Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have (Read 10519 times)

mauidog

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2017, 08:46:24 PM »
Shot placement I think is the most important factor, above how many rounds you have or even what caliber  you have.

I was looking to get a ruger LCR in .22 mag for this reason.

zippz

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2017, 10:43:28 PM »
I got 7 rounds in my gun.  Know your limitations and make every shot count.  Fortunately most bad guys will run off like roaches which confronted with a gun.  7 rounds will be fine for 99.9% of defensive situations where the goal is to get away.  The bad guys would have to be crazy or very determined to go after a good guy with a gun.  If I had an ISIS or a mafia bounty on my head then I'd carry as much ammo as I can.

changemyoil66

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2017, 01:02:49 PM »
I got 7 rounds in my gun.  Know your limitations and make every shot count.  Fortunately most bad guys will run off like roaches which confronted with a gun.  7 rounds will be fine for 99.9% of defensive situations where the goal is to get away.  The bad guys would have to be crazy or very determined to go after a good guy with a gun.  If I had an ISIS or a mafia bounty on my head then I'd carry as much ammo as I can.

Only get 10rds even if ISIS targeting you. :(  But good cause for "exception circumstance" for CCW permit.

Majority of the home invasion and store robbery videos that I saw, once the good guy fires the first shot, the bad guys scatter like roaches.

drck1000

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2017, 02:19:36 PM »
Capacity and caliber both matter, thought what is right for you is a very personal decision. Multiple attackers comes to mind. Maybe not realistic for some, but better to have and not need than to need and not have. That and people tend to believe they will rise to the occasion in a stressful situation. While I haven't been in a defensive shoot situation, I expect my performance not to be as good as in training.

Then when caliber cones up, .22? Might be good choice for some, but not me.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2017, 06:53:32 PM »
Capacity and caliber both matter, thought what is right for you is a very personal decision. Multiple attackers comes to mind. Maybe not realistic for some, but better to have and not need than to need and not have. That and people tend to believe they will rise to the occasion in a stressful situation. While I haven't been in a defensive shoot situation, I expect my performance not to be as good as in training.

Then when caliber cones up, .22? Might be good choice for some, but not me.

Good points, combat shooting under stress is certainly something that does not come without practice. Low recoil does make it easier to quick shots more accurately though if one does practice then a bigger caliber is certainly preferred.

I have a Ruger mark 2 set up for my wife to use if she had to. Wanted a Ruger LCR because it is even easier to use. The .40 was way too much for her.

oldfart

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2017, 09:42:22 PM »
My friend has an LCR in 22lr. I shot it once and loved it.
It is lightweight and amazingly accurate.
The trigger stacks up just before let off which allowed me to control the shot.
If that was all I could carry, I would be happy.

My house pistol is an SW 9mm single stack. It only holds 8 shots.
I am confident I can handle any threat with it.
 It's been tested with many many hollow points of all kinds over the last 20 something years so it is my trusted friend.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2017, 02:11:05 PM »
My friend has an LCR in 22lr. I shot it once and loved it.
It is lightweight and amazingly accurate.
The trigger stacks up just before let off which allowed me to control the shot.
If that was all I could carry, I would be happy.

My house pistol is an SW 9mm single stack. It only holds 8 shots.
I am confident I can handle any threat with it.
 It's been tested with many many hollow points of all kinds over the last 20 something years so it is my trusted friend.

Check out the same gun in .22 magnum.

drck1000

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2017, 02:18:58 PM »
Good points, combat shooting under stress is certainly something that does not come without practice. Low recoil does make it easier to quick shots more accurately though if one does practice then a bigger caliber is certainly preferred.

I have a Ruger mark 2 set up for my wife to use if she had to. Wanted a Ruger LCR because it is even easier to use. The .40 was way too much for her.
Recoil def does matter, or more importantly the persons ability to control the recoil. Like for your wife, if 40 or even 9 would be too much for her, then need to figure out options, which you have.


