Hawaii soldier arrested for alleged ties to Islamic State

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/35850537/hawaii-soldier-arrested-for-alleged-ties-to-terrorist-group

Hang em high

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It's sad to see a local boy go crazy like that.

Like his dad said "Good [34-year-old] kid". Probably enticed, goaded, and entrapped by FBI. Had "problems", didn't know what he was doing. Not his fault. Would never hurt a fly. Just shooting off his mouth. Etc. (See: future defense attorney statement).

Exactly.

Of course they had his 18 year old grad photo in the paper and Dad showed all his young kid days photos. ( Guy is 34 years old)

Defense atty. says he doesn't know anything about the case other than what's in the complaint, then quickly adds could have mental issues, presumably from combat tours as an air traffic controller.

...then quickly adds could have mental issues, presumably from combat tours as an air traffic controller.

There is his defense right there in a nutshell. 

Would be nice to see something nice about  Hawaii in the national news once and awhile.
We always get mentioned for high rent, high taxes, bad traffic, drugs, corrupt cops, failing rail and now this.
 

Would be nice to see something nice about  Hawaii in the national news once and awhile.
We always get mentioned for high rent, high taxes, bad traffic, drugs, corrupt cops, failing rail and now this.
 

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Truer words were never spoken

Would be nice to see something nice about  Hawaii in the national news once and awhile.
We always get mentioned for high rent, high taxes, bad traffic, drugs, corrupt cops, failing rail and now this.
 

I've seen Hawaii mentioned favorably in several articles touting the wonderfulness of extremely strict gun control laws. 

Imagine if he did go on active shooter, we would all be sitting ducks.

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Imagine if he did go on active shooter, we would all be sitting ducks.

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owners of big dogs would be ok according to chief robinson

the responses from locals are naive.
"So close to home"
"how could it happen here?"

How do you stop an ideology? It can happen anywhere. Information is ubiquitous. Radicalization doesn't need to arrive in a USPS package nor do they fly in from Syria.

The tragedy here is that we law abiding citizens have (currently) the means to defend ourselves from this kind of threat, except our tools are locked up away from our immediate time of need.

https://www.investigativeproject.org/6391/islamic-radicalization-in-the-military-surfaces

from link at HawaiiFreePress: http://hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/19947/Political-Correctness-Kept-Radical-Muslim-in-Army-for-Years.aspx

Islamic Radicalization in the Military Surfaces Again

The Kang case demonstrates the longstanding military practice of genuflection before the altar of political correctness remains. Lethal lessons from Fort Hood have not been learned. Outside the military, the government's Countering Violent Extremism (CVE) program founded under the prior administration sought to downplay radical Islamic terrorism and up-focus "right-wing" extremism, even when facts and statistics failed that narrative. The current administration has begun the effort to turn that CVE process in the better direction, but that process is not easy.

F stringing him up, static line him into ISIS territory and put a few Reapers with cameras to follow him and live broadcast how long it takes them to send him to the virgins.

the responses from locals are naive.
"So close to home"
"how could it happen here?"

How do you stop an ideology? It can happen anywhere. Information is ubiquitous. Radicalization doesn't need to arrive in a USPS package nor do they fly in from Syria.

The tragedy here is that we law abiding citizens have (currently) the means to defend ourselves from this kind of threat, except our tools are locked up away from our immediate time of need.

You want to stop the ideology from spreading as quickly around the world like it is? Cut off all access to the Internet. Do what China and North Korea does. Sensor, sensor sensor. That is what government regulation (also known as Net Neutrality) will bring.

We need to be able to defend ourselves under these situations and the government has in essence disarmed us. 

http://wunc.org/post/span-struggles-balance-national-security-free-speech#stream/0

FRAYER: But such laws may also be part of the reason why Spain has not suffered a terror attack since the Madrid train bombings in 2004. On the sidelines of a terrorism conference in Madrid, the country's top terrorism expert, Fernando Reinares, says Spain errs on the side of limiting free speech in order to fight terrorism because, otherwise, he says...

FERNANDO REINARES: While you are investigating these people, they are planning an attack, which actually takes place. And then you have to face your population saying, yes, we knew about this individual, but we didn't arrest them on time.

http://wunc.org/post/span-struggles-balance-national-security-free-speech#stream/0

FRAYER: But such laws may also be part of the reason why Spain has not suffered a terror attack since the Madrid train bombings in 2004. On the sidelines of a terrorism conference in Madrid, the country's top terrorism expert, Fernando Reinares, says Spain errs on the side of limiting free speech in order to fight terrorism because, otherwise, he says...

FERNANDO REINARES: While you are investigating these people, they are planning an attack, which actually takes place. And then you have to face your population saying, yes, we knew about this individual, but we didn't arrest them on time.

Spain is an interesting country to study about the lack of terror attacks. And while the article you posted is interesting and may have something to do with the lack of attacks, Spain has a very active undercover investigative team. And they are much more proactive in arresting and convicting potential terrorists. Which in my mind is the biggest reason why they have fewer terrorist attacks. I would actually think loosening up the 1st amendment rights on social media would be more beneficial to the undercover investigators. But who knows?

The only free speech not allowed in social media ASAIK is libel and threats against the government. How can it be looser than that? If one threatens the President on Twitter, then the SS come knocking.

The only free speech not allowed in social media ASAIK is libel and threats against the government. How can it be looser than that? If one threatens the President on Twitter, then the SS come knocking.

I meant loosening up free speech in Spain. Remember the subject of your posting is about the lack of free speech in Spain? Stay on topic RK. 

There is his defense right there in a nutshell. 

I think it plausible that a mental illness played a role, whether from PTSD or a pre-existing condition. Certainly the courts should consider a mental evaluation for this man.