that can't be real

Well, then, I guess it's not!   

Comey is a Cop, so we should expect another Cop to believe him no matter what.   

Just what official duty did ever have as a "cop"?

He was just another slimey political lawyer.

He was never a "cop".

Just what official duty did ever have as a "cop"?

He was just another slimey political lawyer.

He was never a "cop".

I was under the impression FBI agents had law enforcement powers.  My mistake, I guess.

18 U.S. Code § 3052 - Powers of Federal Bureau of Investigation

The Director, Associate Director, Assistant to the Director, Assistant Directors, inspectors, and agents of the
Federal Bureau of Investigation of the Department of Justice may carry firearms, serve warrants and subpoenas
issued under the authority of the United States and make arrests without warrant for any offense against the
United States committed in their presence, or for any felony cognizable under the laws of the United States if they
have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing such felony.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 817; Jan. 10, 1951, ch. 1221, § 1, 64 Stat. 1239.)

EEF, do you still feel that Comey has more credibility than Trump? It seems that now that the memo has been released, Comey could now be in big trouble.

Well Trump has very very little credibility so yes Comey has more, even if the memo suggests wrongdoing.

I was under the impression FBI agents had law enforcement powers.  My mistake, I guess.

Having some paper "powers" does not make him a cop.  He was NEVER an agent.

Any more that the leftists here criticizing the military have any military experience from reading Rolling Stoned and Mother James.

Both those instances of "wrong doing" are in no way at all related to anything having to do with any kind of "Russian collusion" and the Trump campaign.

Plus I noticed that you haven't provided us with the sources yet for your earlier assertion. Please, let us see the evidence! We can handle it.
Please provide links to the hard evidence, i.e. actual evidence (audio/video of the actual events, sworn affidavits, testimony under oath, or even an interview with someone who claims to have witnessed the events, etc.) rather than pure speculation based upon hearsay "leaks" by "anonymous sources", to the two above claims.

Sorry, but here is what appears to be the original story on the matter. It was reported by various news sources (including Fox news).
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/politics/trump-mueller-special-counsel-russia.html

As for the investigation, the FBI was investigating whether a Russian banker funded money through the NRA to the Trump candidacy. That seems to be enough reason to investigate the Trump campaign.
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-investigation-russia-nra-help-798438

This whole thing is very complicated and probably tainted with politics but it does seem like there is reason to look into Trump.

Did anyone see that Trump suggested it was treason to not clap for his State of the Union speech?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/05/politics/trump-speech-treason/index.html

"They were like death and un-American. Un-American. Somebody said, 'treasonous.' I mean, Yeah, I guess why not? Can we call that treason? Why not? I mean they certainly didn't seem to love our country that much."

Now I get that this might fall under usual Trump speech where he says stupid stuff he doesn't really mean but I think at the very least this should make any 1st amendment supporters nervous.

Did anyone see that Trump suggested it was treason to not clap for his State of the Union speech?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/05/politics/trump-speech-treason/index.html

"They were like death and un-American. Un-American. Somebody said, 'treasonous.' I mean, Yeah, I guess why not? Can we call that treason? Why not? I mean they certainly didn't seem to love our country that much."

Now I get that this might fall under usual Trump speech where he says stupid stuff he doesn't really mean but I think at the very least this should make any 1st amendment supporters nervous.

Yeah, he has that kind of power to have brown shirts come down and silence any naysayers........    ahh Com'on ...    He also ran on 2A, for crissake!  You think a hitler would want poens armed, and then attempt to silence them?

Yeah, he has that kind of power to have brown shirts come down and silence any naysayers........    ahh Com'on ...    He also ran on 2A, for crissake!  You think a hitler would want poens armed, and then attempt to silence them?

Trump used to be a Democrat. He could change position at a drop of a hat if it suits him. Watching him at the immigration meeting between the parties was like watching a tennis match. Basically, it all depends on who is the last person in the room after a policy meeting and it's usually Miller and Kelly these days now that everyone else has been fired. Give it a year and it could be advisers with more moderate views, especially after the midterm elections.

Trump reminds me of another despot (but not Hitler). http://www.disappearingman.com/communism/men-wouldnt-stop-clapping/

Trump used to be a Democrat. He could change position at a drop of a hat if it suits him. Watching him at the immigration meeting between the parties was like watching a tennis match. Basically, it all depends on who is the last person in the room after a policy meeting and it's usually Miller and Kelly these days now that everyone else has been fired. Give it a year and it could be advisers with more moderate views, especially after the midterm elections.

Trump reminds me of another despot (but not Hitler). http://www.disappearingman.com/communism/men-wouldnt-stop-clapping/

He's the president, but still doesn't hold that kind of power. 

Yeah, he has that kind of power to have brown shirts come down and silence any naysayers........    ahh Com'on ...    He also ran on 2A, for crissake!  You think a hitler would want poens armed, and then attempt to silence them?

I am still waiting for some good Pro 2 A bills to pass. Nationwide CCW reciprocity for starters. Trump has gone kinda silent on gun rights after being elected. Not saying it was all a lie or anything but I am skeptical until I see him take a step on the issue.

But if we are to go down the Hitler comparison, then I am sure Trump doesn't mind his supporters being armed. The SS started as volunteers providing security for the Nazi party.

But no, I am not trying to compare Trump to Hitler. I am saying that I am not sure how much he respects the 1st amendment. This isn't the first statement he has made like this though, so I have to ask, are we seeing a pattern?


The inner conspiracy theory voice would say:
You are correct, he doesn't hold that kind of power... yet.

I am still waiting for some good Pro 2 A bills to pass. Nationwide CCW reciprocity for starters. Trump has gone kinda silent on gun rights after being elected. Not saying it was all a lie or anything but I am skeptical until I see him take a step on the issue.

But if we are to go down the Hitler comparison, then I am sure Trump doesn't mind his supporters being armed. The SS started as volunteers providing security for the Nazi party.

But no, I am not trying to compare Trump to Hitler. I am saying that I am not sure how much he respects the 1st amendment. This isn't the first statement he has made like this though, so I have to ask, are we seeing a pattern?


The inner conspiracy theory voice would say:
You are correct, he doesn't hold that kind of power... yet.

Well, The problem with 2A is ALL AMERICANS have the right to be armed.....   Left, Right, Center......   So....

Yes, i too am disappointed that no pro 2A anything has passed, I agree on that point. On the other side of the coin, no federal Anti 2A bills have passed through.   

Well, The problem with 2A is ALL AMERICANS have the right to be armed.....   Left, Right, Center......   So....

Yes, i too am disappointed that no pro 2A anything has passed, I agree on that point. On the other side of the coin, no federal Anti 2A bills have passed through.

There appeared to be some momentum building for CCW reciprocity, that is until Las Vegas became a killing field.  Difficult time to be pushing for more freedom when people are asking for ways to stop the next such massacre.  And the nut job in Texas shooting up the church didn't help the cause, even though the civilians who stopped him did to a lesser degree.

If a Mandalay Bay guest with a concealed firearm had been able to stop the shooting, at least long enough for people to take cover, the conversation would be less about gun control & more about arming good guys.

There appeared to be some momentum building for CCW reciprocity, that is until Las Vegas became a killing field.  Difficult time to be pushing for more freedom when people are asking for ways to stop the next such massacre.  And the nut job in Texas shooting up the church didn't help the cause, even though the civilians who stopped him did to a lesser degree.

If a Mandalay Bay guest with a concealed firearm had been able to stop the shooting, at least long enough for people to take cover, the conversation would be less about gun control & more about arming good guys.

That is one thing that really is pissing me off about BOTH sides.  They are IGNORING the real problems.  No one is going after big pharma, no one is looking there, head in the sand....   NO ONE. 

Seems like everyone is content on blaming or supporting one side of gun control or 2A, no one is interested in finding what the real problem is.  JMHO

That is one thing that really is pissing me off about BOTH sides.  They are IGNORING the real problems.  No one is going after big pharma, no one is looking there, head in the sand....   NO ONE. 

Seems like everyone is content on blaming or supporting one side of gun control or 2A, no one is interested in finding what the real problem is.  JMHO

Defining and solving seemingly unsolvable problems is hard, like identifying violent individuals and preventing them from killing. 

It's so much easier to push an agenda.

The pro-gun side is easy:  we can't stop crazies and evil, so let me choose how to defend myself.  Unless I do something bad, leave me alone.

The gun control side can't accept that as a solution, so they try to control the behavior of everyone hoping to catch the few bad apples.

It's simple, really.  Getting past this would be, too, if everyone agreed it's an individual's responsibility to protect themselves, not the government's.

Did anyone see that Trump suggested it was treason to not clap for his State of the Union speech?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/05/politics/trump-speech-treason/index.html

"They were like death and un-American. Un-American. Somebody said, 'treasonous.' I mean, Yeah, I guess why not? Can we call that treason? Why not? I mean they certainly didn't seem to love our country that much."

Now I get that this might fall under usual Trump speech where he says stupid stuff he doesn't really mean but I think at the very least this should make any 1st amendment supporters nervous.

He was quoting someone else for the treasonous part. I took it as sarcasm, personally. I think he meant it that way. JMHO

Sorry, but here is what appears to be the original story on the matter. It was reported by various news sources (including Fox news).
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/politics/trump-mueller-special-counsel-russia.html

As for the investigation, the FBI was investigating whether a Russian banker funded money through the NRA to the Trump candidacy. That seems to be enough reason to investigate the Trump campaign.
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-investigation-russia-nra-help-798438

This whole thing is very complicated and probably tainted with politics but it does seem like there is reason to look into Trump.

You didn't provide any evidence for your claim that "Trump was going to fire Mueller but changed his mind". That is what I asked you for, not crap from the NY Times and Newsweek about the overarching topic.

And this whole thing isn't very complicated and totally tainted with politics so it does seem like there multiple obvious reasons to look into Clinton's criminal activities.

I imagine that Trump thinks himself as a war general like Ike or Patton. I've been watching Nixon documentaries and Trump is half the man that Nixon was. I honestly believe that.

I imagine that Trump thinks himself as a war general like Ike or Patton. I've been watching Nixon documentaries and Trump is half the man that Nixon was. I honestly believe that.

Yet the biggest comparison that one can make is Nixon got caught red handed in the Watergate scandal. And Trump has an even bigger and worse Watergate type scandal fronted on him and his election team. 

Not defending Trump nor Nixon. To me they both have their good and bad points. 

Trump used to be a Democrat. He could change position at a drop of a hat if it suits him. Watching him at the immigration meeting between the parties was like watching a tennis match. Basically, it all depends on who is the last person in the room after a policy meeting and it's usually Miller and Kelly these days now that everyone else has been fired. Give it a year and it could be advisers with more moderate views, especially after the midterm elections.

Trump reminds me of another despot (but not Hitler). http://www.disappearingman.com/communism/men-wouldnt-stop-clapping/

Well said.

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