Selling high capacity magazines to LEO from out of state (Read 4660 times)

solidgun

Selling high capacity magazines to LEO from out of state
« on: February 17, 2012, 04:11:38 AM »
Hello,

I have a buyer that is interested in purchasing my firearm outside of Hawaii. I wanted to know if someone could direct me to a statute that allows a non-resident individual to transfer "high capacity" magazines to LEO in Hawaii.

I know the ones for Cali, but this is my first time working with Hawaii.

Thank you in advance.

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Re: Selling high capacity magazines to LEO from out of state
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2012, 04:19:53 AM »
I'm a little confused, are you outside Hawaii selling to a Hawaii LEO or in Hawaii selling to a LEO in another state.

If it's the former, Hawaii LEOs are allowed to own standard capacity magazines (don't call them high capacity :P), if it's the latter, it would be goverened by the laws in the receiving state.
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Re: Selling high capacity magazines to LEO from out of state
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2012, 04:22:30 AM »
I am selling it from Minnesota to LEO in Hawaii.

You know, I almost didn't call it "high capacity" magazine as I have never liked that term either, but being on this forum, I felt I had to distinguish it  ;)

Is there a specific statute that states that? I am curious as I found it for LEO in CA, but I have not been able to locate it for HI.

Thank you for the response.


One more thing:
Is there a restriction on shipping a firearm to Hawaii? For example, many dealers in southern California only accept firearm shipment from other FFLs that are certified by state of California to transfer firearms. I have no dealers that can do that here.

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Re: Selling high capacity magazines to LEO from out of state
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2012, 04:34:07 AM »
For the Hawaii law, it is goverend by HRS 134-11, which exempts them from Hawaii's neutered capacity law.
§134-11  Exemptions.  (a)  Sections 134-7 to 134-9 and 134-21 to 134-27, except section 134-7(f), shall not apply:
     (1)  To state and county law enforcement officers; provided that such persons are not convicted of an offense involving abuse of a family or household member under section 709-906;
     (2)  To members of the armed forces of the State and of the United States and mail carriers while in the performance of their respective duties if those duties require them to be armed;
     (3)  To regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive the weapons from the United States or from the State; provided the members are either at, or going to or from, their places of assembly or target practice;
     (4)  To persons employed by the State, or subdivisions thereof, or the United States while in the performance of their respective duties or while going to and from their respective places of duty if those duties require them to be armed;
     (5)  To aliens employed by the State, or subdivisions thereof, or the United States while in the performance of their respective duties or while going to and from their respective places of duty if those duties require them to be armed; and
     (6)  To police officers on official assignment in Hawaii from any state which by compact permits police officers from Hawaii while on official assignment in that state to carry firearms without registration.  The governor of the State or the governor's duly authorized representative may enter into compacts with other states to carry out this paragraph.
     (b)  Sections 134-2 and 134-3 shall not apply to such firearms or ammunition that are a part of the official equipment of any federal agency.
     (c)  Sections 134-8, 134-9, and 134-21 to 134-27, shall not apply to the possession, transportation, or use, with blank cartridges, of any firearm or explosive solely as props for motion picture film or television program production when authorized by the chief of police of the appropriate county pursuant to section 134-2.5 and not in violation of federal law. [L 1988, c 275, pt of §2 and am c 272, §2; am L 1989, c 211, §10; am L 1990, c 281, §11; am L 1996, c 60, §§1, 2; am L 1999, c 202, §1 and c 297, §2; am L 2006, c 66, §4]

As for the restrictions on shipping a firearm, I believe that the FFL will be the final determination on whether or not they can receive a firearm from an individual.
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Re: Selling high capacity magazines to LEO from out of state
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2012, 04:38:35 AM »
I really appreciate the information and thank you for taking time to provide them.

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Re: Selling high capacity magazines to LEO from out of state
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 06:11:03 AM »
LEO's can purchase hi cap magazines from the local gun stores or any online merchant. All they have to do is supply their creditentials as proof that they are law enforcement.

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Re: Selling high capacity magazines to LEO from out of state
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2012, 07:44:22 AM »
You can legally ship the pistol with any magazine to Hawaii. (To a FFL)

The FFL in Hawaii will determine whether or not the purchasing party is allowed to have standard capacity magazines.

If not, they'll either A) Switch the mags to low capacity mags, or B) transfer the firearm without the magazines.

Either way, you're legally covered.
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Selling high capacity magazines to LEO from out of state
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2012, 08:41:51 AM »
You can legally ship the pistol with any magazine to Hawaii. (To a FFL)

The FFL in Hawaii will determine whether or not the purchasing party is allowed to have standard capacity magazines.

If not, they'll either A) Switch the mags to low capacity mags, or B) transfer the firearm without the magazines.

Either way, you're legally covered.
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