So apparently there was another shooting murder again today in hawaii days after another shooting murder following multiple firearm involved robbery csses. So the discussion here is... is the state of Hawaii becoming one of those strict gun laws state high gun crime issues?

Because I'm sure we'll I'm pretty positive the shooters or perpetrators all of them didn't pay their rap back fees. You get my point?

Sorry this just came to me  the Waikiki shooter just got here in Hawaii... isn't the permit wait period 2 weeks?
Hmm somebody  (shooter) didn't read the rules. Hate to tell him "I didn't know" has never won a case in court ever. Hope he got a better alibi then a recently released death row inmate. Yeah they innocent. 

Sorry this just came to me  the Waikiki shooter just got here in Hawaii... isn't the permit wait period 2 weeks?
Hmm somebody  (shooter) didn't read the rules. Hate to tell him "I didn't know" has never won a case in court ever. Hope he got a better alibi then a recently released death row inmate. Yeah they innocent.

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He had a long record in Delaware.
He was arrested for assault 2 days before the shooting.
They let him go.
What's wrong with this picture.

Delaware courts are too strict they needed to go somewhere that the courts and AG are complete fools as so they can continue their criminal ways.

and the answer would be more gun laws - because obviously breaking the ones already in place is not enough for a criminal
murder, robbery....not enough MOAR GUN LOLs

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He had a long record in Delaware.
He was arrested for assault 2 days before the shooting.
They let him go.
What's wrong with this picture.

http://khon2.com/2017/09/20/new-pilot-program-offers-criminals-help/

Hawaii's law makers need to have the following laws to prevent this from happening again:

1) Make it illegal for felons to posses a gun
2) Make it illegal to leave the house with a gun
3) Make it illegal to transport any gun not in an enclosed case
4) Have some kind of tracking system in place for the gun (registration, federal data base, etc...)
5) Make it illegal for the victims to return fire via guns also outside of their home or business so as to not hit innocent bystanders walking by

Hawaii's law makers need to have the following laws to prevent this from happening again:

1) Make it illegal for felons to posses a gun
2) Make it illegal to leave the house with a gun
3) Make it illegal to transport any gun not in an enclosed case
4) Have some kind of tracking system in place for the gun (registration, federal data base, etc...)
5) Make it illegal for the victims to return fire via guns also outside of their home or business so as to not hit innocent bystanders walking by

EXACTLY. So these didn't work...  need to add more to the list.

make it illegal for a criminal to shoot someone while robbing them...

How about making it illegal not to follow laws?

make it illegal for a criminal to shoot someone while robbing them...

How about making it illegal not to follow laws?

It's illegal to do illegal acts of illegal things. 

How about a law to prohibit anybody with a criminal record to enter the state?

How about making it illegal not to follow laws?

A law like that should  prevent all future crime.

How about a law to prohibit anybody with a criminal record to enter the state?

uh silly you... Mr Doug chin is the spear head on that fight to let them ALL IN and. .... and in addition to let them in refuse to send them packing . Well that's a little different situation BUT kinda the same in respect to public safety if you think about it.

uh silly you... Mr Doug chin is the spear head on that fight to let them ALL IN and. .... and in addition to let them in refuse to send them packing

and that's the problem - they're bringing in their voting base because the local, REAL people of the State of Hawaii are sick and tired of their shit
these shenanigans with the rail, HOPE and increase in violent crime like this because they keep letting them out can only last so long till the people vote them out

My oldest son is a supporter of the RFID trigger lock. Reportedly, the manufacturers receive death threats from the extreme 2A crowd, so they have been hesitant to mass produce them. My question is hypothetically would you pay extra for RFID trigger if the firearm had less restrictions such as no rapback or allowed to store in vehicle?

My oldest son is a supporter of the RFID trigger lock. Reportedly, the manufacturers receive death threats from the extreme 2A crowd, so they have been hesitant to mass produce them. My question is hypothetically would you pay extra for RFID trigger if the firearm had less restrictions such as no rapback or allowed to store in vehicle?

Do some research why people are against it...


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Do some research why people are against it...
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Sorry. The point I was trying to make is that would less restrictions overcome the problems that RFID triggers have?

Sorry. The point I was trying to make is that would less restrictions overcome the problems that RFID triggers have?

No restrictions are acceptable


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Sorry. The point I was trying to make is that would less restrictions overcome the problems that RFID triggers have?

Are you making a point, or are you asking a question?  I don't see you making a point, but rather asking others to tell you what they think.

There is a point of diminishing returns with laws. There already several laws that were broken. You can appease the emotionally affected by realistically what can a lawmaker do? Sure they like to stand tall and say "There MUST be something to do."
Yes there is.
Empower the victims. We've already legislated the hell out of criminals to the point of overreach into the law abiding citizen - the victim in all cases.
How many laws did these criminals break?