6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it (Read 8364 times)

tim808

6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« on: September 12, 2017, 11:21:10 AM »
Besides Kokohead, do any of the military ranges allow 6.5 Grendel?

I know puuloa does not allow it.

Tnx!

ren

Re: 6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2017, 12:13:28 PM »
Besides Kokohead, do any of the military ranges allow 6.5 Grendel?

I know puuloa does not allow it.

Tnx!

Try Schofield. I know the military has tondo an eval on the cartridge. Until Grendel gets adopted by the mil theres little incentive to pursue an eval.
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mrgaf

Re: 6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2017, 02:56:58 PM »
Try Schofield. I know the military has tondo an eval on the cartridge. Until Grendel gets adopted by the mil theres little incentive to pursue an eval.

Just curious but why doesn't Puuloa allow it? ???
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ren

Re: 6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2017, 03:09:29 PM »
Just curious but why doesn't Puuloa allow it? ???

they haven't tested the 6.5 Grendel cartridge's ballistics
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zippz

Re: 6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2017, 03:13:25 PM »
Just curious but why doesn't Puuloa allow it? ???

This has been an ongoing issue.  The range officially supports 5.56, 7.62x51, and 30-06 only.  This is due to the impact zone boundary over the water for watercraft which is around 6,000 meters and is the maximum range of a 30-06 bthp match round.  No round can exceed the range of that.  The marines have to certify and test other calibers to allow it on the range.  Because the marines don't shoot calibers other than 5.56, 7.62, and 30-06, they have no need to do so.

Schofield also has limits per range, because some of them face eachother.  I imagine they are more lenient on calibers because ranges like KR3 allows for .50 cal and others share the same range area as the artilery.    Although I do remember there was an issue long ago where club members couldn't shoot muskets because they didn't allow anything  .50cal. and over
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zippz

Re: 6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2017, 03:17:26 PM »
For civilians that want to shoot long range here, I always recommend them to get 5.56, 7.62 or 30-06 should they eventually want to shoot at Puuloa.  Later they complain when they can't shoot their 6.5 creedmore at Puuloa and have to make do with 100 yards at Koko Head.

tim808

Re: 6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2017, 06:55:20 PM »
Tnx zippz!

I was just wondering because there was a older guy at kokohead shooting Grendel.  He looked like a shooter from Puuloa

(He had the jacket, the cart and was shooting in the sitting position.  Thought he was shooting 223....found out later that his ar was in Grendel 6.5)

Anyway, thought if he was shooting Grendel, there must be another range that also allows Grendel.

ren

Re: 6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2017, 07:01:36 PM »
Tnx zippz!

I was just wondering because there was a older guy at kokohead shooting Grendel.  He looked like a shooter from Puuloa

(He had the jacket, the cart and was shooting in the sitting position.  Thought he was shooting 223....found out later that his ar was in Grendel 6.5)

Anyway, thought if he was shooting Grendel, there must be another range that also allows Grendel.

sounds like Dr. Ako or perhaps Tom M. but he shoots a 6.5 Creedmoor in a tube gun
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dustoff003

Re: 6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2017, 07:18:34 PM »

aieahound

Re: 6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2017, 08:10:03 PM »
This has been an ongoing issue.  The range officially supports 5.56, 7.62x54, and 30-06 only.

7.62x54 or x51 ? 54r?

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Bushido

Re: 6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2017, 08:11:57 PM »
sounds like Dr. Ako or perhaps Tom M. but he shoots a 6.5 Creedmoor in a tube gun

I saw Doc also shooting 300BO this weekend but he was shooting off the bench at the time.

ren

Re: 6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2017, 08:12:31 PM »
7.62x54 or x51 ? 54r?

Got an apptmt Monday to get my fillings re- done from the 7.62x63.
Our World War boys were Bad Asses. (No recoil pad)
I'm a wimp. Love .243.

that's a typo 7.62x51 or 308WIN
I'm confident 7.62x54 is not authorized on that range
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ren

Re: 6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2017, 08:13:51 PM »
since we are talking the 6.5 Grendel
Larue is offering http://www.larue.com/65-grendel-fde
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powder monkey

Re: 6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2017, 08:59:06 PM »
Tom M 
Also shoots a ar that is in 6mm ar.

mrgaf

Re: 6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2017, 09:03:36 PM »
Ahsoka! Got it. Never shot at Puuloa. Makes perfect sense though. Thanks all for the edjumacation!  :shaka:
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drck1000

Re: 6.5 Grendel - what ranges allow it
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2017, 09:26:29 PM »
SDZ is one reason/factor, especially for ranges open to the sky. We've had many range designs that have rows of canopies to prevent the "high flyers".

Not sure about Army ranges, but Navy and USMC ranges all have SOP and certification and most are tied to specific calibers. Some are even specific to allowed targets (like no steel for shorter ranges and 5.56). It can take a lot of paperwork and range SME to change the range certification to shoot a different caliber.


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