Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas (Read 80591 times)

Heavies

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #100 on: October 03, 2017, 08:19:44 PM »
A few things been thinking about that seem sketchy to me..

All the vids I've seen have full auto fire going on.  No semi auto.  So he had ONE rifle with a bump stock, and 13 others semi auto, yet used only the bump stock equipped rifle?  Why all the other hardware?  Why all AR15s? Most gun people don't buy 14 of the same rifle...  why would you?  From 400 yards away the major sound you would hear is only the crack of the bullet, the actual gunshot would be much quieter, muffled, and lagged behind.

bass monkey

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #101 on: October 03, 2017, 08:25:35 PM »
I want to see the casino security footage. 
I doubt us ordinary folk will ever see it though.

Doesn't the media usually have schematics all mapped out with timelines and everything down already

bass monkey

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #102 on: October 03, 2017, 08:29:26 PM »
A few things been thinking about that seem sketchy to me..

All the vids I've seen have full auto fire going on.  No semi auto.  So he had ONE rifle with a bump stock, and 13 others semi auto, yet used only the bump stock equipped rifle?  Why all the other hardware?  Why all AR15s? Most gun people don't buy 14 of the same rifle...  why would you?  From 400 yards away the major sound you would hear is only the crack of the bullet, the actual gunshot would be much quieter, muffled, and lagged behind.

Yup that fucker sounded loud
Anywho,  I'm thinking the same thing as you.
All rifles are the infamous AR15
With all the scary features try want to ban
High capacity magazines.  Bump fire.  Shoulder thing that goes up.
Plus the timing of it all,  with the suppressor bill up for hearing tomorrow

macsak

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #103 on: October 03, 2017, 08:30:01 PM »
A few things been thinking about that seem sketchy to me..

All the vids I've seen have full auto fire going on.  No semi auto.  So he had ONE rifle with a bump stock, and 13 others semi auto, yet used only the bump stock equipped rifle?  Why all the other hardware?  Why all AR15s? Most gun people don't buy 14 of the same rifle...  why would you?  From 400 yards away the major sound you would hear is only the crack of the bullet, the actual gunshot would be much quieter, muffled, and lagged behind.

is the daniel defense 5.56?
the magwell and mag look big

bass monkey

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #104 on: October 03, 2017, 08:31:42 PM »
They say he used 556 and 308

2ahavvaii

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #105 on: October 03, 2017, 08:32:46 PM »
Didn't want to post but there is one more pic showing the result of him taking his life...looks like from a snub nose. Heard the investigators are pretty pissed that the media released the photos, rightfully so but what do they expect from todays media.

Picture 3 has a piece of paper under a roll of tape with a pen next to it.  could be a manifesto or suicide note.

zippz

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #106 on: October 03, 2017, 08:55:02 PM »
A few things been thinking about that seem sketchy to me..

All the vids I've seen have full auto fire going on.  No semi auto.  So he had ONE rifle with a bump stock, and 13 others semi auto, yet used only the bump stock equipped rifle?  Why all the other hardware?  Why all AR15s? Most gun people don't buy 14 of the same rifle...  why would you?  From 400 yards away the major sound you would hear is only the crack of the bullet, the actual gunshot would be much quieter, muffled, and lagged behind.

He supposedly had at least 2 bump fire stocks.  If he fired auto the whole time, he would've had to switch guns or else it'd jam.  If he fired 60 rnd mags in 10 seconds add in 5 seconds to reload, it equals 240 rounds a minute or 2400 rnds for 10 minutes.  Probably switched positions and didn't do constant mag dumps, so I figure 1,000 to 2,000 rounds fired?

ren

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #107 on: October 03, 2017, 09:16:37 PM »
A few things been thinking about that seem sketchy to me..

All the vids I've seen have full auto fire going on.  No semi auto.  So he had ONE rifle with a bump stock, and 13 others semi auto, yet used only the bump stock equipped rifle?  Why all the other hardware?  Why all AR15s? Most gun people don't buy 14 of the same rifle...  why would you?  From 400 yards away the major sound you would hear is only the crack of the bullet, the actual gunshot would be much quieter, muffled, and lagged behind.

