Gabbard and Hanabusa are on this list.  thoughts?   

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/200-cosponsors-enlist-act

I'm for amnesty if the person has a skilled trade and can prove they're a model citizen. I have no sympathy for a mother who lied on her immigration form.

I'm for amnesty if they can prove their intelligence and ethic.   Make them take a difficult test and have a respectable trade/job.  We need more hardworking smart people in our country. 

I'm for amnesty if they can prove their intelligence and ethic.   Make them take a difficult test and have a respectable trade/job.  We need more hardworking smart people in our country.

I'd base being allowed to remain in the country on whether or not they believe in anthropogenic global climate change. That'd be for everyone, not just "immigrants".

I'd base being allowed to remain in the country on whether or not they believe in anthropogenic global climate change. That'd be for everyone, not just "immigrants".

Well that is a sign of intelligence.   Where you moving to? 

Very recent commentary by Charles Krauthammer on the subject of illegal immigration.

http://prageru.dreamhosters.com/podcastgen/?p=episode&name=2017-06-05_prageru-build-the-wall.mp3

There should be a path for illegal immigrants to get residency and we do need them for some jobs.  However there needs to be some kind of punishment involved or else we'd be rewarding them for doing something illegal.  A mandatory 250 hours of community service each year for 4 years.  Not fair for someone who put in the time and money to immigrate here legally.

And to support that, we would have to close the borders.  Not necessarily a wall.  More enforcement, punishment for businesses that hire illegals, expedited deportation, no benefits and healthcare, etc.

There should be a path for illegal immigrants to get residency and we do need them for some jobs.  However there needs to be some kind of punishment involved or else we'd be rewarding them for doing something illegal.  A mandatory 250 hours of community service each year for 4 years.  Not fair for someone who put in the time and money to immigrate here legally.

And to support that, we would have to close the borders.  Not necessarily a wall.  More enforcement, punishment for businesses that hire illegals, expedited deportation, no benefits and healthcare, etc.

Catch them, throw them out (preferably from a chopper at 10000 feet, no parachute). Tired of all this kumbaya, feel sorry BS. There are mechanisms in place for legal entry. They need to use it. As for these frigging refugees if you support them being here, grow a pair, house them in your home or on your land, take full responsibility and I'll be good with it. We have vets that are being treated like shit and starving while we bend over backward to accommodate these scumbags with all the amenities. If you never served then you'll never understand and never will. If you served your country then I respect you and your thoughts that but still think your views are f'd up, sorry bout that .........

As far as the bill mentioned, on one side we do have a military personnel shortage again that we're having difficulty filling.  The applicants would have to pass the ASVAB, get a background check, and receive training and learn to be a responsible American.   I know a lot of Soldiers that legally immigrated to the US, joined the military and were great workers, and got their citizenship expedited.  On the other hand it could cause discipline problems due to joining just to stay in the US.

Catch them, throw them out (preferably from a chopper at 10000 feet, no parachute). Tired of all this kumbaya, feel sorry BS. There are mechanisms in place for legal entry. They need to use it. As for these frigging refugees if you support them being here, grow a pair, house them in your home or on your land, take full responsibility and I'll be good with it. We have vets that are being treated like shit and starving while we bend over backward to accommodate these scumbags with all the amenities. If you never served then you'll never understand and never will. If you served your country then I respect you and your thoughts that but still think your views are f'd up, sorry bout that .........

While I don't condone violence nor killing of anyone, including illegals, I have to say I agree (mostly) with MRGAF. I think the problem here is that we continue to offer a path for the illegals to become citizens. Mostly through amnesty programs. We have allowed millions and millions of illegals to stay here and gain citizenship or legal alien status since the 1980's. It's time we stopped doing this. We have enough illegals who have done nothing but break our laws and have been gifted with citizenship or legal alien status for breaking our laws. Ridiculous.

While I don't condone violence nor killing of anyone, including illegals, I have to say I agree (mostly) with MRGAF. I think the problem here is that we continue to offer a path for the illegals to become citizens. Mostly through amnesty programs. We have allowed millions and millions of illegals to stay here and gain citizenship or legal alien status since the 1980's. It's time we stopped doing this. We have enough illegals who have done nothing but break our laws and have been gifted with citizenship or legal alien status for breaking our laws. Ridiculous.

And some people (either "America First Patriots" or "deplorable irredeemable xenophobes" depending of one's point of view) have estimated the number of illegal aliens to be 20 MILLION. The costs estimates vary, but I haven't seen any that claim a net positive financial outcome for the country (our country... likely Mexico comes out ahead...).

Catch them, throw them out (preferably from a chopper at 10000 feet, no parachute). Tired of all this kumbaya, feel sorry BS. There are mechanisms in place for legal entry. They need to use it. As for these frigging refugees if you support them being here, grow a pair, house them in your home or on your land, take full responsibility and I'll be good with it. We have vets that are being treated like shit and starving while we bend over backward to accommodate these scumbags with all the amenities. If you never served then you'll never understand and never will. If you served your country then I respect you and your thoughts that but still think your views are f'd up, sorry bout that .........

My apologies for being so blunt. I don't condone fatal measures measures. God only knows how much of it I delivered in 'Nam. Was very frustrated. We catch them, they just come back, over and over again. Maybe the wall is a good thing but to think it will stop the flow is ludicrous and shot sighted. Build a better mouse trap, you'll get a smarter mouse....

Home Depot was all over this before this bill

Just realized what I said might be interpenetrated wrong.  I don't condone letting them stay for free.  I say kick them out and let the intelligent and hard working ones back in.  Even criminals deserve a second chance.  If they can prove they will be an asset to our country why should we deny them.  We need more hardworking people here.

THESE PEOPLE ARE ALL CRIMINALS. YOU DONT GIVE REWARDS FOR CRIMES.

FUCK THEM ALL SEND THEM HOME

Or to a sanctuary city. Honolulu.  Have them camp out at the state capital and city municipal building.  Lots of yard space at both locations.  Just don't come to the Big Island.

Just realized what I said might be interpenetrated wrong.  I don't condone letting them stay for free.  I say kick them out and let the intelligent and hard working ones back in.  Even criminals deserve a second chance.  If they can prove they will be an asset to our country why should we deny them.  We need more hardworking people here.

As long as they do it legally like everyone else has, get a green card, meet or exceed all the requirements an prove their worth, then I welcome them with open arms and will fight for them. My wife emigrated from Japan and become a citizen in 1976. Being a dependent some doors opened more easily and quickly but she still "did her time"..

As far as the bill mentioned, on one side we do have a military personnel shortage again that we're having difficulty filling.  The applicants would have to pass the ASVAB, get a background check, and receive training and learn to be a responsible American.   I know a lot of Soldiers that legally immigrated to the US, joined the military and were great workers, and got their citizenship expedited.  On the other hand it could cause discipline problems due to joining just to stay in the US.

I support this avenue. I served in the Navy for 21 years and can say that 75-80% were exceptional service men and women, some of whom I served with in Vietnam and they were a brother in arms. Times have changed since I retired in 1989 and have heard some bad stories but still wonder where their loyalties lie. During my time, most loved America, some died in the last ne of duty but hanging an apple in front of a horse will make it walk,  not because it wants to but because it's hungry. Are these the type of citizens we want, need or desire. Maybe....

Or to a sanctuary city. Honolulu.  Have them camp out at the state capital and city municipal building.  Lots of yard space at both locations.  Just don't come to the Big Island.

Amen to that!