Keystone pipeline update. (Read 3314 times)

DonRow

Keystone pipeline update.
« on: March 09, 2012, 10:03:44 PM »

clshade

Re: Keystone pipeline update.
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2012, 10:44:33 PM »
The whole thing is fishy.

Republicans are trying to leverage it as a job creation and a step towards less energy dependence. Bad Obama!

Democrats are playing up environmental hazards. Good Obama!

Both are playing to their base and neither are addressing reality.

Reality is that we already get shale oil piped in from Canada and those pipes are not at full capacity nor are the refineries in the midwest that handles it. The proposed pipeline is to get the oil down to someone else's constituents down by the Gulf so they can toot their own horn about economic recovery after the gulf spill. It would certainly create a few jobs during construction but nowhere, and I mean nowhere, near enough to have dragged this into the national spotlight the way it has been. The oil could be trucked down to those refineries to create more jobs for a longer period of time if that was the goal.

Reality is that our cars are dumping far, and I mean far, more pollutants into the water and air than the proposed pipeline would. As are our oil and coal fired power plants. Democrats? No comment? Right... they don't really want to address any real issues. Reality is that importing more shale oil would have zero effect on the price of gas in the US despite what Republicans are saying.

Way to make a huge political lightning rod of a mountain out of a mole hill.  :thumbsup: 

Build it or don't. Won't make much difference except to the refineries in the midwest that lose business, the ones in the gulf states that get it instead and to a couple thousand guys along the way who get a year or 2 of work out of it. Brilliant. Was it really worth all the fuss?

Must be an election year.

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Re: Keystone pipeline update.
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 12:20:04 AM »
Obama and his cronies want to control everything.  They want the price of Oil high so they can manipulate the market.  Figure this one out. 
He banned drilling in the Gulf.  Then gave $2B to a South American country to do oil exploration in the Gulf for Oil...!?!

He is trying to make us out to be sheep.

Did you watch the video tapes of his college years? Scary.

The whole Obama Drama is Fishy to me!  Watch out he may take us out next.  He has no laws and executes US Citizens willingly

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clshade

Re: Keystone pipeline update.
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2012, 12:55:40 AM »
:D Nice to know that the liberals aren't the only ones who make tasty coo-aid.

SpeedTek - I mean no disrespect at all, but it is hilarious to me that  you sound *exactly* like the liberals during the Bush administration. And I mean exactly. To the word. Except they said "Bush" instead of "Obama." And the bit about the Gulf, of course.

But mind the details for a good argument. The Fed blocked further drilling in the Gulf temporarily during and after the spill. Obama said 7 years at first but the ban on deep water drilling was lifted Oct 2010. Drilling in the shallower water has also been reinstated. Permits for new wells take longer to get due to increased safety requirements but otherwise it is open season once again.

As for the $2B loan to Brazil agreed to in 2009... you might enjoy reading some relatively cool-aid free stuff about that (PolitiFact).

A loan is not a gift, by the way. The entity giving the loan expects to make a profit.

Agree with it or not, does it make more sense now?
« Last Edit: March 10, 2012, 01:00:41 AM by clshade »