Yep. Just like pulling pit duty - the crack of the bullet you hear above you then the gunshot.
Deeds Not Words

macsak

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #108 on: October 03, 2017, 09:24:50 PM »
He supposedly had at least 2 bump fire stocks.  If he fired auto the whole time, he would've had to switch guns or else it'd jam.  If he fired 60 rnd mags in 10 seconds add in 5 seconds to reload, it equals 240 rounds a minute or 2400 rnds for 10 minutes.  Probably switched positions and didn't do constant mag dumps, so I figure 1,000 to 2,000 rounds fired?

in the pictures, you don't see anywhere near that many shell casings
nor empty mags
yeah, ok, we're never going to see the whole room, but anyways...

macsak

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #109 on: October 03, 2017, 09:29:16 PM »
He supposedly had at least 2 bump fire stocks.  If he fired auto the whole time, he would've had to switch guns or else it'd jam.  If he fired 60 rnd mags in 10 seconds add in 5 seconds to reload, it equals 240 rounds a minute or 2400 rnds for 10 minutes.  Probably switched positions and didn't do constant mag dumps, so I figure 1,000 to 2,000 rounds fired?

he never fired auto...

mangosteenqueen

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #110 on: October 03, 2017, 10:28:00 PM »
Fullauto or not, we’ve  seen the iraqvet8888 meltdown videos. The AR won’t last for long with continuous rapid fire, the gas tube and/or barrel will explode due to heat generated.

Jl808

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #111 on: October 04, 2017, 06:01:58 AM »
Kind of tin foil hat territory but is there anything to the claim that there was a second shooter on the 4th floor?

Police Scanner audio


2 separate videos of 4th floor muzzle flash

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Mr. Farknocker

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #112 on: October 04, 2017, 07:25:08 AM »
There's also a third shooter in the right top corner in the video at the 1:08 minute mark.

bass monkey

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #113 on: October 04, 2017, 07:42:03 AM »
 There's pictures going around inquiring if the shooter is a crisis actor.  He looks like the same guy from Sandy hook incident

macsak

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #114 on: October 04, 2017, 07:53:42 AM »
He supposedly had at least 2 bump fire stocks.  If he fired auto the whole time, he would've had to switch guns or else it'd jam.  If he fired 60 rnd mags in 10 seconds add in 5 seconds to reload, it equals 240 rounds a minute or 2400 rnds for 10 minutes.  Probably switched positions and didn't do constant mag dumps, so I figure 1,000 to 2,000 rounds fired?

"Jill Snyder, special agent in charge of the ATF's San Francisco division, also confirmed that 12 of the weapons were modified with technology known as a "bump-stock'' that allows for rapid firing, similar to a machine gun."

shdws

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #115 on: October 04, 2017, 08:47:15 AM »
Check out that stack of mags.  From what I can see, if they were all loaded, maybe 1500 or more cartridges ready to go.

rklapp

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #116 on: October 04, 2017, 09:14:34 AM »
I agree that it looks like muzzle flashes on the 4th floor. Where would they be shooting from without breaking a window? Would be a bad angle... I suppose the shooter would be positioned to shoot at the emergency vehicles on the Strip.

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ren

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #117 on: October 04, 2017, 09:27:51 AM »
Vegas casinos have very tight security. Dont know how another shooter could have gotten away or not have been identified.
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rklapp

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #118 on: October 04, 2017, 10:12:49 AM »
I've seen the fire and security center at City Center. We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars in surveillance equipment. I imagine that every bag that enters the casinos will now be scrutinized.

I remember one time walking through MGM and there were two 20 somethings walking in front of us carrying a sleeping bag between them with something very heavy inside. I said to my son that they're either carrying a full kegger or a dead body. I don't imagine the casino security will allow that to happen anymore.
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zippz

Re: Active Shooter(s) -- Las Vegas
« Reply #119 on: October 04, 2017, 11:13:59 AM »
Bag screening at the casinos?  Can't bring "stuff" in anymore.  Dann where do I stay in Vegas now.