I can only face one more idiocy from the tyrants today. But just so you all know what they're coming after... I wonder if the flash suppressor ban would be invalid due to misspelling the word? "Hey, I ain't got no "suppresser", whatever the f*ck that is."

SB2265 requires re-registration of all firearms every five years, and BANS:

  (9)  Bump stocks, gat cranks, or any devices that can allow a person to manipulate the trigger mechanism of a firearm more rapidly than the person could without the device;

  (10) Firearm trigger mechanisms that have been replaced or modified to have a lighter trigger-pull than the trigger mechanism installed in the firearm by the manufacturer;

  (11)  Flash suppressers or any devices that reduce the visible signature of a firearm's discharge; and

  (12)  Any type of firearm modification that significantly increases the amount of time that a firearm may be continuously operated before the firearm overheats."

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/SB2265_.pdf

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2265

SB2265     

Measure Title:   RELATING TO FIREARMS.
Report Title:   Firearms; Registration; Renewal; Modification; Restriction
Description:   Requires firearm registrations to be renewed every five years. Restricts possession, transfer, and acquisition of bump stocks, gat cranks, lighter trigger-pull mechanisms, flash suppressors, and overheat reduction modifications.
Companion:   
Package:   None
Current Referral:   PSM, JDC
Introducer(s):   GREEN, Espero, Galuteria, Shimabukuro

Sort by Date       Status Text
1/19/2018   S   Introduced.
1/22/2018   S   Passed First Reading.
1/22/2018   S   Referred to PSM, JDC.

macsak started a thread on this while I was writing this one:

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=30117.0

macsak started a thread on this while I was writing this one:

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=30117.0

trying to merge it, but it's not working right
I am going to close mine, because yours is more accurate

trying to merge it, but it's not working right
I am going to close mine, because yours is more accurate

i think we need to start hitting these bills hard and let the legislature know what we think

the easiest way to contact our so-called "representatives"
sens@capitol.hawaii.gov
rep@capitol.hawaii.gov

i think we need to start hitting these bills hard and let the legislature know what we think

the easiest way to contact our so-called "representatives"
sens@capitol.hawaii.gov
rep@capitol.hawaii.gov

or (mahalo to punaperson)

senbaker@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senchang@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
sendelacruz@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senenglish@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senespero@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
sengabbard@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
sengaluteria@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
sengreen@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senharimoto@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senihara@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
seninouye@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senkahele@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senkeithagaran@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senkidani@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senkim@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senkouchi@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
sennishihara@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senrhoads@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senriviere@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senruderman@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senshimabukuro@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
sentaniguchi@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senthielen@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
sentokuda@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
senwakai@Capitol.hawaii.gov,




repaquino@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repbelatti@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repbrower@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repcachola@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repchoy@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repcreagan@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repcullen@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repdecoite@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repevans@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repfukumoto@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repgates@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
rephar@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
rephashem@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repholt@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repichiyama@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
reping@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repito@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repjohanson@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repkeohokalole@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repkobayashi@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repkong@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
replearmont@Capitol.hawaii.gov
repclee@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
replopresti@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
replowen@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repluke@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repmatsumoto@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repmcdermott@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repmckelvey@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repmizuno@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repmorikawa@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repnakamura@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repnakashima@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repnishimoto@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repohno@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
reponishi@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repquinlan@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repsaiki@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repsanbuenaventura@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repsay@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repsouki@Capitol.hawaii.gov, 
reptakayama@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
reptakumi@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repthielen@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
reptodd@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
reptokioka@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
reptupola@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repward@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repwoodson@Capitol.hawaii.gov, 
repyamane@Capitol.hawaii.gov,
repyamashita@Capitol.hawaii.gov

Email sent to Espero and my rep.  I also called Esperos office and got the "dont bother me, submit testimony if it makes it to he floor".

Email sent to Espero and my rep.  I also called Esperos office and got the "dont bother me, submit testimony if it makes it to he floor".

I bet Espero would be willing to talk and deal if we offered to accept this bill in exchange for sound suppressor legalization. /sarc

This bill is 

From how it's written, I would just have to swap my M&P Sport II lower to my Aero lower then it's all G.  Lower sales will increase if this passes.

