FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!! (Read 54102 times)

punaperson

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #100 on: May 12, 2017, 08:06:45 AM »
Several sources quoted and linked in the article.

Senators Grassley and Feinstein Confirm Trump Not Part of Russia FBI Investigation…

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/05/12/senators-grassley-and-feinstein-confirm-trump-not-part-of-russia-fbi-investigation/#more-132518

Excerpts:

[Senator Grassley https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-discusses-comey-and-russia-investigation-executive-business-meeting]: "Mr. Comey did brief Ranking Member Feinstein and me on who the targets of the various investigations are. It would not be appropriate for me to reveal those details before the professionals conducting the investigations are ready. So, I will not answer any questions about who are targets of the ongoing Russia investigations. But I will say this: Shortly after Director Comey briefed us, I tweeted that he should be transparent. I said he should tell the public what he told Senator Feinstein and me about whether the FBI is or is not investigating the President."

"On Tuesday, the President’s letter said that Director Comey told him he was not under investigation. Senator Feinstein and I heard nothing that contradicted the President’s statement. Now Mr. Comey is no longer the FBI director. But the FBI should still follow my advice. It should confirm to the public whether it is or is not investigating the President. Because it has failed to make this clear, speculation has run rampant."

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Additionally, John Solomon from Circa News highlights independent reporting, from independent FBI sourcing, that state the exact same thing as Trump, Grassley and Feinstein.

Congressional officials were told by FBI Director James Comey before he was fired that there are just a small number of Americans who are targets of the criminal or counterintelligence probes involving Russia and that none were President Trump or his top aides, Circa has confirmed.

Behind closed doors, Comey provided specific updates on about a half dozen or less targeted US citizens who were the focus of either counterintelligence probes or criminal investigations emanating from the Russia election scandal, sources familiar with the intelligence told Circa.

“President Trump is not a target nor is any senior government official if Comey’s account is correct,” one source said, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because that person was not authorized to comment.  (link:http://circa.com/politics/accountability/james-comey-told-congressional-officials-that-trump-wasnt-a-russian-probe-target)

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Feinstein video: Any evidence of Russian collusion with Trump campaign? "Not at this time."


robtmc

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #101 on: May 12, 2017, 08:30:25 AM »
I just love the way this narcissist thinks we really care what he says.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Well, millennials do seem to think the world revolves around them..

All those participation trophies say so!

drck1000

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #102 on: May 12, 2017, 09:12:56 AM »
I won't be surprised if there is something to all of this Trump stuff. At the same time I won't be surprised if there is nothing. Usually, there is almost always something to the rumors. Whether it is really damning or not remains to be seen. I figure that is what is going to come of all of this. They will find one little thing, probably nothing, and then blow it all up cuz the MSM has nothing better to do with their time anymore.

As far as HRC is concerned I believe she is guilty of murder, manslaughter at the very least, for Benghazi. She is also guilty as sin for the mishandling of the e-mails. Then there is the corruption with the Clinton Foundation, and the list goes on....  The rumors continue about the new FBI chief being able to restart the investigation into HRC. I personally hope this happens.

Overall, I think I would give Trump a B+ for the stuff he has accomplished over the first 3 months. He is working hard at keeping his promises. But I think I will give him a C- for his lack of unifying appearances to the public. For instance this Comey firing had his entire staff telling completely different stories. He can look like a buffoon at times because he gets on Twitter and says things that I think the POTUS just should not say. He should keep Twitter close to his vest for certain "releases" of certain information. I think Trump can be and is, his own worst enemy.
The MSM already blew up on speculation and that's all that is seemingly needed these day.  Yeah, I get the "appearance of impropriety" issue.  I have to consider that all the time professionally as well as personally.  That said, the MSM often rushes to judge and seemingly free to speculate if nothing more than to fuel debate and ratings.  No one will remember that Feinstein confirmed that Trump isn't a target in the Russian tampering investigation, but too late for that already.  Just like people always remember the first dollar figure you give them in an estimate, that's what sticks in people's minds. 

I do hope that HRC does go down, but I have a feeling that would never happen as she's too well connected and if she goes down, so do a lot of other people.  Just my speculation, no references to back that up whatsoever. 

I believe Trump could be a really great President.  In general, I believe his intentions are for the American people.  Just that he says so many stupid things and I'm sure he has skeletons in his closet.  I sincerely hope that the stupid shit he says for strategic effect, to keep opponents off balance or something masterful. However, sadly, I don't think that's the case. 


Dude, calm down. Think about your blood pressure!!!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Seriously tho, I don't understand the significance of where the meeting takes place? Trump has not even tried to stop the Russian investigation. And let's make it clear that there is currently no known investigation into Trump himself. The investigation is for the Trump campaign. Unless you know something I don't?
He probably heard the MSM speculating about the dangers of allowing Russian electronics in a sensitive "clean" room like the Oval Office.  While I don't believe the secret service is 100% effective, I would have think that whatever security risks/concerns that a talking bobble head could come up with, would have already been thought of and addressed.  Just another example of the MSM playing on the fear and emotions of the weak minded. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #103 on: May 12, 2017, 10:01:43 AM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #104 on: May 12, 2017, 10:51:29 AM »
This is from an e-mail written by Jonah Goldberg of the National Review. A different take on things:

Dear Reader (including anyone hiding in the bushes),
Good times, huh?
Let’s start . . . here:

"Comey firing is a red herring to distract from the fact that Trump hasn't started building the wall." - Ann Coulter

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/862072444852588545?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=170512_G-File&utm_term=GFile

Now, I don’t think this is actually true, but I’ve been told for months now that I have to get better at taking some things seriously without taking them literally. And I think Ann has a point.

So, I’m going to ask my pro-Trump and passionately anti-anti-Trump friends to just take a step back and ask yourselves: “What does Donald Trump’s manufactured, self-inflicted, and pathological need for drama get us?”

If you’re about to answer “Neil Gorsuch,” the everlasting gobstopper of Trump rationalizations, please hold off one second. If you’re about to answer “judges,” please take a moment as well.

Because the correct answer, in policy terms, is . . . nothing. Actually, less than nothing because all this drama makes getting things done harder.

In the best possible light, all the insanity from the president of the United States is St. Elmo’s Fire, a lightshow to entertain us. It’s a Mexican soap opera without the redeeming sex and cleavage. It’s a reality-TV show without the cat fights, stiletto heels, and thrown glasses of wine.

Ask anybody — off the record, of course — on Capitol Hill about whether all this drama helps them get bills passed or judges confirmed. They will laugh at the question.

This is irrespective of any specific policy agenda. If you want a wall that can be seen from space along the southern border, if you want a Muslim ban, if you want to get rid of Obamacare, spend a trillion dollars on infrastructure, or any other core goal of the original MAGA agenda, none of this helps. None of it. Trump was never destined for Mt. Rushmore, but every insane tweet is a step further away from it.

I can only imagine poor Reince Priebus freaking out like Jerry Maguire shouting at Cuba Gooding Jr. in the locker room — “Help me . . . help you . . . help me! . . . help you!” — while an air-drying-naked Donald Trump giggles at the spectacle.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Inspector

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #105 on: May 12, 2017, 11:16:19 AM »
The MSM already blew up on speculation and that's all that is seemingly needed these day.  Yeah, I get the "appearance of impropriety" issue.  I have to consider that all the time professionally as well as personally.  That said, the MSM often rushes to judge and seemingly free to speculate if nothing more than to fuel debate and ratings.  No one will remember that Feinstein confirmed that Trump isn't a target in the Russian tampering investigation, but too late for that already.  Just like people always remember the first dollar figure you give them in an estimate, that's what sticks in people's minds. 

I do hope that HRC does go down, but I have a feeling that would never happen as she's too well connected and if she goes down, so do a lot of other people.  Just my speculation, no references to back that up whatsoever. 

I believe Trump could be a really great President.  In general, I believe his intentions are for the American people.  Just that he says so many stupid things and I'm sure he has skeletons in his closet.  I sincerely hope that the stupid shit he says for strategic effect, to keep opponents off balance or something masterful. However, sadly, I don't think that's the case. 

