys okay with this?
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2017, 06:18:03 PM »
You really are stupid ain'tcha  stop projecting.  This years budget will not build the wall.  IF the budget remains the same the wall ain't being built next year either.

Calling me stupid isn't going to make you less wrong.

Why would the budget remain the same?  Trump already saved us billions in Air Force One and other contracts.  He's going to offset tax cuts with the taxes rolling in from capital gains revenue due to a record stock market climb. 

Trump doesn't need to sweat the details.  It'll get done unless another activist judge gets in his way.

Feel free to cry about it all you want!  Trump's been beating the odds since day one of his campaign, and there's no letting up in sight! 

You can either come along for the ride, or get out and walk.  Up to you!   :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw