https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/quarterback-colin-kaepernick-tells-cbs-hell-stand-during-national-anthem-if-given-chance-to-play-football-in-nfl-again/2017/10/08/fb1e5268-ac4a-11e7-9b93-b97043e57a22_story.html?utm_term=.d9f15ab80d63

This whole kneeling thing was just a ploy to begin with. Whatever excuse he has now exposes that this "movement" was all about him.
I have a feeling that some anti-US groups are milking celebrities somehow.

The part no one is talking about is his asking price.
If I'm not mistaken he had a bad year starting with the 49ers
If he's still asking to get paid 1st string starting quarterback pay,  with a record like that,  I don't think anyone is willing to pay.
I've heard that another team made him an offer but he declined.
All the while still acting like it's a protest issue.

Just read that Colon's communist girlfriend said there was no such statement. 

See BS has retracted the story.  Fake news from the MSM?  What a shock.

Appears he takes orders from her, which was likely what started this mess.

** FAKE NEWS **

NEW YORK (AP) - CORRECTION: CBS reporter clarifies on saying Kaepernick would stand for anthem, says they didn't discuss issue.

Translation:  The reporter made this up.

** FAKE NEWS **



Translation:  The reporter made this up.

Easy mistake to make


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I'd be ashamed if I was a kneeling NFL football player

http://buffalonews.com/2017/10/05/94-year-old-widow-amputee-stand-national-anthem-tonights-sabres-home-opener/

Why hasn’t he moved to Cuba yet if the US sucks so much?

I am tired of this whole issue. I don't care if he stands or kneels. I am tired of the news covering this so much. I am tired of hearing politicians jump into the mix. I am irritated Pence wasted our tax payer money to fly to a game just to protest a protest which was obviously a preplanned stunt. Can't this just go away? NFL, do whatever you want with football players who don't stand, I don't care and don't want to hear about it anymore.

I am tired of this whole issue. I don't care if he stands or kneels. I am tired of the news covering this so much. I am tired of hearing politicians jump into the mix. I am irritated Pence wasted our tax payer money to fly to a game just to protest a protest which was obviously a preplanned stunt. Can't this just go away? NFL, do whatever you want with football players who don't stand, I don't care and don't want to hear about it anymore.

I applaud Pence for what he did - planned or not.
Some of these privileged, self-unaware, elitists need a spanking. The NFL created this mess. They failed to police their own and it has grown to a national embarrassment. They are entertainers. They are not politicians and not SJWs. Play football. Honor those before you and honor this country for the fruits you enjoy.
I'd rather hear from a standing VP than a former President that the left media keeps quoting as if he was still President and relevant.

Whether or not what Pence did was a publicity stunt as the MSM says or not, it made a statement that rang loud and clear to those who are also offended by taking a knee.

I applaud Pence for what he did - planned or not.
Some of these privileged, self-unaware, elitists need a spanking. The NFL created this mess. They failed to police their own and it has grown to a national embarrassment. They are entertainers. They are not politicians and not SJWs. Play football. Honor those before you and honor this country for the fruits you enjoy.
I'd rather hear from a standing VP than a former President that the left media keeps quoting as if he was still President and relevant.

I don't care. The stunt/incident wasn't worth the tens of thousands of dollars of our tax payer dollars. Government officials should stay out of it, it is not their job and they just make it messy. The NFL is a private business, let the free market do its own work and the situation will be rectified one way or another.

Entertainers are just as free as you and I and anyone else to make whatever political statement they want whether smart or stupid. In this case I think their protest is stupid but not because they kneel during the anthem but because is protesting something that for the most part is a lie, something that doesn't exist. I am not offended that they kneel doing the anthem or for the flag personally. I personally don't care much about symbolism so I don't get offended if someone doesn't pay respect to an object in some prescribed way. I do realize others care more about symbolism thus I would not suggest a protest by kneeling during the anthem for practical reasons though. Beyond that I just don't care.

Practically speaking I think that if we ignored it, it would be more likely to go away.