He probably heard the MSM speculating about the dangers of allowing Russian electronics in a sensitive "clean" room like the Oval Office.  While I don't believe the secret service is 100% effective, I would have think that whatever security risks/concerns that a talking bobble head could come up with, would have already been thought of and addressed.  Just another example of the MSM playing on the fear and emotions of the weak minded.
I actually enjoy watching the MSM heads explode over all of this. Even if it is not food for their hysteria and DJT is the buffoon he appears to be, it just makes me grin and laugh at all the people who hate him so bad that they want all of this stuff to be true so they can hate him even more. And if all of this is food for the hysteria then DJT is an absolute genius. But, I am with you on this. I don't think so. It just appears to everyone he doesn't know what he is doing and he is bumbling around even though he has done so much already in his first 3 months. So I say, let the haters hate and the trump lovers swoon. I still need to be convinced. I would think at this rate it may take 4 years before we can tell what kind of president he turns out to be. But all the haters are saying all we are seeing is the preview to the end result.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

All I will say about HRC going down is don't open your eyes!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: But seriously, if she goes down I would suspect attempts on peoples lives including DJT.  :shake: :shake: :shake:

Take a look at the article I posted from Jonah Goldberg. He has the take that DJT is the genius we all want him to be.

I understand the fear you bring up. At the same time those listening devices have to be powerful enough to transmit outside the WH grounds and then another block all the way around. Plus the WH is made of reinforced concrete. So even tougher to get signals out. I would suspect that there would be agents in the meeting as well watching these guys every move. And then transmitters that size don't last long on batteries. And even if a device can be placed it doesn't take much to pick up transmission signals and triangulate on them. All of this is my opinion of course. What do I know about espionage? And BTW, I disagree with you about the MSM playing on the fear and emotions of the weak minded. I think they do this on the strong minded as well.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

punaperson

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #106 on: May 12, 2017, 11:33:01 AM »
Jonah Goldberg has been a never-Trumper from Day One. He has never had a positive thing to say about Trump, and I doubt he ever will. He called Trump "a crap sandwich" and openly admitted to considering voting for Clinton (he later stated his intention to vote for neither). Not that that invalidates his argument in this case, but the fact that he overlooks all the EOs, cabinet and agency staffing appointments, and gives short shrift to the judicial appointments aspect... is just further proof that he wants to cast things in an extremely biased light, just like the vast majority of the mainstream media. Plus, he seems to be reaching conclusions about legislation awfully early in the game. How will anyone determine if Trump's "drama" did or did not, in the long run, help or hinder the passage of legislation? That'll be an "abstract" argument with people cherry-picking their "behind the scenes sources" (as Goldberg does here). Goldberg, seeing it through his lens of "Trump can do no right" gets it just as wrong (or maybe moreso) than those looking through the lens of "Trump can do no wrong" (not sure where those people are writing).

rklapp

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #107 on: May 12, 2017, 01:41:30 PM »
I believe Trump could be a really great President.  In general, I believe his intentions are for the American people.  Just that he says so many stupid things and I'm sure he has skeletons in his closet.  I sincerely hope that the stupid shit he says for strategic effect, to keep opponents off balance or something masterful. However, sadly, I don't think that's the case. 
Everybody always says about how affable Trump is when meeting in person and it's probably true from all accounts. The problem is the public perception of the stupid things he says. I do believe that he thinks what he's doing is for strategic effect. As I've said before, my concern is that he's alienating most of the country and he'll lose Congress next year and then we'll have to listen to Pelosi's caterwauling for the next two years.

He can say all the stupid shit he wants, but by next summer, he better build big things that middle class people can use, get all of the coal miners back to work, and complete many of the promises in his Contract with America or the game is over and he'll be a lame duck for the rest of his term. Yes, he'll still be President but a Democratic Congress will roll right over him, and I don't want that.

You can accuse me of being a liberal all you want and I don't care. You're loyalty to Trump is admirable. Most of the voters in this country are not so loyal. In fact, many of those who voted for Trump also voted for Obama. Otherwise, Romney would have been President. In order for Trump to retain control of Congress, his actions have to pass the smell test and the straight face test and that ain't happening.

For example, Trump meets with Kislyak in the Oval Office the day after firing the FBI Director. Trump contradicted all of his surrogates by telling Holt that he wanted to stop the Russian investigation process. I should remind you that Kislyak was the Russian official that got Flynn fired and Sessions and Manafort in trouble. For most of the country, that does not pass the smell test and barely passes the straight face test.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #108 on: May 12, 2017, 02:11:54 PM »
Everybody always says about how affable Trump is when meeting in person and it's probably true from all accounts. The problem is the public perception of the stupid things he says. I do believe that he thinks what he's doing is for strategic effect. As I've said before, my concern is that he's alienating most of the country and he'll lose Congress next year and then we'll have to listen to Pelosi's caterwauling for the next two years.