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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2017, 02:20:06 PM »
Use the largest caliber you can manage.  Most men and women have no problem with .38/9mm recoil as long as they choose a firearm of sufficient size they can get a good purchase on it.

Larger caliber normally means fewer rounds.  In Hawaii, that isn't always the case.  If you can fit 20+ rounds of .22 in a similar size magazine that holds 15 9MM, you're looking at maxing both out at 10 rounds.  No advantage of using .22 in that case.

If you're a male of normal stature with no joint, nerve or muscle issues, you should have absolutely no recoil problems with a .38/9MM caliber gun.  If you do, either the gun is too small (easy to solve), or you need to look into strength development exercises (also easy to solve).
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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drck1000

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2017, 02:21:01 PM »
My friend has an LCR in 22lr. I shot it once and loved it.
It is lightweight and amazingly accurate.
The trigger stacks up just before let off which allowed me to control the shot.
If that was all I could carry, I would be happy.

My house pistol is an SW 9mm single stack. It only holds 8 shots.
I am confident I can handle any threat with it.
 It's been tested with many many hollow points of all kinds over the last 20 something years so it is my trusted friend.
Don't have much experience with the LCR series, but they seem to have decent feedback.

Never considered carrying a revolver, though I know many who prefer them over auto loaders.


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Inspector

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2017, 02:47:56 PM »
Don't have much experience with the LCR series, but they seem to have decent feedback.

Never considered carrying a revolver, though I know many who prefer them over auto loaders.


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My house gun is a 9mm revolver. Six shots with 6 full moon clips as back up. I don't ever expect to need more than that first 6 shots. I have practiced with this gun a good part of my life. But now I think it is time to switch to a S&W Model 10 .38 Spl revolver that has a much better DA trigger, is smaller and lighter and easier to handle. So I am practicing with that gun until I feel I am proficient enough with it. It is also easier to carry being smaller and lighter than my current house gun.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2017, 03:00:06 PM »
Don't have much experience with the LCR series, but they seem to have decent feedback.

Never considered carrying a revolver, though I know many who prefer them over auto loaders.


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Failure drills for a revolver are much much simpler. If the gun doesn't go bang just pull the trigger again!

Of course reloads suck... unless you are Idris Elba.

drck1000

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2017, 03:30:24 PM »
My house gun is a 9mm revolver. Six shots with 6 full moon clips as back up. I don't ever expect to need more than that first 6 shots. I have practiced with this gun a good part of my life. But now I think it is time to switch to a S&W Model 10 .38 Spl revolver that has a much better DA trigger, is smaller and lighter and easier to handle. So I am practicing with that gun until I feel I am proficient enough with it. It is also easier to carry being smaller and lighter than my current house gun.
I had heard mixed reviews of 9 mm revolvers. I was interested in one because I am pretty well consolidated to 9 mm.

If I we're to have a defensive revolver, I would lean toward a .357 Mag/.38 SPL gun, but loaded with .38 SPL hollow points. That's pretty much my imagination talking as I currently only have a 6" barrel revolver and no realistic plan or desire to get another revolver, especially with RapBack still in play.


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drck1000

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2017, 03:32:35 PM »
Failure drills for a revolver are much much simpler. If the gun doesn't go bang just pull the trigger again!

Of course reloads suck... unless you are Idris Elba.

Failure drill? You mean gun malfunction?

When I think of failure drill I think of head shot after the center of mass shot wasn't effective.

That said, my knowledge of revolver malfunctions isn't much.


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eyeeatingfish

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2017, 06:46:02 PM »
Failure drill? You mean gun malfunction?

When I think of failure drill I think of head shot after the center of mass shot wasn't effective.

That said, my knowledge of revolver malfunctions isn't much.


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I could be wrong in my terminology. Maybe it was called malfunction drill?
I have never seen a revolver fail per se but of course there are not the same feed issues or failure to cycle, or drill you have to do if the round doesn't go bang.

drck1000

Re: Does size matter? Depends on if you are skilled with what you have
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2017, 07:12:50 PM »
I recall the "second strike" feature of some autoloaders.


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