Truth in advertising?

$10/year or $15 for the day, but limited to 1 hour?

Pretty soon, I won't be able to qualify for membership anyways as my long gun permit I think is expired or will soon and it's coming up to almost a year since I last bought a handgun.  Oh wells. . .

That subscription pricing is absofrickenlutely redonkulous!  $99 a month!  Who can afford that?  I mean seriously?  Or you have a "deal" of paying $50 a month but you have to commit to join for a year?  Sounds like they are trying to secure some yearly income up front.

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I agree. Especially since I can't even go in there to test tweak my own ammunition
As I mentioned before, it seems like the rules are meant to discourage hobbyist shooters (like myself) and even competitive shooters who are nearly 100% reloaders and need to test and tune their firearms with their own competition ammunition.

I would be willing to pay a fair monthly or annual fee if I could use the range for testing, including chronograph testing.
It would be very convenient for me as it is just a stone's throw from my house.

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I agree. Especially since I can't even go in there to test tweak my own ammunition
As I mentioned before, it seems like the rules are meant to discourage hobbyist shooters (like myself) and even competitive shooters who are nearly 100% reloaders and need to test and tune their firearms with their own competition ammunition.

I would be willing to pay a fair monthly or annual fee if I could use the range for testing, including chronograph testing.
It would be very convenient for me as it is just a stone's throw from my house.

Same here. I would be willing to pay a fair monthly/annual fee. But not if I am forced to buy ammo. Maybe someday they will realize the people who are going to support them, live here and will frequent the range often and bring in other paying customers. I live close enough that I could make a trip to the range after work for practice and testing. I was really looking forward to doing this until the real fees and rules were published.

I wrote a letter for the owners with the understanding that I would receive a discount off the membership fee in return. I posted the membership fees a few posts up. I was saving up for my yearly membership and then when I saw what the membership fees and rules turned out to be, I am discouraged. I reload for a reason. Apparently they do not want to cater to those of us who will use the range the most.

Finally asked my dad about his experience when he visited Xring with my sister and BIL maybe 2-3 weeks ago.  He said the folks were nice and they explained the membership deal.  I asked him if he saw anything that he wanted or would want to go back and he said no.  Basically they didn't have any firearms that caught his attention and ones that they did were pretty pricey.  To be fair, he hasn't bought a firearm in a while, so his sense of pricing might be skewed, but he's pretty current on reading gun mags and shows on them. 

Finally asked my dad about his experience when he visited Xring with my sister and BIL maybe 2-3 weeks ago.  He said the folks were nice and they explained the membership deal.  I asked him if he saw anything that he wanted or would want to go back and he said no.  Basically they didn't have any firearms that caught his attention and ones that they did were pretty pricey.  To be fair, he hasn't bought a firearm in a while, so his sense of pricing might be skewed, but he's pretty current on reading gun mags and shows on them.

I had a discussion with one of the people at X-Ring just a day or two after they opened. And they told me they were going meet or beat all other LGS pricing on guns and ammo. And they said they were going to totally support the reloader/hobbyist. They were going to bring in all sorts of bullets/primers/powder and sell for a good for the island price. They brought in powder/primers/bullets and ammo. All priced higher than other LGS. Then they slowly stopped carrying reloading supplies altogether. Their guns were priced at full retail and some of their consignments were too high as well. Their ammo prices were high as well. Later I was told that when the range would open they would be able to get an LEO discount on ammo. Or something to that effect. And when that happens they would be able to sell ammo at competitive prices. Last time I went in there (quite a while ago but after the range had been in operation for a while) I priced the ammo they had and they were still selling ammo at high prices compared to other LGS.

After they started carrying safes, I bought a safe from them and they did not honor the discount plus free delivery they offered. When I went in to buy it, they said discount OR free delivery but not both. It is not what they advertised. I bought it anyway since it was a good price but that left a bad taste in my mouth.

So I have not been back since.

I had a discussion with one of the people at X-Ring just a day or two after they opened. And they told me they were going meet or beat all other LGS pricing on guns and ammo. And they said they were going to totally support the reloader/hobbyist. They were going to bring in all sorts of bullets/primers/powder and sell for a good for the island price. They brought in powder/primers/bullets and ammo. All priced higher than other LGS. Then they slowly stopped carrying reloading supplies altogether. Their guns were priced at full retail and some of their consignments were too high as well. Their ammo prices were high as well. Later I was told that when the range would open they would be able to get an LEO discount on ammo. Or something to that effect. And when that happens they would be able to sell ammo at competitive prices. Last time I went in there (quite a while ago but after the range had been in operation for a while) I priced the ammo they had and they were still selling ammo at high prices compared to other LGS.

After they started carrying safes, I bought a safe from them and they did not honor the discount plus free delivery they offered. When I went in to buy it, they said discount OR free delivery but not both. It is not what they advertised. I bought it anyway since it was a good price but that left a bad taste in my mouth.

So I have not been back since.

Talk is cheap.  A conversation I've had many times with my GF. . . 

Not sure how businesses, especially in Hawaii, can stay in business doing such things.  I for one have an excellent memory.  I always remember the good service/treatment that I got and will tell friends about it.  However, even more so with negative experiences as I really appreciate the hard work that goes into each paycheck.  Like I mentioned in the other thread about service, it could be a little thing, but if someone, anyone, doesn't live up to their word, that is a real big deal for me. 

Talk is cheap.  A conversation I've had many times with my GF. . . 

Not sure how businesses, especially in Hawaii, can stay in business doing such things.  I for one have an excellent memory.  I always remember the good service/treatment that I got and will tell friends about it.  However, even more so with negative experiences as I really appreciate the hard work that goes into each paycheck.  Like I mentioned in the other thread about service, it could be a little thing, but if someone, anyone, doesn't live up to their word, that is a real big deal for me.

Agreed, talk is cheap.

I only wish them the best. I just don't know if they can stay in it for the long haul. That range has got to be costing them a lot to operate. I have stopped supporting them with my $. I spent a lot there the first couple of years they were in business. If they ever decide to support us local hobbyist types and make some rule changes and price changes accordingly, then I would reconsider range membership/use. But until then...

The Magnum business model continues...


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When I went a few months ago, I was told if you buy something (non range related) you get the membership for free.  It wasn't a special or anything but how SOP.  So I bought OC spray anyways because I needed it and was in the area.  I have yet to shoot there due to the quals and distance.  I only bought the OC there because the shop I normally go to didn't have any yet.

I am surprised XRing has not made a comment on this thread.  They are a vendor on here.

I am surprised XRing has not made a comment on this thread.  They are a vendor on here.

They are a vendor. The moderator for that forum is SpeedTek/Dex, he was described to me by the manager Brian as an outside vendor.

Brian has an account here I can't recall his name at this time though. Some of the RSO's have accounts here I don't feel that they want to speak for the company.

I don't believe Kitiya Mae has an account here.


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I am surprised XRing has not made a comment on this thread.  They are a vendor on here.

They are much more active on their Twitter account. Even their FB page rarely gets updated.


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Although I don't agree with some of their business plans, I wish them the best. Mae is a really nice person the few times I shot with her.

I chose to take my family to HFR today. They had a blast.


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What did they shoot?

I'm planning on going next week to "zero" the 9c.

What did they shoot?

I'm planning on going next week to "zero" the 9c.

They shot a 22/45 in 22lr, S&W 9C, 1911 and a AR. I zero at HFR for my pictols. I have a sight press if you'd like to borrow.

They shot a 22/45 in 22lr, S&W 9C, 1911 and a AR. I zero at HFR for my pictols. I have a sight press if you'd like to borrow.

Will let u know. Thanks!

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For those that want to shoot at X-Ring, they have a special out:

"Happy Hour with Firepower!
$5 Range Fee Tuesday through Thursday 4pm-8pm. Offer is good until Labor Day!"


I'm guessing the $30 membership fee still applies to new members

For those that want to shoot at X-Ring, they have a special out:

"Happy Hour with Firepower!
$5 Range Fee Tuesday through Thursday 4pm-8pm. Offer is good until Labor Day!"


I'm guessing the $30 membership fee still applies to new members

Free gyoza and I'm there!

Free gyoza and I'm there!

house pupus in the Pupus!