Weapons for Airline Travel (Read 22561 times)

RSN172

Weapons for Airline Travel
« on: May 19, 2017, 06:07:45 PM »
What weapons do you carry on board?  I carry 6oz of coins in a leather coin purse placed in a pair of socks inserted into each other.  A tactical flashlight, 1250 lumens and a 6x3/4 inch Koa stick tapered at both ends.  I have taken all three on numerous flights and have never been questioned about any of them.  I assemble my improvised slapstick after I pass through security and before I board.  With the recent rash of fights on airplanes, boarding gates and check in counters, us old weak feeble guys need some way to defend ourselves.
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ren

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2017, 08:41:49 PM »
cuz no one here does anything illegal...
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rklapp

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2017, 11:12:52 PM »
Good idea but is it illegal? Does intent make it illegal?
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zippz

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2017, 11:22:20 PM »
Grab a backpack or suitcase.  Whack them, throw it, or ram them with it.  Have other people join in.

RSN172

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2017, 11:41:01 PM »
None of these items are illegal or prohibited.  A cane or walking stick made out of a strong wood is another legal weapon you can take on board.  In fact you can take a cane anywhere.  In no gun zones (everywhere in Hawaii) it is important to have something to help defend yourself besides your bare hands, unless you are like 6'8", 280+ lbs of pure muscle, still young and a highly trained fighter.  That ain't me.   Can't take pepper spray on airplanes either.
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rklapp

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2017, 11:48:24 PM »
None of these items are illegal or prohibited.  A cane or walking stick made out of a strong wood is another legal weapon you can take on board.  In fact you can take a cane anywhere.  In no gun zones (everywhere in Hawaii) it is important to have something to help defend yourself besides your bare hands, unless you are like 6'8", 280+ lbs of pure muscle, still young and a highly trained fighter.  That ain't me.   Can't take pepper spray on airplanes either.
Agreed but if you assemble the sock/pennies before boarding the flight then use it to defend yourself against the ahole behind you who started attacking you for putting your seat back, could the FBI claim intent to use a make shift weapon on the airplane? This is different than using a suitcase to hit the ahole. Just want to know what I'm getting myself into before I stuff a coin purse into a sock before boarding the flight. I know ren, all legal here, all the time.
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RSN172

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2017, 11:54:34 PM »
Grab a backpack or suitcase.  Whack them, throw it, or ram them with it.  Have other people join in.
Most likely you will not have time to get your carry on bag to do that.  A big fat Sharpie with the cap filled with JB Weld is another item I like to carry in my shirt pocket.  Very quick to deploy.  All of these kubotan type weapons are excellent for self defense, especially when the person you are going against will most likely not have a weapon because they did not plan in advance. 
Photo is of my Sharpie with Glock 19 magazine for size comparison.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2017, 12:51:21 AM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

RSN172

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2017, 06:14:59 AM »
The CS Pocket Shark is what gave me the idea to recycle my Sharpie Pro after it ran out of ink.  The case is much thicker than the regular sharpie.  It is 7/8x5.5 inches so you can get a good grip on it and the cap won't come off since I filled it with JB Weld, which reinforced the cap as well.  I tested it by folding a Tshirt over two times, laying it on a block of wood and striking it as hard as I could while wearing gloves in case it broke.  It passed that test with flying colors and it was basically free except for the cost of a small amount of JB Weld.  I also helped the environment by keeping it out of the landfill. LOL.
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whynow?

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2017, 07:46:36 AM »
Pen, a 1.5" leather belt with metal buckle and carry on packed leather jacket.

oldfart

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2017, 09:13:31 AM »
I got one of those flashlights similar to those TV atomic beam lights.
Mine has an improved chip driver and it runs on a single 18650 lithium ion battery.
Similar in size to a Kubotan, it has a crenulated bezel.
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Colt808

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2017, 02:34:13 PM »
None of these items are illegal or prohibited.  A cane or walking stick made out of a strong wood is another legal weapon you can take on board.  In fact you can take a cane anywhere.  In no gun zones (everywhere in Hawaii) it is important to have something to help defend yourself besides your bare hands, unless you are like 6'8", 280+ lbs of pure muscle, still young and a highly trained fighter.  That ain't me.   Can't take pepper spray on airplanes either.
True, none of the items are illegal on their own...it becomes questionable once assembled. I can understand the comparison you're trying to make, but defending yourself with a cane or walking stick is not the same as using a sock full of coins.  One has a legitimate purpose as a mobility aid and the other is just a bludgeoning device. Technically one could argue that you're assembling a weapon then boarding a plane.

Personally I don't think either (stick or improvised sap) are good choices for self-defense in close quarters but if that's your choice I'd recommend getting a small fanny pack. It can be kept on you at all times and has a legitimate purpose so you can avoid possible legal questions.



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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2017, 04:06:13 PM »
If anyone asks where you got a sock full of quarters, just inform them it's from years of saving your income as a 2-bit whore!   

 :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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London808

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2017, 09:43:45 PM »
I flew to California with a knife without realizing it, went through X-ray and everything. only found out about it on the way back when they did catch it.

"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

London808

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2017, 09:45:18 PM »
Oh and if you want a knife on a plane, just fly first class it will come with your meal.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

London808

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2017, 09:46:30 PM »
And if you can't afford first class take a music CD and a small piece of sand paper,

Break CD in half, and sand it into a blade, will take less then 5 minutes in the bathroom.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

RSN172

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2017, 09:26:57 AM »
True, none of the items are illegal on their own...it becomes questionable once assembled. I can understand the comparison you're trying to make, but defending yourself with a cane or walking stick is not the same as using a sock full of coins.  One has a legitimate purpose as a mobility aid and the other is just a bludgeoning device. Technically one could argue that you're assembling a weapon then boarding a plane.

I just timed how long it would take to reach in my carry on bag, pull out a sock and drop the coin purse in my pocket into it.  9 seconds.  If questioned, you could say you saw this guy acting weird so you copied MacGyver and made your improvised weapon just in case.  A tactical flashlight with a crenellated bezel also has a legitimate use so they cannot say anything there.

Personally I don't think either (stick or improvised sap) are good choices for self-defense in close quarters but if that's your choice I'd recommend getting a small fanny pack. It can be kept on you at all times and has a legitimate purpose so you can avoid possible legal questions.

when you say stick, are you referring to a cane?  I agree with you that a sap or cane is not a real good extremely close quarter weapon, but a kubotan certainly is and so is a tactical flashlight or the CS Pocket Shark or my modified Sharpie.  A hit in the temple from one of these could easily be lethal and a strike in the throat or eye will end the fight.  A kubotan type weapon can easily break a jaw or hand or get you out of a RNC pretty easily.

I think a lot of some people's concerns about the legality of these items are unfounded.  Whether anyone decides to carry something or not is purely a personal choice, but being of Medicare age, I like to try and even up the odds a bit if I ever get into a physical confrontation with someone who will most likely be a lot younger and stronger
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RSN172

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2017, 09:35:28 AM »
I just arrived on Oahu last night and I am going to carry the Surefire I was keeping in my car here.  It is better for striking on both ends vs the Eagle Tac.
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ren

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2017, 01:42:36 PM »
Get a big dog and declare it as a service animal or carry a letter of recommendation from HPD. Authorized Carry Dog. ACD.
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RSN172

Re: Weapons for Airline Travel
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2017, 04:58:50 PM »
That's a great idea.  I would love to bring one of my Rottweilers with me.  Only problem is my favorite who sleeps on the bed with me tends to growl and snarl at strangers.
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