He can say all the stupid shit he wants, but by next summer, he better build big things that middle class people can use, get all of the coal miners back to work, and complete many of the promises in his Contract with America or the game is over and he'll be a lame duck for the rest of his term. Yes, he'll still be President but a Democratic Congress will roll right over him, and I don't want that.

You can accuse me of being a liberal all you want and I don't care. You're loyalty to Trump is admirable. Most of the voters in this country are not so loyal. In fact, many of those who voted for Trump also voted for Obama. Otherwise, Romney would have been President. In order for Trump to retain control of Congress, his actions have to pass the smell test and the straight face test and that ain't happening.

For example, Trump meets with Kislyak in the Oval Office the day after firing the FBI Director. Trump contradicted all of his surrogates by telling Holt that he wanted to stop the Russian investigation process. I should remind you that Kislyak was the Russian official that got Flynn fired and Sessions and Manafort in trouble. For most of the country, that does not pass the smell test and barely passes the straight face test.

Those are all details that have nothing to do with the job of fixing the nation's problems.  We just had 8 years of all talk, little action when it came to the REAL issues and concerns of the nation.  All this "Russians!" and Comey talk is more effort to make him look bad.

I'll take someone like Trump any day of the week over Hillary or Bernie.  The hard work of fixing the nation's problems does not wait for perfect men.  Trump was perfectly comfortable as a billionaire living the life of luxury.  He decided to give up that life and work to make America great again.  He's not working to make a name or fortune for himself.  People are too busy judging his tweets and believing the made-up scandals to see the simple truth. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #109 on: May 12, 2017, 02:54:38 PM »
Everybody always says about how affable Trump is when meeting in person and it's probably true from all accounts. The problem is the public perception of the stupid things he says. I do believe that he thinks what he's doing is for strategic effect. As I've said before, my concern is that he's alienating most of the country and he'll lose Congress next year and then we'll have to listen to Pelosi's caterwauling for the next two years.

He can say all the stupid shit he wants, but by next summer, he better build big things that middle class people can use, get all of the coal miners back to work, and complete many of the promises in his Contract with America or the game is over and he'll be a lame duck for the rest of his term. Yes, he'll still be President but a Democratic Congress will roll right over him, and I don't want that.

You can accuse me of being a liberal all you want and I don't care. You're loyalty to Trump is admirable. Most of the voters in this country are not so loyal. In fact, many of those who voted for Trump also voted for Obama. Otherwise, Romney would have been President. In order for Trump to retain control of Congress, his actions have to pass the smell test and the straight face test and that ain't happening.

For example, Trump meets with Kislyak in the Oval Office the day after firing the FBI Director. Trump contradicted all of his surrogates by telling Holt that he wanted to stop the Russian investigation process. I should remind you that Kislyak was the Russian official that got Flynn fired and Sessions and Manafort in trouble. For most of the country, that does not pass the smell test and barely passes the straight face test.
Holy, if I had a 100 arms, I'd still need 101 facepalms for you.

Not sure what your boner is with Pelosi.  I don't even see how she's relevant right now in this discussion.  Yeah, I guess you're already assuming that Dems will take control over the House and/or Senate in 2018.  It could happen, but not sure why you so irrationally think that's where things are going while still only about 3 months into it. 

I never accused you of being a liberal.  I really couldn't care less if you are a liberal or really couldn't care less about what you think. 

My loyalty to Trump?  Where did I ever say that?  Again, I'll say this again, as I've said many times here, personally I think he's a buffoon.  I also don't really know him as a person nor really care for him either way.  However, I do believe is making positive change for this country, genuinely believe his intentions are to improve America, and he's the CURRENT President of the United States.  He deserves at least some time to get things changed seeing as it took the better part of 8 years getting things this way.  If you like the way things were from 2008-2016, right on.  I do view you as part of the problem.  From what you've said on here, you definitely aren't part of the solution and constantly bring up irrational things and many times seem like non-sensical ramblings.  It's your apparent stubborn, single minded, and blinded thinking that is a problem. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #110 on: May 12, 2017, 04:13:42 PM »
Holy, if I had a 100 arms, I'd still need 101 facepalms for you.

