X-Ring Security Range (Read 39569 times)

Inspector

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2017, 09:20:27 AM »
I had to read the yelp reviews.
Their ratings are all over the map.
Love them, hate them.....it's crazy.

Makes me think some of the yelps are shill bids....fake reviews by friends.
I just checked out Yelp. I agree. It is hard to get a real feel for whether they are the greatest thing since sliced bread or if they should just go away. And some of those reviews seem like a fluff piece by the local news paper.
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GlockNewb

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2017, 09:23:23 AM »
Did they have any interesting .22 LR?

Just the Aguila...spied some CCI SV and Armscor before the owner engaged and notified me of the membership fee.

 I get that you gotta do what you gotta do to survive, but I just don't make enough disposable income as is.
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Inspector

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2017, 09:26:32 AM »
Plenty hoops. I signed up on Father's Day with the free membership offer. I shot there the following Tuesday with a friend Tuesday's 2 shoot for the price of one it wasn't busy so we each had our own lane. I brought 2 rifles and 2 pistols, after the lane fee, 100 rounds of CCI SV .22 LR, 100 rounds of .40 S&W, 100 rounds of brass cased PPU 7.62x39 and 2 targets I ended up spending $175.

The backstop is rated for .50 BMG however the largest caliber they allow is .308 Win/7.62x51. They had some 54r and I asked if I could shoot that there and Brian told me no that ammo was for outside sales. There is a lesser selection of ammo in the range than they had on the other side prior to the range.

It will most likely be a once a year kinda thing to shoot there. It's nice to shoot pistols at distances closer than 25 yards.

No they didn't. It would cost you $29.95 to find out



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For comparison, I took my brother and nephew to the local range in SoCal last year. Rented 3 lanes for 1.5 hours, rented 2 firearms, purchased 12 targets and purchased 300 rounds of 9mm. We brought our own .22 and some 9mm ammo but ran out of 9mm ammo quickly. The total was around $150.
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Inspector

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2017, 09:29:05 AM »
Just the Aguila...spied some CCI SV and Armscor before the owner engaged and notified me of the membership fee.

 I get that you gotta do what you gotta do to survive, but I just don't make enough disposable income as is.
Don't waste your money on the Armscor unless you already have. To me it might be worth $20/brick but no more. And while I think highly of the Aguila, I think the CCI SV is just a little better. They usually are about the same price.
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Heavies

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2017, 09:39:26 AM »
I went to X-ring to look around and ask questions on guns and accessories.  Everyone there was helpful and friendly.  I don't know the "secret handshake" so they're very professional. I don't shoot there due to the following:

1) Location (I live in town)
2) Price
3) Hoops you have to jump through (but I understand it's a liability issue)
4) HFR is closer and lets you do what ever you want as long as it's done safely.  They have the staff watch you for a little bit to see how safe you are.
I really like HFR,   only thing that stops me from visiting more often to shoot is the parking situation.  I have a long drive over there and trying to find parking once fighting the traffic and travel time really sucks.

I look at the situation at XR as a good thing.  They have probably saved me thousands of dollars in unfired rounds.

oldfart

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2017, 09:48:00 AM »

I look at the situation at XR as a good thing.  They have probably saved me thousands of dollars in unfired rounds.
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changemyoil66

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2017, 12:36:23 PM »
I really like HFR,   only thing that stops me from visiting more often to shoot is the parking situation.  I have a long drive over there and trying to find parking once fighting the traffic and travel time really sucks.

I look at the situation at XR as a good thing.  They have probably saved me thousands of dollars in unfired rounds.

They got more stalls right across the street in front of the light store.

ren

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2017, 01:36:56 PM »
I enjoy the drive out to Kokohead and seeing fellow 2a members without paying a snobby membership fee. If they rename it Xring Country Club Id probably be inclined to join provided they have the amenities of a country club such as dining, bar nice landscape. But a country club in downtown Waipahu is out of place.
I understand it is expensive to have an indoor range but I agree with Heavies that the business model they adopted is not palpable to most shooters. I just cant afford to not only shoot there but to shop. So unless they are like Costco shoppers like myself I wont go there. They came out with marketing similar to cars. Attractive girls with one being able to shoot somewhat. Short term attention grabbers then the fizzle.
Im studying freight forwarders as thats what Im willing to pursue as an option for my purchases. If I need smithing services I have resources. If I need coaching I have resources that are free and are more than happy to travel to Hawaii at the endof the fiscal year. Some of you have participated. It was awesome. Again lots of alternatives.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2017, 02:09:54 PM »
I enjoy the drive out to Kokohead and seeing fellow 2a members without paying a snobby membership fee. If they rename it Xring Country Club Id probably be inclined to join provided they have the amenities of a country club such as dining, bar nice landscape. But a country club in downtown Waipahu is out of place.
I understand it is expensive to have an indoor range but I agree with Heavies that the business model they adopted is not palpable to most shooters. I just cant afford to not only shoot there but to shop. So unless they are like Costco shoppers like myself I wont go there. They came out with marketing similar to cars. Attractive girls with one being able to shoot somewhat. Short term attention grabbers then the fizzle.
Im studying freight forwarders as thats what Im willing to pursue as an option for my purchases. If I need smithing services I have resources. If I need coaching I have resources that are free and are more than happy to travel to Hawaii at the endof the fiscal year. Some of you have participated. It was awesome. Again lots of alternatives.

Just like Costco, Golf Country Clubs and Fitness Clubs, if you take advantage of the place regularly and frequently, the cost is worth it.  Paying the fees knowing you might not go but once every 4-12 weeks seems like a waste to me.  Then when you add the ammo cost, it starts to be more negatives than positives.

Waipahu is much closer to me than KHSC, so the savings in time and gas is a big factor.  I can drive to Waipahu for an hour of shooting and leave feeling I got my money's worth, whereas the drive to KHSC doesn't seem worth only spending an hour -- or less.  Carving out 3-4 hours to drive and shoot is a major problem sometimes, especially on weekends.  Yet, if I don't, it doesn't seem worth going at all.

For those living closer to KHSC, the time spent driving becomes less of an issue.  Location, location, location!

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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Inspector

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2017, 02:16:47 PM »
Just like Costco, ... if you take advantage of the place regularly and frequently, the cost is worth it.  Paying the fees knowing you might not go but once every 4-12 weeks seems like a waste to me.  Then when you add the ammo cost, it starts to be more negatives than positives.
Your Costco example doesn't fly for me. You see when you go to X-Ring, you have to buy a bunch of expensive ammo and use it up there. And you can't even take the brass home with you. So I relate it to going to Costco and having to buy 30 hotdog/coke combos and having to eat them there before you leave.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


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Flapp_Jackson

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2017, 02:19:22 PM »
Your Costco example doesn't fly for me. You see when you go to X-Ring, you have to buy a bunch of expensive ammo and use it up there. And you can't even take the brass home with you. So I relate it to going to Costco and having to buy 30 hotdog/coke combos and having to eat them there before you leave.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


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Do you have to shoot all the ammo you buy at XR Range, or can you take a box or two home you didn't have time to finish -- just can't bring it back to shoot?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Inspector

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2017, 02:20:41 PM »
Do you have to shoot all the ammo you buy at XR Range, or can you take a box or two home you didn't have time to finish -- just can't bring it back to shoot?
Don't know. Just messin' with you.  :geekdanc: :geekdanc: :geekdanc:
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ren

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2017, 02:20:55 PM »
Costco's attractiveness is bulk item discounts and you can have a small meal just eating samples  :thumbsup: Country clubs have large scale amenities and a social aspect. Sure XRing has league nights. You can push out your chest knowing that you are the best shooter of a small pool.
BTW, anybody who wrote in favor of the XRing range get any considerations such as perks? discounts?
I wonder how much traction there is for a public range on the west.
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Inspector

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2017, 02:23:20 PM »
Costco's attractiveness is bulk item discounts
BTW, anybody who wrote in favor of the XRing range get any considerations such as perks? discounts?
I wonder how much traction there is for a public range on the west.
I wrote a letter and got no offer for anything in return. I mentioned this to the owner one day and she thanked me. Certainly not what I was promised in return.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2017, 02:26:51 PM »
I wrote a letter and got no offer for anything in return. I mentioned this to the owner one day and she thanked me. Certainly not what I was promised in return.

I think the person making those promises overstepped his authority to do so.

JMHO.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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zippz

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2017, 03:44:37 PM »
I shot at Xring a couple of times.  It's a nice range and I enjoy shooting there because is air conditioned and there is a bit more space there than HF&R.  However I don't go there primarily because of the cost, and then the rules and procedures are irritating.  I understand safety is a concern and people shoot themselves in the leg when holstering and baffles and floors get torn up from rapid firing.  But I've never seen rules like that at any commercial range I've been to.  The membership fee to use the range is unusual, the quarterly membership prices are outrageous, the $20 rapidfire certification fee is crazy and requirement to take their Arizone CCW class to use holsters sounds like they're trying to squeeze more money out of you.  There's also a rule about no coaching allowed, so you can't help other people shoot.  Usually it's pretty simple, if someone is doing something unsafe or damaging the range, then warn them, kick em out, and charge for damages.

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ren

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2017, 04:03:51 PM »
X-Ring Security Rapid Fire Certification (pistol):



A "Rapid Fire License" ? Sounds like a Democrat requirement. It would be illegal to shoot more than 5 rounds in a 5 second period. 5 clips in 5 caliber period = illegal.
They took a page from Kokohead and capitalized it. Nyce!
Want to shoot rapid fire? That would be $20 and then you'd have to prove it to us.  :crazy:
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ren

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2017, 04:06:43 PM »
I shot at Xring a couple of times.  It's a nice range and I enjoy shooting there because is air conditioned and there is a bit more space there than HF&R.

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Bushido

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2017, 04:16:43 PM »
Thanks for all the replies. I've actually shot there a few times awhile back. I just haven't been there recently since these new "policies". If I have to pay the membership for 3 people whom will never shoot there again, I'm going to HFR. That's $90 right there. I've gone there quite a bit but the ventilation could use an upgrade.


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Bushido

Re: X-Ring Security Range
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2017, 04:18:49 PM »
Do you have to shoot all the ammo you buy at XR Range, or can you take a box or two home you didn't have time to finish -- just can't bring it back to shoot?
Yes you can take home what you don't shoot. You can not return with it to shoot. Again I haven't been there in awhile so I'm not 100% certain but that was the policy before.


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