I would love to see a cheap and viable option for a pistol brass catcher that doesn't attach to the gun, must be adjustable, and break down for transport.

All the C&C needs to do is run some lumber from front to back of the positions.  From there a couple of c-clamps or other plus a bedsheet would work. 

..........................More of an annoyance is when only 3 of the 20 shooters go to fix the targets.  Once, there were about 10 shooters, and it was my son, another guy, and me were the only ones that went out to reset the targets.  While out there, I suggested to the other guy not to fix targets on the next cease fire.  He agreed and when the time came.  No one went out.  It was frickin unbelievable.  Maybe the newbies don't know?  Or is it "ainokea"? I don't think so though, because the local looking people usually go out.  It's my observation and I could be wrong, but it's usually the younger crowd that doesn't do shit.

Rant over.   

I never set up targets at the silhouette side, but then again I never shoot at the small targets only the large plates.  With regards to the other guys shooting 22lr and not setting up targets I think it's probably a mix of don't care and don't know.  Same thing as when you are driving on the road with these same guys.

good point.  but i was referring to the silhouette range.

As was I.

Flying brass is like going to the beach and getting sand up your shorts. Sometimes it rubs you the wrong way and sometimes it even hurts. But then, you shake it off and keep going.

I've gotten into this with abunaitoo before. 

If you truly believe it is dangerous then the folks coming to the range should have mandatory covered footwear, long pants, and long sleeve shirts at a minimum.  If you truly believe brass to be that kind of danger, then it is your duty to write to the C&C and advise them of this inherent, immediate and present danger to the public.

I believe that we as shooters should police our own ranks.

If we write to the City and County about the unsafe condition and they close the range, then what? Wait for C&C to build booths or barriers? Let us say we write to C&C and they do nothing, and someone gets hurt. They will get sued for operating with an identified unsafe condition and shut down the range.

Safety is the major factor in all firearms related training or recreational activities. We should remind shooters to stay behind the yellow line for safety, not just because someone will yell at you. Watch the new shooters on how they operate their rifles and pistols and let them know the posted procedures for the range and instruct on shooter ettiquette. Police up your brass and trash. .

I personally bring extra eye protection, earplugs, hats, and a extra long sleeve shirt for people I train or even strangers that are new shooters that have obvious deficiencies or cleavage.

Flying brass is like going to the beach and getting sand up your shorts. Sometimes it rubs you the wrong way and sometimes it even hurts. But then, you shake it off and keep going.

Same thing with making love in a hayloft.  Except you don't wear shorts.  But you keep going no matter what.

IMHO:

If someone has a catcher, great.  If not, that's cool.  Unless his gun's brass is zeroed on my head and we can't work something out, It doesn't really bother me.   I have a net because I reload.  I must think its funny whenever a case slips down my shirt cuz I always end up laughing 

That being said, my AK's make it rain off the metal roof on the rifle range.  Unless the partition is floor to ceiling, it won't stop the rain. 

"Should brass catchers be mandatory?"

Of course!!!  Just as seat belts and helmets are required.  Everyone knows that we NEED the government to pass laws "for our own good" since we are incapable of taking care of ourselves.

that have obvious deficiencies or cleavage.

I hope that you are not saying that cleavage is a deficiency?

Seriously though, I hear what you are saying and for the most part I agree.  It is unfortunately that we live in such a litigious society that someone getting burned by hot brass at a shooting range creates concern regarding the possibility of a lawsuite.

I wasn't going to post, but what the hell-

I've lived in a half dozen states,  been to 3 times as many ranges and have never seen mandatory brass catchers.  While we need to be courteous to others, be responsible stewards and foster new shooters into the sport, some of this stuff is just getting way too politically correct for me.

What are we going to complain about next, it's too hot, we need fans .....it's too far to walk out to the target, we need auto returns.......it's too bright, we need more shade.....it's too loud, well I would agree with needing a suppressor, but you get the point.

A lot of this stuff sounds like my 6 year old daughter, but even she is harder than that and knows to expect brass from a gun!

All the analogies already posted I agree with; if you don't like sand, don't go to the beach, if you don't like hay, get off the farmers daughter and if you don't like brass don't go to the range.

Bottom line- brass catchers are nice, but not needed. Be courteous to your fellow shooters and keep the mandatory items to true safety concerns.