Not sure what your boner is with Pelosi.  I don't even see how she's relevant right now in this discussion.  Yeah, I guess you're already assuming that Dems will take control over the House and/or Senate in 2018.  It could happen, but not sure why you so irrationally think that's where things are going while still only about 3 months into it. 

I never accused you of being a liberal.  I really couldn't care less if you are a liberal or really couldn't care less about what you think. 

My loyalty to Trump?  Where did I ever say that?  Again, I'll say this again, as I've said many times here, personally I think he's a buffoon.  I also don't really know him as a person nor really care for him either way.  However, I do believe is making positive change for this country, genuinely believe his intentions are to improve America, and he's the CURRENT President of the United States.  He deserves at least some time to get things changed seeing as it took the better part of 8 years getting things this way.  If you like the way things were from 2008-2016, right on.  I do view you as part of the problem.  From what you've said on here, you definitely aren't part of the solution and constantly bring up irrational things and many times seem like non-sensical ramblings.  It's your apparent stubborn, single minded, and blinded thinking that is a problem.

Que
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Kew Omni to color your comments as "attacking anyone who disagrees with the website majority's opinion" ....
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #111 on: May 12, 2017, 05:11:03 PM »
Que Omni to color your comments as "attacking anyone who disagrees with the website majority's opinion" ....
Cue? Or queue? Or...

See, I notice spelling in others. Haha

I actually welcome discussion with different view points, even those completely contrary to my views. That is as long a people can convey their thoughts in a logical and rational manner, which some are seemingly incapable of doing.

Do I notice pack mentality? Sure. Yes, I tend to get along best with people that I see things eye to eye with, but I never just blindly go with the flow. Freedom to make up my own mind and form my own beliefs and opinions is a great thing.



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rklapp

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #112 on: May 12, 2017, 07:38:36 PM »
Not sure what your boner is with Pelosi.  I don't even see how she's relevant right now in this discussion.  Yeah, I guess you're already assuming that Dems will take control over the House and/or Senate in 2018.  It could happen, but not sure why you so irrationally think that's where things are going while still only about 3 months into it. 
I never accused you of being a liberal.  I really couldn't care less if you are a liberal or really couldn't care less about what you think. 
My loyalty to Trump?  Where did I ever say that?  Again, I'll say this again, as I've said many times here, personally I think he's a buffoon.  I also don't really know him as a person nor really care for him either way.  However, I do believe is making positive change for this country, genuinely believe his intentions are to improve America, and he's the CURRENT President of the United States.  He deserves at least some time to get things changed seeing as it took the better part of 8 years getting things this way.  If you like the way things were from 2008-2016, right on.  I do view you as part of the problem.  From what you've said on here, you definitely aren't part of the solution and constantly bring up irrational things and many times seem like non-sensical ramblings.  It's your apparent stubborn, single minded, and blinded thinking that is a problem.
You got out of my post that I have a boner for Pelosi? Wow. My point is that if Trump doesn't get his head out of his ass, the Dems will take over. Yes, he's only 3 months into it but he only has another year to get things done that usually take longer. If he could stop tweeting and start building things, I wouldn't be worried about the future of the GOP. You believe that he has 8 years to fix the last 8 years. No he doesn't. He has a little over a year before voters make up their mind about keeping their local Representative. Yes, he deserves 8 years but he won't get 8 years if he loses Congress.

Sorry, I misdirected my comments to you instead of FJ. Regarding the rest of you comments, go shove it.

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omnigun

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #113 on: May 12, 2017, 08:00:14 PM »
Not sure why Flapp doesn't understand how someone can dislike something yet still accept that it happened.  I don't think Trump is the best thing since sliced bread.  But I don't deny the fact that he is president. 

Do I think others would be better?  Yes. 
Do I think we could of done worse?  Yes. 
Do I acknowledge that he is president?  Yes.
All of these train of thoughts can co exist....

Flapp_Jackson

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #114 on: May 12, 2017, 08:08:58 PM »
Not sure why Flapp doesn't understand how someone can dislike something yet still accept that it happened.  I don't think Trump is the best thing since sliced bread.  But I don't deny the fact that he is president. 

Do I think others would be better?  Yes. 
Do I think we could of done worse?  Yes. 
Do I acknowledge that he is president?  Yes.
All of these train of thoughts can co exist....

