there is a slight change to the format of the letter required by HPD if you have been red flagged
I think this changed in the past couple months or so
they now require the letter to contain the Dr's license number in the letter head
which means you need another letter from the Dr.  it cannot just be written in.
that's another hoop for us to jump through.
had a couple rookies working the window today at hpd.  it was not a good day for me.

Did they change the Kaiser form or is this for a red flag only?

Probably red flag only, I went there a few weeks ago.  The medical BS forms you fill out for them haven't changed. No need for correspondence from the doctor, HPD confirms with them directly.   I normally fill out my doctor's name and use kaiser's standard address and hotline phone number.  I have no clue what my Dr's license # is.

 yeah, they're training a couple of rookies, which makes it take longer.  And they seem to sporadically close down the permitting side (left side) for no reason.  When that happens, lines tend to backup cause the firearm registration side has to handle both duties.

its for red flags only

HPD does not communicate with any doctor. a Kaiser records office clerk informs hpd if you have seen behavioral health or a psychologist for any reason.  then HPD makes the call by themselves whether to red flag you or not.  no doctor is ever consulted.
doesn't matter on what grounds HPD red flags you, once you are red flagged for whatever reason, you are red flagged forever and you cannot get out of being red flagged.

if Kaiser did not adopt their new policy of sending HPD your records, and saying they wont deny you or clear you, we would not be having this problem
Kaiser has a BS anti-2A policy and HPD takes advantage of it
it's both hpd and Kaiser's fault together.  no other insurance has this problem

its for red flags only

HPD does not communicate with any doctor. a Kaiser records office clerk informs hpd if you have seen behavioral health or a psychologist for any reason.  then HPD makes the call by themselves whether to red flag you or not.  no doctor is ever consulted.
doesn't matter on what grounds HPD red flags you, once you are red flagged for whatever reason, you are red flagged forever and you cannot get out of being red flagged.

Thanks for the clarification.  Kaiser seems like they're trying to avoid any sort of potential liability by basically throwing their hands up in the air and saying "we will not certify, not our problem".  So basically once HPD flags you, then they require you to get a new "mental pass" from your physician every time you try to register a gun?  That sucks. 

And I'd imagine HPD, being HPD isn't going to bother with evaluating every one that has seen a behavioral specialist or psychologist.  They'll just red flag everyone.

Medical license numbers are public.  You can look them up here
https://pvl.ehawaii.gov/pvlsearch/

Use the business / individual search.  If it does not show up try different variations,  Mine does not show up if "lastname,firstname" is typed. but it shows up if "firstname lastname"

If you are on the big island, cant get one done by Kaiser, PM me and I can give you an idea how I can handle it at my clinic (the clinic is still going to charge for a visit, etc).  Since I'm immune to prosecution for signing these there is very little that would make me say no on one of them. 

Good info to know because I never bother to check if my doctor's license is up to date when I visit. Now I know.

My son has mild autism so I wondered what process he would have to go through. I imagine it would be an awkward conversation to have with his psychiatrist.

Medical license numbers are public.  You can look them up here
https://pvl.ehawaii.gov/pvlsearch/

Use the business / individual search.  If it does not show up try different variations,  Mine does not show up if "lastname,firstname" is typed. but it shows up if "firstname lastname"

If you are on the big island, cant get one done by Kaiser, PM me and I can give you an idea how I can handle it at my clinic (the clinic is still going to charge for a visit, etc).  Since I'm immune to prosecution for signing these there is very little that would make me say no on one of them.

I have the dr's license number, but its not printed on the paper
they wont allow you to write it in, it must be a whole new letter from the doctor
which makes it more inconvenient

Good info to know because I never bother to check if my doctor's license is up to date when I visit. Now I know.

My son has mild autism so I wondered what process he would have to go through. I imagine it would be an awkward conversation to have with his psychiatrist.

If they simply said he had autism that would probably be a red flag. I would expect that they would want an explanation saying that his level of autism was not severe enough to be a danger. Heck, there are probably cops with autism in HPD.

If they simply said he had autism that would probably be a red flag. I would expect that they would want an explanation saying that his level of autism was not severe enough to be a danger. Heck, there are probably cops with autism in HPD.

Probably?