And muzzle breaks all G also. 

From how it's written, I would just have to swap my M&P Sport II lower to my Aero lower then it's all G.  Lower sales will increase if this passes.

And muzzle breaks all G also.

there's not much that is all G about this bill...

there's not much that is all G about this bill...

Used the wrong term. More like finding  loop holes in the new law is what I meant.

Used the wrong term. More like finding  loop holes in the new law is what I meant.

respectfully, we shouldn't be looking for loopholes, we should be looking for ways to testify against this bill

for example, it's going to be tough to testify against trigger mods
you can say that it makes it smoother and more precise, and "they" are going to say it makes it more deadly
you can compare it to aftermarket car parts i guess, but "they" may say it will be faster, so that's more deadly

We'll need to fill the room with live testimony if goes up in committee and fill the gallery if it goes to the floor on this one.

Senator Espero,

                Good morning.  I hope you and your family are well.  I have two points I would like to address with you during this legislative session.

I see that the legislature is having bills proposed with a lot of firearm restrictions which is fine if that is how Hawaii wants to run their state as I am just a temporary resident being a Federal Soldier. However, I am not seeing anything to fix Hawaii’s broken firearm registration system.  I am required to register my car, bicycle, pet, and firearms with the State. Guess which one is the only one I cannot un-register when I leave?  Firearms.  I am due to retire and leave this wonderful island in May 2018 but I have no way of unregistering my firearms when I leave even though I will have signed Federal orders for me leaving here.  I am going to be forced to bring a lawsuit to have them removed, as I am never coming back here again, because not every state has the same laws as Hawaii.

I am moving to Georgia.  Personal sales between individuals are not tracked in anyway in that state.  However, if a crime were to happen some years later and one of my previous weapons was used then I could become a suspect.  This was an oversight on the legislature’s part and it needs to be fixed as Federal Service members are all subjected to this.  Once I leave Hawaii will no longer have any jurisdiction over me or me firearms.

Please include a provision in one of the bills that gets voted on this term to solve this problem.  Thanks

P.S. Because I am retiring I have found out that Governor Ige no longer signs retirement certificates for Service members. Does the state hold us in such low regard now for our Federal Service within the islands as to not do this anymore?  Every other state does including some foreign countries.

An edited version went to the entire list of Senators and Representatives.

(Rhetorical question) Other than pissing off current gun owners, how is reregistering every five years gonna make society safer? I thought that's what rapback was supposed to be for or have they given up on that yet?

Can you imagine the lines at the window?

(Rhetorical question) Other than pissing off current gun owners, how is reregistering every five years gonna make society safer? I thought that's what rapback was supposed to be for or have they given up on that yet?

It's all part of the democratic plan to make gun ownership so "humbug" that no one will want to own guns.

For me it backfires on them.  I hate standing in line for 1 hour for 1 gun.  So I buy more than 1 to make my trip worth it. 

Can you imagine the lines at the window?

I wrote about that to my rep.  I told him that when there is only 2 people in line, I had to wait almost 1 hour.  So imagine if there were more.

Why is it only progressive states that are in violation of Federal law?

Illegal drugs
Immigration
and Firearms databases


18 U.S. Code § 926 - Rules and regulations

(a) The Attorney General may prescribe only such rules and regulations as are necessary to carry out the provisions of this chapter, including—
(1) regulations providing that a person licensed under this chapter, when dealing with another person so licensed, shall provide such other licensed person a certified copy of this license;
(2) regulations providing for the issuance, at a reasonable cost, to a person licensed under this chapter, of certified copies of his license for use as provided under regulations issued under paragraph (1) of this subsection; and
(3) regulations providing for effective receipt and secure storage of firearms relinquished by or seized from persons described in subsection D8 or G8 of section 922.


No such rule or regulation prescribed after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any STATE or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or dispositions be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary’s [1] authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.


(b) The Attorney General shall give not less than ninety days public notice, and shall afford interested parties opportunity for hearing, before prescribing such rules and regulations.
(c) The Attorney General shall not prescribe rules or regulations that require purchasers of black powder under the exemption provided in section 845(a)(5) of this title to complete affidavits or forms attesting to that exemption.