I hate people who hate other people. 

Trolls are not people, but some people are trolls.   

Trolls are not people, but some people are trolls.   

"Trolls are not people"...well I have news for you.  I believe you are a person.  Unless I've been arguing with a robot this whole time... though that would answer some questions.

 

"Trolls are not people"...well I have news for you.  I believe you are a person.  Unless I've been arguing with a robot this whole time... though that would answer some questions.

"Trolls are not people"...well I have news for you.  I believe you are a person.  Unless I've been arguing with a robot this whole time... though that would answer some questions.

You sound like some poorly coded AI. I don't believe you are a person. Siri? Is that you? 

You sound like some poorly coded AI. I don't believe you are a person. Siri? Is that you? 

He might be Artificial, but I question the Intelligence aspect....

You sound like some poorly coded AI. I don't believe you are a person. Siri? Is that you? 

lol I've met you in rl I am real.

Geezus, this is exactly why you are ignored: you try and create your own fake news.

 "Allegedly  shared intelligence that was not America's to share"

GMAFB you leftist troll.

Sorry, I can't understand you over the sound of Trump's balls in your mouth.

What did he share? Please enlighten us with your understanding of foreign disclosure.

I don't know what was shared, the issue is whether it was ours to share. If our ally entrusts us with secret information and we blab about it to some other country which the original ally does not approve of then we hurt our relationship with our ally. They may decide not to share information with us anymore. Does that not make sense?

First of all you made assumptions that are absolutely not true. It's not up to me to believe if DJT made odd sexual comments about his daughter or not. I don't care whether he did or not. And the reason I didn't want to hear them is for the same reason, I don't give a shit. And not because I don't want you to support your statements. I have lived a long life and I found in this life most of the time what people say and what people do are two different things. I try not to judge people by what they say and rather their actions. If I was more concerned about what people say rather than what they do I would be a much shallower person and I would have voted for Hillary. Truth and clarity are more important to me than putting a word like creepy or accusing him of having sex with his daughter based only on his words instead of his actions. So all the words you typed here are meaningless to me. That is why I didn't want to hear it, I just don't fucking care.

I believe that actions speak louder than words. Words can also be important when you don't have actions to judge by. In this case there was no proof that DJT had or is having sex with his daughter. So what he said about his daughter is meaningless. I judged DJT by his accomplishments and what that means in the grand scheme of things.

Maybe you don't care, but I am concerned that the face of the nation makes such odd comments. If he were just another Woody Allen, I wouldn't care much. He can be a creepy old man if he wants because he doesn't manner. But when our president says such odd things it make us all look bad, especially the ones who share his party affiliation.  Remember when Michelle Obama said she wasn't proud to be an American? Conservatives had a field day with that. Maybe you didn't care about that either and if thats the case then I applaud your consistency.

Now if we are referring to actions then his comments don't help him. There have been allegations of sexual misconduct on varying levels and these types of comments Trump has made only serve lend credence to the allegations. Not saying they are true but words do matter.

I don't know what was shared, the issue is whether it was ours to share. If our ally entrusts us with secret information and we blab about it to some other country which the original ally does not approve of then we hurt our relationship with our ally. They may decide not to share information with us anymore. Does that not make sense?

It does not make sense.

We share US and foreign intelligence information between and among other foreign countries all the time.  Once the information is in US possession, a foreign disclosure officer determines the potential parties we can and cannot share it with, and the document is so marked.  Some documents have so many caveats, the first page can be nothing but Release to Canada, Mexico, Japan, Russia, China.  All other countries NOFORN.

So, since you don't know WHAT was shared, and the leaked report says it was not US intelligence, that leaves you to assume we can't share it.  That's not accurate in all cases. 

I used to work on the AWACS program.  AWAC aircraft were in US, Japan, NATO and Saudi Arabia possession.  Imagine the fun I had making sure we were able to include secrets in documents prepared for our ELF-ONE deployed support unit in Riyadh. 

Back to Trump ... Everything that's classified is provided with appropriate disclosure caveats.  Unless he violated a caveat, he's free by virtue of his position as Commander in Chief and Chief Executive of the nation to release anything he wishes.  If the originator of the INTEL was concerned about release to other foreign nations, it would have been so marked.

I don't remember seeing anything in the leaked info on this non-scandal indicating it was released in violation of classification level, foreign disclosure guidance, or originator markings,   Do you?

I don't know what was shared,

So, why do you keeping yapping about it?

Okaay, getting a little nasty  here on this thread.    Guess waterfront talk is alright now.

Back to Trump ... Everything that's classified is provided with appropriate disclosure caveats.  Unless he violated a caveat, he's free by virtue of his position as Commander in Chief and Chief Executive of the nation to release anything he wishes.  If the originator of the INTEL was concerned about release to other foreign nations, it would have been so marked.
I don't remember seeing anything in the leaked info on this non-scandal indicating it was released in violation of classification level, foreign disclosure guidance, or originator markings,   Do you?