Why hasn’t he moved to Cuba yet if the US sucks so much?

For the same reason all the other Hollywood celebs who said they would leave the US if Trump was elected President.  No can make money outside of US.

The only reason they felt emboldened to make such a statement was because the polls showed Trump had no chance of winning.  They can talk the talk, but cannot walk the walk.

I personally don't care much about symbolism so I don't get offended if someone doesn't pay respect to an object in some prescribed way. I do realize others care more about symbolism thus I would not suggest a protest by kneeling during the anthem for practical reasons though. Beyond that I just don't care.

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In nature, the concept of symbolism is what separates intelligent creatures from primitive creatures. It is how civilization works.
If people disregard common symbols, then society will degenerate to the level of slugs and snails.

Example:
You have a beautifully manicured front yard.
You post a sign that says "KEEP OFF THE GRASS" or "NO TRESPASSING"
A dog, cat, slug, snail, bird or insect doesn't care about the symbolic warning sign.
But most people would recognize the sign as a symbol to avoid the area.
If someone ignores the sign, you call the police.
The police would come showing their symbolic badge which civilized people would pay respect to.

So you see how important it is for civilized people to pay respect to symbols?

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In nature, the concept of symbolism is what separates intelligent creatures from primitive creatures. It is how civilization works.
If people disregard common symbols, then society will degenerate to the level of slugs and snails.

Example:
You have a beautifully manicured front yard.
You post a sign that says "KEEP OFF THE GRASS" or "NO TRESPASSING"
A dog, cat, slug, snail, bird or insect doesn't care about the symbolic warning sign.
But most people would recognize the sign as a symbol to avoid the area.
If someone ignores the sign, you call the police.
The police would come showing their symbolic badge which civilized people would pay respect to.

So you see how important it is for civilized people to pay respect to symbols?

No, I don't.
I also do not agree with the premise, about how civilization works.

A keep of the grass sign is not a symbol, it is a set of instructions. I don't respect the sign, I respect that someone wants to protect the grass while it grows, I respect their wishes and the rule of law.

I don't get emotional when someone "disrespects" a symbol. Kinda takes the wind out of their sails as well if they are trying to get a reaction.

No, I don't.
I also do not agree with the premise, about how civilization works.

A keep of the grass sign is not a symbol, it is a set of instructions. I don't respect the sign, I respect that someone wants to protect the grass while it grows, I respect their wishes and the rule of law.

I don't get emotional when someone "disrespects" a symbol. Kinda takes the wind out of their sails as well if they are trying to get a reaction.

What about your badge? Isn't that a recognized symbol of a law enforcement officer?

It's not a requirement of civilization to pay respect to symbols. That being said I acknowledge symbols carry meaning to certain individuals and you may offend them by disrespecting their beliefs.

There was supposed to be some kind of big announcement that players would have to stand but now that I look into it, the outcome was that no changes were made. I'm curious why the media just let this story fade away without making their usual fuss.

He's a martyr now, which is good for his "movement.". I don't see him playing again, doesn't fit the narrative.

What about your badge? Isn't that a recognized symbol of a law enforcement officer?

A badge or a patch is a symbol of sorts but more importantly it is an identifying mark. You can tell the police officer is legitimate because he has a badge. You can tell what unit a soldier is in by his patch. The badge doesn't make the officer. If I were a cop I wouldn't care if someone stepped on an image of the badge or refused to pay respect to the badge etc. Demanding people respect the badge can end up excusing bad police behavior.

A badge or a patch is a symbol of sorts but more importantly it is an identifying mark. You can tell the police officer is legitimate because he has a badge. You can tell what unit a soldier is in by his patch. The badge doesn't make the officer. If I were a cop I wouldn't care if someone stepped on an image of the badge or refused to pay respect to the badge etc. Demanding people respect the badge can end up excusing bad police behavior.

you just defined a symbol

you just defined a symbol

And?

Symbol or not I don't care because I don't place much value on symbolism.