I am not saying that brass catchers should be mandatory. But if you know you boomstick is tossing hot brass directly at another shooter, do something to mitigate the hazard - brass catcher, shooting stool, cardboard box, ect.  It's plain good manners.

I run ranges at Puuloa. Per Marines...No covered footwear = no shoot. Per NRA/CMP...No Muzzle breakes on rifles - side blasts disturb other shooters. Per National Guard....No helmet and body armor = no shoot.

Rules vary with every organization.

Range users should abide by the rules of that particular range and organization running it, be safe, and at least attempt to be polite.

I hope that you are not saying that cleavage is a deficiency?

Seriously though, I hear what you are saying and for the most part I agree.  It is unfortunately that we live in such a litigious society that someone getting burned by hot brass at a shooting range creates concern regarding the possibility of a lawsuite.

I have not seen any liability waivers or "Hold Harmless" agreements other that the Silhouette Range.

Cleavage is not a deficiency, but it is a magnet for hot brass whether it is on the top front or bottom rear.

Deficiency = clothing that fails to protect sensitive areas, tissue paper instead of approved hearing protection or eye wear so dark that new shooters look over the top of the lenses rather than through it.

Brass catcher at 0:17 

nice set of brass catchers on her

I wasn't going to post, but what the hell-

I've lived in a half dozen states,  been to 3 times as many ranges and have never seen mandatory brass catchers.  While we need to be courteous to others, be responsible stewards and foster new shooters into the sport, some of this stuff is just getting way too politically correct for me.

What are we going to complain about next, it's too hot, we need fans .....it's too far to walk out to the target, we need auto returns.......it's too bright, we need more shade.....it's too loud, well I would agree with needing a suppressor, but you get the point.

A lot of this stuff sounds like my 6 year old daughter, but even she is harder than that and knows to expect brass from a gun!

All the analogies already posted I agree with; if you don't like sand, don't go to the beach, if you don't like hay, get off the farmers daughter and if you don't like brass don't go to the range.

Bottom line- brass catchers are nice, but not needed. Be courteous to your fellow shooters and keep the mandatory items to true safety concerns.

+1

If you're too sensitive to brass hitting you occasionally, then don't go to the damn range.

reminds me of the thing a lot of surfers have about doing sharp turns in proximity to each other so that it throws a big bucket of spray on other people. in some states/countries it's grounds to get a smashed windshield or fistfight. come on guys, you know everyone out here is wet already right?

Flying brass is like going to the beach and getting sand up your shorts. Sometimes it rubs you the wrong way and sometimes it even hurts. But then, you shake it off and keep going.

No, flying brass is like people at the beach kicking sand at you.  It's not inherent in the venue.

one time at the silhouette range a 22lr brass flew behind the tongue of my shoe burning a nice dime size circle on my ankle. know what i did?..... wore long pants the next time.

we can all agree to disagree.  Some are offended and some aren't which is why I choose to use one.

Doesn't really matter to me if I personally get hit by brass.

I believe that we as shooters should police our own ranks.

If we write to the City and County about the unsafe condition and they close the range, then what? Wait for C&C to build booths or barriers? Let us say we write to C&C and they do nothing, and someone gets hurt. They will get sued for operating with an identified unsafe condition and shut down the range.

Safety is the major factor in all firearms related training or recreational activities. We should remind shooters to stay behind the yellow line for safety, not just because someone will yell at you. Watch the new shooters on how they operate their rifles and pistols and let them know the posted procedures for the range and instruct on shooter ettiquette. Police up your brass and trash. .

I personally bring extra eye protection, earplugs, hats, and a extra long sleeve shirt for people I train or even strangers that are new shooters that have obvious deficiencies or cleavage.

OK.  I believe we are on the same page.  I do not use brass catchers for my semi auto handguns, but do so for my rifles.  I do not think they should be required and yes on the occasions that I have forgotten the brass catcher I've set my range bag up so that it blocked or deflected the brass so as not to eject on others. 

With this said I do not think it's an unsafe condition.  In fact it's probably the least of the unsafe conditions associated with shooting firearms when you look at potential hearing loss and cross contamination of breathing/ingesting the contaminants in the air and on your hands.

.........and although not a RSO I have said things to them when I felt certain shooters were unsafe.