Of course I understand that happens.  How do you think we survived 8 years of Obama?  We accepted he was president and didn't march in the streets setting cars on fire and at colleges destroying property to shut down Democrat Liberal speakers.  Conservatives are way better than that.

But when you ATTACK anyone who supports Trump, then you are asking for a response in kind.

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To their eyes Trump can do no wrong.  Anything he says is true, everything else is automatically FAKE NEWS.  If Trump said he was Jesus I bet they would bow down to him.

That's not acceptance, and it's not debating issues and actions.  It's another "Deplorables" comment, just like Hillary said.

So, keep thinking you are all righteous and accepting of Trump.  You're the same as every other Snowflake who's pissed off about Trump winning, and you take it out on anyone who actually likes what he's doing.

Dimwit.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #115 on: May 12, 2017, 08:49:52 PM »
You got out of my post that I have a boner for Pelosi? Wow. My point is that if Trump doesn't get his head out of his ass, the Dems will take over. Yes, he's only 3 months into it but he only has another year to get things done that usually take longer. If he could stop tweeting and start building things, I wouldn't be worried about the future of the GOP. You believe that he has 8 years to fix the last 8 years. No he doesn't. He has a little over a year before voters make up their mind about keeping their local Representative. Yes, he deserves 8 years but he won't get 8 years if he loses Congress.

Sorry, I misdirected my comments to you instead of FJ. Regarding the rest of you comments, go shove it.
No. I said it took the better part of 8 years getting this way. Didn't say anything about 8 years to fix things. Though coming into 2017, I thought it would take a long time to repair the damage that was done throughout the Obama years.

You came at me with all the liberal and loyalty stuff and I responded in kind since I took it as you saying things that I had no part of. If you meant that for FJ, then peace. Carry on.


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drck1000

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #116 on: May 12, 2017, 08:53:42 PM »
SNIP

Do I think others would be better?  Yes. 
Do I think we could of done worse?  Yes. 
Do I acknowledge that he is president?  Yes.
All of these train of thoughts can co exist....
Now that, I agree with.

That said, a big part of my thinks that this nation needed something to shake things up. Really shake things up. Hated where we were going, especially in the 2012-2016 time frame. Was Trump the best choice? Not in my mind. However, he is shaking things up for sure. I do see a lot of positives, but I also see a lot of shit as well.



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Heavies

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #117 on: May 12, 2017, 10:32:20 PM »
Let's all take it easy in the discussion.

eyeeatingfish

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #118 on: May 14, 2017, 09:31:20 PM »
There's no evidence Comey had any effect on Hillary's loss.  In fact, after he followed up saying nothing had changed his mind about charges, we were back at the same place in as July.

If the first investigation didn't change anyone's mind and cause them to vote Trump, the letter in October sure wasn't going to be enough.

Depends who you ask. I have some flaming liberal friends on Facebook who love to blame Comey for the election and are positive he cost Clinton the election. Some analysts argue he did, but I tend to disagree.

I do agree that Comey seems pretty neutral here. He will likely be replaced by someone fairly political.

This was bad timing for Trump to fire him but then again there was never a good time. Trump better hope Comey doesn't have some dirt on him that will come out later. Trump isn't being too bright about it either, firing him and then insulting him. Now mention of recorded tape conversations?

Not saying there is dirty work going on behind closed doors but this whole thing fits neatly into a conspiracy theory.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: FBI Director James Comey ..... YOU'RE FIRED!!
« Reply #119 on: May 14, 2017, 11:10:19 PM »
Depends who you ask. I have some flaming liberal friends on Facebook who love to blame Comey for the election and are positive he cost Clinton the election. Some analysts argue he did, but I tend to disagree.

I do agree that Comey seems pretty neutral here. He will likely be replaced by someone fairly political.

This was bad timing for Trump to fire him but then again there was never a good time. Trump better hope Comey doesn't have some dirt on him that will come out later. Trump isn't being too bright about it either, firing him and then insulting him. Now mention of recorded tape conversations?

Not saying there is dirty work going on behind closed doors but this whole thing fits neatly into a conspiracy theory.

First tax returns, then Russians, and now the Comey Tapes.  Trump has the Democrats and MSM chasing after whatever he decides.  Keeping them off balance while he does his own thing.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw