just a thought.  it seems to me, only rich folks have electric cars.  maybe not just the rich, but well-off folks.  but Hawaii gives all kinds of benefits to electric car owners, e.g. reserved parking with free charging stations, etc.

so, does that mean there's special tax benefits and treatments for rich folks only, and us po' folks pay for their benefits?

everytime i see those charging stations in front of Home Depot, etc, it just irks me.

just sayin'

Im poor and getting an electric car soon....

the plus side is, I wont need to pay Tax to the State for the Fuel.

The state and city perks will be repeal in June of 2020.

Alternate energy vehicles, as well as other alternate energy measures as a whole like PV (photo-voltaic solar panels for homes), cost what they cost.  If everyone had electric cars only, the prices would be in line with internal combustion engines, and there would be charging stations at every-other space to charge your car's batteries.

Until then, accommodations and "perks" are intended to incentivize people to switch to electric vehicles. Hawaii has a goal of reducing our dependence on oil imports as close to zero as we can. That includes electricity generation which is needed to recharge electric vehicles.  The federal and state governments were giving tax incentives to offset the extra cost of electric vehicles so the sticker price is closer to a comparable gas vehicle.  Once a make/model meets a certain number of units sold, the incentive goes away.

If you support the efforts to try and improve our CO2/climate change impact on the environment, then the cost to incentivize alternate energy source use is insignificant. If you don't care about that, then not being crushed by gas prices in the islands every time a crisis causes close to $5/gallon prices at the pump might persuade you to drive either an electric or hybrid vehicle.

I bought my daughter a new Prius almost 7 years ago just before gas prices spiked again.  Luckily, we were car shopping before the spike. When we picked hers up at the dealer, the salesman said all Prius models were sold out in the week after we paid for hers.  When gas prices are high, it doesn't take long before the electric/hybrid car pays its sticker premium through savings in gas.  When gas prices are low, you might break even about 6-8 years after purchase.  She finished paying off the loan when she graduated college, and she's loved her car.  It has not only hybrid gas/battery mode, it also has an EV (Electric Vehicle) mode.  If the battery is charged enough, and you keep the speed below 20-30 MPH, you can drive in EV mode just like an all-electric car.

Everything in Hawaii is expensive.  Alternate energy cars are no exception.  I don't think only "well-off" residents benefit from alternate energy technology -- unless you're thinking about Tesla.  That's a whole other conversation that irks me! They are the Solyndra of electric vehicle companies.

 

I don't like electric cars, no sound.

if I were to have an alternate energy car, it would run on nitro methane, or at least alcohol   

a used Nissan Leaf is around $9k

a used Nissan Leaf is around $9k

Brand New Leaf 2017 was  $13,000 (including ALL incentives.)

Electricity is free at the company , so driving to and from work is all FREE, never have to pay gas taxes to Hawaii.

Electricity is free at the company , so driving to and from work is all FREE, never have to pay gas taxes to Hawaii.

....  And that's why they want to tax you by the mile now.....   

Brand New Leaf 2017 was  $13,000 (including ALL incentives.)

 

The only electric car I would consider is a Tesla.   I'm not rich, so that's pretty much out of the question... 

....  And that's why they want to tax you by the mile now.....

Thats what the second spare speedometer is for.    dummy   

Electricity is free at the company.

somebody is paying for that electricity.  usually the unwitting, unsuspecting masses.

a form of transfer payments.

i'm thinking used EV's are probably in need of a $10K battery replacement?  just like regular cars, when the cost for repairs is high, sell it.

yeah, alright, i'm been flamed n toasted.

Electricity is free at the company , so driving to and from work is all FREE, never have to pay gas taxes to Hawaii.

Does your company provide charging stations, or do you have to plug your own charger into a normal outlet there?

somebody is paying for that electricity.  usually the unwitting, unsuspecting masses.

a form of transfer payments.

yeah, alright, i'm been flamed n toasted.

PV panels at home so either way either at work or home all the electricity is FREE.
BTW , HECO offers a second electric meter for EV cars and is billed 11-15 cents kw/h ; as compared to residents home meters @ 35 cent kw/h

Does your company provide charging stations, or do you have to plug your own charger into a normal outlet there?

normal outlet

normal outlet

Curious.  The building I worked in downtown added charging stations in a few parking garage spaces.

I will park at someones house and extension cord the it to the wall.  They have PV panels too.

i'm thinking used EV's are probably in need of a $10K battery replacement?  just like regular cars, when the cost for repairs is high, sell it.

Looking for a nice used EV , and yes a new Batt will cost at least $5000.

There's not enough lithium in the world to make enough electric cars for everyone, never mind all the other needs of an industrial civilization. Plus all the other rare earth elements and assorted inputs of scarciity. Electric cars are just another form of greenwashing, where government hands out subsidies for technology that makes politicians look good without confronting the unpopular lifestyle downgrades that are necessary to make a more sustainable world. Elon Musk is a welfare queen. Without massive subsidies Tesla would run itself into the ground along with all his other projects.