Good question. I mentioned this before so sorry for repeating myself. You're right in that the President can decide when and where to release classified material to whomever he likes. He can take everything that Snowden stole and declassify it but that doesn't make it a good idea. There's a process he SHOULD follow to ensure that the source of the intel (the Israelis) are okay with releasing to the Russians and the intel does not endanger field personnel. My understanding is that he did not follow proper procedures.

He can't go to the FBI director and tell him to stop investigating about the Russians. There's a reason why Comey was trying to imitate a drape in the White House. There are proper channels that need to be followed to avoid any implications with obstruction of justice. So he fires the FBI director then the next day, he tells the Russian envoys about the laptop intel in the fucking Oval Office with only Russian reporters present and then brags about firing Comey. From the 30,000 foot view, that looks really really bad. I don't believe Trump will be impeached before 2019, but at this pace, all bets are off after that. If that bitch Nancy Pelosi becomes Speaker of the House again, I'm gonna run my head into a wall.

Okaay, getting a little nasty  here on this thread.    Guess waterfront talk is alright now.

Agreed. There's a big difference between saying this situation is fucked and saying fuck you. I try to avoid the latter.


Additional: I think this is an honest assessment of the political situation.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/22/is-media-trump-deranged-maybe-dependent-for-sure.html


Final question of the post. Are you guys okay with this photo?

Maybe you don't care, but I am concerned that the face of the nation makes such odd comments. If he were just another Woody Allen, I wouldn't care much. He can be a creepy old man if he wants because he doesn't manner. But when our president says such odd things it make us all look bad, especially the ones who share his party affiliation.  Remember when Michelle Obama said she wasn't proud to be an American? Conservatives had a field day with that. Maybe you didn't care about that either and if thats the case then I applaud your consistency.

Now if we are referring to actions then his comments don't help him. There have been allegations of sexual misconduct on varying levels and these types of comments Trump has made only serve lend credence to the allegations. Not saying they are true but words do matter.

You are a funny guy. I tell you I don't care and you continue to try and convince me that what you say matters.   

Like the judge on People's Court says often, without proof you are just flapping your gums.

If I go by what you say about words of concern and allegations then fake news matters to you. Because that is what fake news is, words of concern and allegations. I pity you because you must believe a lot of things that are not true. That explains a lot about what you say here and how you think. I'm done with you on this conversation.

lol I've met you in rl I am real.

Hey! Siri answered me!!! 

So that brings up the question, is Siri real?

Good question. I mentioned this before so sorry for repeating myself. You're right in that the President can decide when and where to release classified material to whomever he likes. He can take everything that Snowden stole and declassify it but that doesn't make it a good idea. There's a process he SHOULD follow to ensure that the source of the intel (the Israelis) are okay with releasing to the Russians and the intel does not endanger field personnel. My understanding is that he did not follow proper procedures.

He can't go to the FBI director and tell him to stop investigating about the Russians. There's a reason why Comey was trying to imitate a drape in the White House. There are proper channels that need to be followed to avoid any implications with obstruction of justice. So he fires the FBI director then the next day, he tells the Russian envoys about the laptop intel in the fucking Oval Office with only Russian reporters present and then brags about firing Comey. From the 30,000 foot view, that looks really really bad. I don't believe Trump will be impeached before 2019, but at this pace, all bets are off after that. If that bitch Nancy Pelosi becomes Speaker of the House again, I'm gonna run my head into a wall.

Agreed. There's a big difference between saying this situation is fucked and saying fuck you. I try to avoid the latter.


Additional: I think this is an honest assessment of the political situation.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/22/is-media-trump-deranged-maybe-dependent-for-sure.html


Final question of the post. Are you guys okay with this photo?

At this point reminds me of the reporter who asked the fervent trump supporter if trump could take a shit on his desk and he would find a way to support it. 

Final question of the post. Are you guys okay with this photo?

Why do you continually ask if people here are "okay with" something?  You posted the picture/video/comment. 

Tell us why you posted it?  If others have an opinion, they'll say so. 

Asking "Are you okay with this?" is trolling.

Not labeling you.  Just recommending you change your MO a bit so we don't label you.

I don't know what was shared, the issue is whether it was ours to share. If our ally entrusts us with secret information and we blab about it to some other country which the original ally does not approve of then we hurt our relationship with our ally. They may decide not to share information with us anymore. Does that not make sense?

You have no clue how foreign disclosure works. Which ally are you referring to? Because there are different agreements, treaties and policies with each country. It is a lot more complex than telling a secret to your playground friends.

I don't know what was shared, the issue is whether it was ours to share. If our ally entrusts us with secret information and we blab about it to some other country which the original ally does not approve of then we hurt our relationship with our ally. They may decide not to share information with us anymore. Does that not make sense?

and to add..

STOP SPREADING FAKE NEWS WITH YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT HOW THINGS WORK!

If you don't know. You don't know!